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Jean May 9th 09 05:58 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An installer came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that eliminates the need for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and couldn't find anything about this "new r22". Has anyone read anything about it?

Jean


The Daring Dufas[_7_] May 9th 09 06:41 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
Jean wrote:
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An installer came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that eliminates the need for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and couldn't find anything about this "new r22". Has anyone read anything about it?

Jean


Look for R417a a direct drop in replacement for R22.
There is also R407C, R421a, HC-a22 and a few more.
I haven't used any alternative to R22 yet so I can't
comment on it but I have used R416a in place of R12
and it's doing a good job. I haven't had to install
or service any Puron systems yet but may have to soon.

TDD

Ralph Mowery May 9th 09 07:49 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 

"Jean" wrote in message
net...
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An installer
came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that eliminates the need
for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and couldn't find anything about
this "new r22". Has anyone read anything about it?

Jean


Maybe this is what you are looking for.

http://www.icorinternational.com/nu22b.html

Suspose to replace the r22,407 and 417.

I don't know anything about it, but some bulliten boads do not seem to
recommend it.



Ralph Mowery May 9th 09 08:06 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 

"Jean" wrote in message
net...
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An installer
came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that eliminates the need
for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and couldn't find anything about
this "new r22". Has anyone read anything about it?

Jean

.


I have not priced it lately, but just how much could the more expensive r401
be ? There are only several pounds in a system.

I did replace my system about 3 years ago and went with the r-22. My
thinking is that it operates at lower pressure and has been around long
enough to have the bugs worked out of the system. I also had most of a
bottle of that gas left from years ago.
If I need to add some, I can do that .



Tony Hwang May 9th 09 09:18 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Jean" wrote in message
net...
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An installer
came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that eliminates the need
for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and couldn't find anything about
this "new r22". Has anyone read anything about it?

Jean

.


I have not priced it lately, but just how much could the more expensive r401
be ? There are only several pounds in a system.

I did replace my system about 3 years ago and went with the r-22. My
thinking is that it operates at lower pressure and has been around long
enough to have the bugs worked out of the system. I also had most of a
bottle of that gas left from years ago.
If I need to add some, I can do that .


Hi,
If you don't care about environment.

HeyBub[_3_] May 9th 09 09:50 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
Tony Hwang wrote:
Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Jean" wrote in message
net...
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An
installer came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that
eliminates the need for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and
couldn't find anything about this "new r22". Has anyone read
anything about it? Jean

.


I have not priced it lately, but just how much could the more
expensive r401 be ? There are only several pounds in a system.

I did replace my system about 3 years ago and went with the r-22. My
thinking is that it operates at lower pressure and has been around
long enough to have the bugs worked out of the system. I also had
most of a bottle of that gas left from years ago.
If I need to add some, I can do that .


Hi,
If you don't care about environment.


Freon was banned so that penguins wouldn't get sunburned. Then the planet
started heating up.

How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's
incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our
precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly
without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.



Nate Nagel May 9th 09 09:50 PM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
Tony Hwang wrote:
Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Jean" wrote in message
net...
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump A/C. An
installer came by today and said that there is a "new r22" that
eliminates the need for the expensive puron (r410). I googled and
couldn't find anything about this "new r22". Has anyone read anything
about it?

Jean

.


I have not priced it lately, but just how much could the more
expensive r401 be ? There are only several pounds in a system.

I did replace my system about 3 years ago and went with the r-22. My
thinking is that it operates at lower pressure and has been around
long enough to have the bugs worked out of the system. I also had
most of a bottle of that gas left from years ago.
If I need to add some, I can do that .


Hi,
If you don't care about environment.


The environment cares not whether the R-22 is sealed in a container or
inside an A/C system. The only time it becomes an environmental issue
is when you release it into the atmosphere.

(oh noes! my car has R-12 in it!)

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

Stormin Mormon May 10th 09 02:36 AM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
Supposedly they are phasing out R-22. I'm going to be sad to
see it go. Good stuff, does a nice job. As to the other
blends and such. Time will tell, if any of them work, and if
they will be on the market for a while.

Puron is a brand name for 410a, but you likely knew that
already.

One company I work for, they used 416a. It's a bit cheaper
than 409a. I may try it for my next jug o juice. 409a works
nicely.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in
message ...
Jean wrote:
I'm in the market to replace my split-system heat pump
A/C. An installer came by today and said that there is a
"new r22" that eliminates the need for the expensive puron
(r410). I googled and couldn't find anything about this
"new r22". Has anyone read anything about it?

Jean


Look for R417a a direct drop in replacement for R22.
There is also R407C, R421a, HC-a22 and a few more.
I haven't used any alternative to R22 yet so I can't
comment on it but I have used R416a in place of R12
and it's doing a good job. I haven't had to install
or service any Puron systems yet but may have to soon.

TDD



The Daring Dufas[_7_] May 10th 09 02:51 AM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
Stormin Mormon wrote:
Supposedly they are phasing out R-22. I'm going to be sad to
see it go. Good stuff, does a nice job. As to the other
blends and such. Time will tell, if any of them work, and if
they will be on the market for a while.

Puron is a brand name for 410a, but you likely knew that
already.

One company I work for, they used 416a. It's a bit cheaper
than 409a. I may try it for my next jug o juice. 409a works
nicely.


I have used 409a in the past but found 416a to
work better for me. I can use it in an old car
or old hermetic because there is no need to
change the oil and it runs a lower head pressure
which is less of a strain on an old system. I
have it running a walk in cooler at a pizza place
and the system runs in the hottest weather without
straining or overheating.

TDD

Rick Samuel[_2_] May 10th 09 04:21 AM

new a/c refrigerant?
 
isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our
precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly
without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.


precious bodily fluids Great line from Dr Strangelove, outstanding movie.



olddog May 10th 09 07:05 AM

new a/c refrigerant?
 

"Rick Samuel" wrote in message
...
isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our
precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly
without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.


precious bodily fluids Great line from Dr Strangelove, outstanding
movie.


stay away from my bodily fluids....ya pinko commie.

http://lunar-circuitry.net/wordpress...ing-hayden.jpg

my favorite is Scott in that flix

http://www.emulsioncompulsion.com/wp...b__430x284.jpg

:-)

od

od

..


olddog May 10th 09 07:07 AM

new a/c refrigerant?
 

"olddog" wrote in message
...

"Rick Samuel" wrote in message
...
isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our
precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual.
Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie
works.


precious bodily fluids Great line from Dr Strangelove, outstanding
movie.


stay away from my bodily fluids....ya pinko commie.

http://lunar-circuitry.net/wordpress...ing-hayden.jpg

my favorite is Scott in that flix

http://www.emulsioncompulsion.com/wp...b__430x284.jpg

:-)

od


broke link fix

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/p...rangelove1.jpg



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