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Nelly Wensdow May 3rd 09 05:21 PM

Lawn mower question
 
I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA



Tony Hwang May 3rd 09 05:52 PM

Lawn mower question
 
Nelly Wensdow wrote:
I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Hi,
Fuel delivery problem? First I'd try with gas tank cap off.

[email protected] May 3rd 09 06:09 PM

Lawn mower question
 
On May 3, 12:52 pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
Nelly Wensdow wrote:
I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Hi,
Fuel delivery problem? First I'd try with gas tank cap off.


Yes, fuel system is the likely place to start. Dirt, gumming up of
the carb, sticking float, etc are possibilities.

Ashton Crusher[_2_] May 3rd 09 06:23 PM

Lawn mower question
 
On Sun, 3 May 2009 11:21:26 -0500, "Nelly Wensdow"
wrote:

I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Does it have the carb with the round fuel bowl that is held on with a
single bolt at the bottom? I had a sears with that carb that did
exactly what you described and it turned out to be a bunch of water in
the fuel bowl. Took the bowl off, emptied it and let some gas run out
and put it back together. It ran fine and then started doing it again
and I repeated the draining and it's been fine ever since. The first
time I drained it you could see the water 'bubbles' in the gas in the
fuel bowl.

ransley May 3rd 09 06:40 PM

Lawn mower question
 
On May 3, 11:21*am, "Nelly Wensdow" wrote:
I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. *What could be causing this? TIA


Could be the govenor is sticking if it happens within a few seconds,
its probably air vane , check linkage to see if you can move it and
free it up moving it back and forth.

E Z Peaces May 3rd 09 07:19 PM

Lawn mower question
 
Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2009 11:21:26 -0500, "Nelly Wensdow"
wrote:

I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Does it have the carb with the round fuel bowl that is held on with a
single bolt at the bottom? I had a sears with that carb that did
exactly what you described and it turned out to be a bunch of water in
the fuel bowl. Took the bowl off, emptied it and let some gas run out
and put it back together. It ran fine and then started doing it again
and I repeated the draining and it's been fine ever since. The first
time I drained it you could see the water 'bubbles' in the gas in the
fuel bowl.


Amen! You can dump what's in the bowl and see if the float turns the
gas on and off. I'd also unscrew the jets to see if they were clean.

If there's no fuel shutoff, you may be able to clamp the gas line. If
the bowl is held up by a screw in the middle, be careful of the gasket.
Be careful of the gasket at the rim of the bowl, too.

DanG May 3rd 09 07:53 PM

Lawn mower question
 
It would need to be pretty old to use an air vane
governor/rev-limiter. Haven't seen one for years.

I suspect the problem will be fuel system related. If you do have
it starting well and running some, I will guess the flywheel key
is ok. I would pull the carb bowl, but you might just give it a
healthy dose of injector cleaner and let it run. The new alcohol
blend fuel is extremely hard on small engines.

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______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"ransley" wrote in message
...
On May 3, 11:21 am, "Nelly Wensdow" wrote:
I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air
filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first
mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then
slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Could be the govenor is sticking if it happens within a few
seconds,
its probably air vane , check linkage to see if you can move it
and
free it up moving it back and forth.



ransley May 4th 09 05:32 AM

Lawn mower question
 
On May 3, 1:53*pm, "DanG" wrote:
It would need to be pretty old to use an air vane
governor/rev-limiter. *Haven't seen one for years.

I suspect the problem will be fuel system related. *If you do have
it starting well and running some, I will guess the flywheel key
is ok. *I would pull the carb bowl, but you might just give it a
healthy dose of injector cleaner and let it run. *The new alcohol
blend fuel is extremely hard on small engines.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG *(remove the sevens)


"ransley" wrote in message

...
On May 3, 11:21 am, "Nelly Wensdow" wrote:

I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air
filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first
mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then
slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Could be the govenor is sticking if it happens within a few
seconds,
its probably air vane , check linkage to see if you can move it
and
free it up moving it back and forth.


How do newer govenors work.

DanG May 4th 09 07:42 AM

Lawn mower question
 
A gear inside the crankcase.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"ransley" wrote in message
...
On May 3, 1:53 pm, "DanG" wrote:
It would need to be pretty old to use an air vane
governor/rev-limiter. Haven't seen one for years.

I suspect the problem will be fuel system related. If you do
have
it starting well and running some, I will guess the flywheel key
is ok. I would pull the carb bowl, but you might just give it a
healthy dose of injector cleaner and let it run. The new alcohol
blend fuel is extremely hard on small engines.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)


"ransley" wrote in message

...
On May 3, 11:21 am, "Nelly Wensdow" wrote:

I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air
filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first
mowing, but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then
slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Could be the govenor is sticking if it happens within a few
seconds,
its probably air vane , check linkage to see if you can move it
and
free it up moving it back and forth.


How do newer govenors work.



Ulysses May 4th 09 04:26 PM

Lawn mower question
 

"Ashton Crusher" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 May 2009 11:21:26 -0500, "Nelly Wensdow"
wrote:

I have a 15-year-old Sears 4hp mower that I change the air filter, plug &
oil each spring. It started & ran fine last week for the first mowing,

but
now it acts like it's running out of gas. Runs full fast then slows way
down, back up again, etc. What could be causing this? TIA


Does it have the carb with the round fuel bowl that is held on with a
single bolt at the bottom? I had a sears with that carb that did
exactly what you described and it turned out to be a bunch of water in
the fuel bowl. Took the bowl off, emptied it and let some gas run out
and put it back together. It ran fine and then started doing it again
and I repeated the draining and it's been fine ever since. The first
time I drained it you could see the water 'bubbles' in the gas in the
fuel bowl.


And if the float is OK a couple other things to check--is the choke staying
on? Sometimes the cable will become loose and slip a little, the choke will
stay on, and it will run until it warms up. Also check the tension on the
governer spring. They can also become loose (stretched) over the years.
There should be just the slightest tension on the spring with the engine off
(assuming it's the type that I'm guessing OP has).



[email protected] May 5th 09 01:33 AM

Lawn mower question
 
On Mon, 4 May 2009 01:42:17 -0500, "DanG" wrote:

A gear inside the crankcase.

Actually, a gear driven centrifical governor (spinning weights) . If
the governor linkage from the carb connects to a lever on the side of
the crankcase, that is what you have. Most 2 stroke lawn boys used
the same type, but under the flywheel.


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