Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

I'll be installing a replacement 3-handle Price-Pfister tub and shower
faucet set shortly. It appears I'll have to install the set upside
down, because the inlet pipes are above the existing faucet, and
rearranging them is not an option. By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.

I seem to recall that for at least SOME brands of shower/tub faucets,
the hot and cold stems are made different. Anyone know if P-P is one
that uses different stems for hot & cold? I suppose if they are
different I can remove them and switch them in the inverted faucet
set. But if they're the same, I'd rather not switch them.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

On May 14, 12:23*pm, wrote:
I'll be installing a replacement 3-handle Price-Pfister tub and shower
faucet set shortly. *It appears I'll have to install the set upside
down, because the inlet pipes are above the existing faucet, and
rearranging them is not an option. *By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.

I seem to recall that for at least SOME brands of shower/tub faucets,
the hot and cold stems are made different. *Anyone know if P-P is one
that uses different stems for hot & cold? *I suppose if they are
different I can remove them and switch them in the inverted faucet
set. *But if they're the same, I'd rather not switch them.

IMHO, installing a shower/bath faucet with the hot and cold reversed
is just plain dangerous - and dumb.

Think babies, the elderly and drunks.

While I have less of a problem with a drunk getting scalded, I really
do care about babies and the elderly.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

wrote in message
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I'll be installing a replacement 3-handle Price-Pfister tub and shower
faucet set shortly. It appears I'll have to install the set upside
down, because the inlet pipes are above the existing faucet, and
rearranging them is not an option. By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.

I seem to recall that for at least SOME brands of shower/tub faucets,
the hot and cold stems are made different. Anyone know if P-P is one
that uses different stems for hot & cold? I suppose if they are
different I can remove them and switch them in the inverted faucet
set. But if they're the same, I'd rather not switch them.



What did the manufacturer have to say about this when you spoke with them on
the phone?

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

wrote in message
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I'll be installing a replacement 3-handle Price-Pfister tub and shower
faucet set shortly. It appears I'll have to install the set upside
down, because the inlet pipes are above the existing faucet, and
rearranging them is not an option. By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.

I seem to recall that for at least SOME brands of shower/tub faucets,
the hot and cold stems are made different. Anyone know if P-P is one
that uses different stems for hot & cold? I suppose if they are
different I can remove them and switch them in the inverted faucet
set. But if they're the same, I'd rather not switch them.


*I thought the three handle sets weren't available anymore because the
plumbing code required the one handled type.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

"John Grabowski" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I'll be installing a replacement 3-handle Price-Pfister tub and shower
faucet set shortly. It appears I'll have to install the set upside
down, because the inlet pipes are above the existing faucet, and
rearranging them is not an option. By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.

I seem to recall that for at least SOME brands of shower/tub faucets,
the hot and cold stems are made different. Anyone know if P-P is one
that uses different stems for hot & cold? I suppose if they are
different I can remove them and switch them in the inverted faucet
set. But if they're the same, I'd rather not switch them.


*I thought the three handle sets weren't available anymore because the
plumbing code required the one handled type.


On my Kohler faucets, they use two different valves. One closes in the
clockwise direction (HOT), the other closes in the opposite direction
(COLD). I imagine most faucet stems are also designed this way. I don't
think most people expect the two valves to both open by turning in the same
direction.

Smarty

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

DerbyDad03 wrote:

By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.
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IMHO, installing a shower/bath faucet with the hot and cold reversed
is just plain dangerous - and dumb.

Think babies, the elderly and drunks.

While I have less of a problem with a drunk getting scalded, I really
do care about babies and the elderly.
================================================== ==========
He didn't say that the cold water will be on the left and the hot water on the
right, he said that the hot and cold valve stems would be reversed, and was
wondering if that mattered.

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Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

"Ron in NY" wrote in message
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DerbyDad03 wrote:

By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.
================================================== =========
IMHO, installing a shower/bath faucet with the hot and cold reversed
is just plain dangerous - and dumb.

Think babies, the elderly and drunks.

While I have less of a problem with a drunk getting scalded, I really
do care about babies and the elderly.
================================================== ==========
He didn't say that the cold water will be on the left and the hot water on
the
right, he said that the hot and cold valve stems would be reversed, and
was
wondering if that mattered.

================================================== ======

Failed reading comprehension did you? Read the first sentence.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

In article ,
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

"Ron in NY" wrote in message
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DerbyDad03 wrote:

By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.
================================================== =========
IMHO, installing a shower/bath faucet with the hot and cold reversed
is just plain dangerous - and dumb.

Think babies, the elderly and drunks.

While I have less of a problem with a drunk getting scalded, I really
do care about babies and the elderly.
================================================== ==========
He didn't say that the cold water will be on the left and the hot water on
the
right, he said that the hot and cold valve stems would be reversed, and
was
wondering if that mattered.

================================================== ======

Failed reading comprehension did you? Read the first sentence.

I actually agree with Ron's interpretation of the OP's writing. The
first sentence is decidedly ambiguous, but I've been leaning all along
towards interpreting as Ron did -- that is, the left valve *says* "C"
but it dispenses hot water.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

"Smitty Two" wrote in message

I actually agree with Ron's interpretation of the OP's writing. The
first sentence is decidedly ambiguous, but I've been leaning all along
towards interpreting as Ron did -- that is, the left valve *says* "C"
but it dispenses hot water.

I guess that is a possibility. Clarification would help.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

On May 14, 9:23*am, wrote:
I'll be installing a replacement 3-handle Price-Pfister tub and shower
faucet set shortly. *It appears I'll have to install the set upside
down, because the inlet pipes are above the existing faucet, and
rearranging them is not an option. *By installing it upside down, the
cold valve will be on the left and the hot on the right.

I seem to recall that for at least SOME brands of shower/tub faucets,
the hot and cold stems are made different. *Anyone know if P-P is one
that uses different stems for hot & cold? *I suppose if they are
different I can remove them and switch them in the inverted faucet
set. *But if they're the same, I'd rather not switch them.

If you mean that turning the right hand valve will give hot water,
don't do it!!

I did that once on my basement laundry tub and figured "I'll be the
only one using it, I'll remember" No, I didn't remember. After
almost burning myself twice I rearranged the pipes. Hell of a looking
mess now with a bix "X" of pipes above the tub. Habit will get you
every time.

Harry K

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

Just to clarify my original post:

I won't be moving the H & C copper supply pipes so installing the new
faucet set upside down will not change the sides the Hot water is on.
It will still be on the left side, but the hot water will go through
the part of the faucet which was designed to handle the Cold water IF
the set was installed in the conventional manner.

The valves in the new set both open in the same direction.

Aside from some brands' H & C shower stems opening in opposide
directions, is there any other difference between the H & C stems on a
given faucet set?

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

why not change the handles to correctly reflect what is coming
out? Or can you get a single handle system?
Lou



I do intend to change the handles, or at least the "H" and "C"
labels. All I was trying to find out is if it would be necessary to
switch the stems, too. But since the consensus of the replies is that
the only possible difference in the two stems would be the thread
direction, there is apparently no need to switch the stems.

I didn't want to use a single handle system because I already had a
new, old stock 3 handle P-Pf faucet set which I bought several years
ago and never got around to using.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

wrote in message
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why not change the handles to correctly reflect what is coming
out? Or can you get a single handle system?
Lou



I do intend to change the handles, or at least the "H" and "C"
labels. All I was trying to find out is if it would be necessary to
switch the stems, too. But since the consensus of the replies is that
the only possible difference in the two stems would be the thread
direction, there is apparently no need to switch the stems.

I didn't want to use a single handle system because I already had a
new, old stock 3 handle P-Pf faucet set which I bought several years
ago and never got around to using.



It's good to double check the answers to questions like these, just in case
the manufacturer was wrong with THEIR answer.

But still, I'm interested in what information you got when you called
Price-Pfister on Thursday May 14th or Friday May 15th.

What did they say in response to your question?

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

What did they say in response to your question?- Hide quoted text -




I never tried calling the manufacturer. I'm sure the "new" faucet
set I'm installing is old and obsolete so they probably couldn't tell
me anything about. I decided to rely on the collective wisdom of this
newsgroup's readers for advice.

Hot & Cold Shower Faucet Stems Different?
 

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I never tried calling the manufacturer. I'm sure the "new" faucet
set I'm installing is old and obsolete so they probably couldn't tell
me anything about.


Why are you sure it's obsolete? How old is it?