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Actually, the entire body of a smoker shows the effects of
the addiction. We can also include the entire life, habits, personality, and so on. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jim Yanik" wrote in message ... just think what the previous owners lungs were like....or their teeth. ECCCH! -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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On 21 Mar 2009 21:26:23 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:
wrote in : On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:31:07 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The coil cleaner I use on AC coils does a nice job on smokers film. Cleaning window unit coils and such, it really takes the brown film off. I bought a '65 Rambler Classic back in 1972 - the chrome on the dash looked like brass and the headliner was brown. It also had tinted windows. (It was cheap - bought it for $100). A gallon of "FANTASTIC" later the headliner was white, the chrome was silver, the seats and carpets didn't stink any more, and even the windows were clean. Gotta be REAL carefull with Fantastic on glass though!!!!! I remeber laying the fiber headliner out on the driveway, soaking it with Fantastic, and hosing it down with the garden hose about 4 times, with coffee-coloured water flowing down the driveway. just think what the previous owners lungs were like....or their teeth. ECCCH! Pipe and Cigar - mostly pipe from what I could figure out. I think he was dead when I bought the car. |
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Smarty wrote:
"Cheri" wrote in message ... "aemeijers" wrote in message ... I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I need to de-stink it. I pulled the removable seats loose and did an eyeball inspection, but found no little corpses. Not yet desperate enough to pull the carpets and interior panels. Used up my remaining quarter-bottle of Febreeze, too soon to tell if it helped. As usual with these things, smell is worst after van has been sitting closed for several hours. Smell arrived with the warm spell a couple days ago. Will it dry up faster if I leave it parked in sunshine with windows up, or windows down? And what is best product to saturate the suspect part of carpets and end of floor heater ducts with? (No stink apparent from the dash ducts, or seating surfaces, or underside of the seats I flipped over) You didn't happen to have a leaking baby bottle in it, did you? That can be ghastly. I had a mouse climb into my 6 month old Corvette during winter storage and die, leaving an incredible odor in the Spring when I came to take the car out of storage. I ultimately found only 1 way to get rid of the odor based on an excellent recommendation here on this newsgroup. The solution was to find an enzymatic odor eliminator used for carpet cleaning, made by a company I believe was called "Rug Doctor". It is an odorless, clear liquid sold alongside rug shampoo machines to remove pet odors, etc. It is sold in small reddish-orange bottles, as are the other carpet chemicals from the same company (stain remover, shampoo). It took 3 applications, but the odor is now entirely gone. My earlier attempts with Fabreeze and other fragrances made the problem much worse and should never have been used. Smarty Did you ever see the Myth Busters show where they bought a Corvette and put a dead pig in it and let it rot? It was awful. TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
Smarty wrote: "Cheri" wrote in message ... "aemeijers" wrote in message ... I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I need to de-stink it. I pulled the removable seats loose and did an eyeball inspection, but found no little corpses. Not yet desperate enough to pull the carpets and interior panels. Used up my remaining quarter-bottle of Febreeze, too soon to tell if it helped. As usual with these things, smell is worst after van has been sitting closed for several hours. Smell arrived with the warm spell a couple days ago. Will it dry up faster if I leave it parked in sunshine with windows up, or windows down? And what is best product to saturate the suspect part of carpets and end of floor heater ducts with? (No stink apparent from the dash ducts, or seating surfaces, or underside of the seats I flipped over) You didn't happen to have a leaking baby bottle in it, did you? That can be ghastly. I had a mouse climb into my 6 month old Corvette during winter storage and die, leaving an incredible odor in the Spring when I came to take the car out of storage. I ultimately found only 1 way to get rid of the odor based on an excellent recommendation here on this newsgroup. The solution was to find an enzymatic odor eliminator used for carpet cleaning, made by a company I believe was called "Rug Doctor". It is an odorless, clear liquid sold alongside rug shampoo machines to remove pet odors, etc. It is sold in small reddish-orange bottles, as are the other carpet chemicals from the same company (stain remover, shampoo). It took 3 applications, but the odor is now entirely gone. My earlier attempts with Fabreeze and other fragrances made the problem much worse and should never have been used. Smarty Did you ever see the Myth Busters show where they bought a Corvette and put a dead pig in it and let it rot? It was awful. TDD That's just evil, probably the juices soaked into the fiberglass. that stuff doesn't just wipe clean like steel. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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aemeijers posted for all of us...
I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I Did you have the AC on? It could be mold/fungus in it. -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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In article , =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= wrote:
aemeijers posted for all of us... I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I Did you have the AC on? It could be mold/fungus in it. Mold and fungus don't smell like "something died". |
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Doug Miller posted for all of us...
In article , =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= wrote: aemeijers posted for all of us... I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I Did you have the AC on? It could be mold/fungus in it. Mold and fungus don't smell like "something died". Explain to me the smell of something dead. What does mold and fungus smell like? Explain in detail. Explain to me the color red. So if we are not there my guess is as good as yours. -- Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service. |
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On Mar 19, 11:25*pm, aemeijers wrote:
I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I mine too. it was my hopes and dreams. sigh. |
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On Mar 19, 11:25 pm, aemeijers wrote: I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I mine too. it was my hopes and dreams. sigh. Well, that was 3 or 4 cars and 20 years ago for me. I really don't even need more than one seat any more... :^( -- aem sends... |
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In article , =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= wrote:
Doug Miller posted for all of us... In article , =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= wrote: aemeijers posted for all of us... I'm sure this has come up on here before, but I can't remember what the best recommended product was. I think something died in my van, and I Did you have the AC on? It could be mold/fungus in it. Mold and fungus don't smell like "something died". Explain to me the smell of something dead. Easy to demonstrate: put a piece of raw meat in a closed container (so it won't dry out), and leave it at room temperature for a couple of weeks. Then give it a sniff. What does mold and fungus smell like? Explain in detail. Easy to demonstrate: turn over a rotting log. Explain to me the color red. Irrelevant. So if we are not there my guess is as good as yours. No, not really. Dead animals, and molds/fungi, have distinctly different odors. The impossibility of *explaining* the difference in no way alters the *fact* of the difference. |
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If I leave it parked outside for a month and drive the spare car, will the problem eventually solve itself? First thing to do is DRY the car's insides. You might, for example, turn the car heater all the way up and let is idle in the sun. OR you can run an extension cord and operate an electric heater in the car (taking proper precautions against the heater setting the car on fire. Once it's dry you can "detail" the car and vacuum it as well . If something literally died, completely drying it out should stop the smell. -- aem sends... |
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Dude, where are you reading this? On one of those Usenet-scraping
websites or something? I posted the message you are replying to at least a year ago... -- aem sends... On 1/25/2011 6:27 PM, John Gilmer wrote: If I leave it parked outside for a month and drive the spare car, will the problem eventually solve itself? First thing to do is DRY the car's insides. You might, for example, turn the car heater all the way up and let is idle in the sun. OR you can run an extension cord and operate an electric heater in the car (taking proper precautions against the heater setting the car on fire. Once it's dry you can "detail" the car and vacuum it as well . If something literally died, completely drying it out should stop the smell. -- aem sends... |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:27:42 -0500, "John Gilmer"
wrote: If I leave it parked outside for a month and drive the spare car, will the problem eventually solve itself? First thing to do is DRY the car's insides. You might, for example, turn the car heater all the way up and let is idle in the sun. OR you can run an extension cord and operate an electric heater in the car (taking proper precautions against the heater setting the car on fire. Once it's dry you can "detail" the car and vacuum it as well . If something literally died, completely drying it out should stop the smell. -- aem sends... an "ozonator" really helps too. Or a bag of charcoal left in the car out in the sun with the windows closed. |
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aemeijers wrote in
: .. -- aem sends... If you're going to top-post, please delete your sig's "-- " sequence. -- Tegger |
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On 1/25/2011 8:52 PM, Tegger wrote:
wrote in : . -- aem sends... If you're going to top-post, please delete your sig's "-- " sequence. Sorry about that- I just got off a session of e-mail answering, where top-post IS the norm, and my fingers forgot to switch back. -- aem sends... |
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aemeijers wrote in
: On 1/25/2011 8:52 PM, Tegger wrote: wrote in : . -- aem sends... If you're going to top-post, please delete your sig's "-- " sequence. Sorry about that- I just got off a session of e-mail answering, where top-post IS the norm, and my fingers forgot to switch back. Yeah, email is top-post only. I get a lot of business email, and not one single person bottom-posts OR intersperses. I've often wondered why Microsoft email products make interspersing so damnably difficult. -- Tegger |
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On 01/25/2011 09:09 PM, Tegger wrote:
wrote in : On 1/25/2011 8:52 PM, Tegger wrote: wrote in : . -- aem sends... If you're going to top-post, please delete your sig's "-- " sequence. Sorry about that- I just got off a session of e-mail answering, where top-post IS the norm, and my fingers forgot to switch back. Yeah, email is top-post only. I get a lot of business email, and not one single person bottom-posts OR intersperses. I've often wondered why Microsoft email products make interspersing so damnably difficult. you could have just said "I've often wondered why Microsoft products are so damnably difficult." I love how every new version of Office seems to have a completely different menu/button structure for the various programs... same is true for AutoCAD which isn't even a Microsoft product, but at least the good old command line still works the same in AutoCAD (mostly... the text editing is still more cumbersome than I remember...) nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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Nate Nagel wrote in news:ihnvvj08q0
@news3.newsguy.com: you could have just said "I've often wondered why Microsoft products are so damnably difficult." I love how every new version of Office seems to have a completely different menu/button structure for the various programs... One of our suppliers' employees is getting an intermittent bounce when attempting to send to one of our employees. The bounce message doesn't give any information other than, basically "username does not exist". It does not say which server is reporting that error, which is what I want to know. So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. Why does Outlook do this? -- Tegger |
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On 01/25/2011 09:49 PM, Tegger wrote:
Nate wrote in news:ihnvvj08q0 @news3.newsguy.com: you could have just said "I've often wondered why Microsoft products are so damnably difficult." I love how every new version of Office seems to have a completely different menu/button structure for the various programs... One of our suppliers' employees is getting an intermittent bounce when attempting to send to one of our employees. The bounce message doesn't give any information other than, basically "username does not exist". It does not say which server is reporting that error, which is what I want to know. So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. Why does Outlook do this? Probably for the same reason it defaults to top posting and HTML. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On 1/25/2011 11:13 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:27:18 -0500, aemeijers wrote: Dude, where are you reading this? On one of those Usenet-scraping websites or something? I posted the message you are replying to at least a year ago... So, how'd you get rid of the smell? It's been awhile- IIRC, time, Febreeze, some slow-evaporating waxy stuff in a tub that reminded me of 1960s mens room air freshener, and a lot of parking in asphalt-ocean parking lots with the windows open in the sunny summertime. For awhile, if the weather was damp, and you let it sit a day, you could catch a whiff as you first got in, but even that finally went away. -- aem sends... |
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:27:18 -0500, aemeijers wrote:
Dude, where are you reading this? On one of those Usenet-scraping websites or something? I posted the message you are replying to at least a year ago... So, how'd you get rid of the smell? |
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On Jan 25, 9:49*pm, Tegger wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote in news:ihnvvj08q0 @news3.newsguy.com: you could have just said "I've often wondered why Microsoft products are so damnably difficult." I love how every new version of Office seems to have a completely different menu/button structure for the various programs... One of our suppliers' employees is getting an intermittent bounce when attempting to send to one of our employees. The bounce message doesn't give any information other than, basically "username does not exist". It does not say which server is reporting that error, which is what I want to know. So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. Why does Outlook do this? Because they feel the user shouldn't be bothered by niggling little details. The headers are unsightly, and PC users should not be exposed to them. The average PC user might be panicked by the sight of a mail header. We'd have stampedes in every office in America. Cindy Hamilton |
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Tegger wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote in news:ihnvvj08q0 @news3.newsguy.com: you could have just said "I've often wondered why Microsoft products are so damnably difficult." I love how every new version of Office seems to have a completely different menu/button structure for the various programs... One of our suppliers' employees is getting an intermittent bounce when attempting to send to one of our employees. The bounce message doesn't give any information other than, basically "username does not exist". It does not say which server is reporting that error, which is what I want to know. So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. How do you plan on "finding out what you want" if the data is not stored like you claim it isn't? -- Tegger |
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Tegger wrote in
: So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. OK, I futzed around for a bit this morning and came up with....nothing. The computer in question has Office 2003. Microsoft's online help was useless. Google turned up numerous ways of viewing headers, but none of them matched up with any of the menu dialog boxes I saw, and I could not find any menus at all where I had the option of getting at the headers. This is stupid. -- Tegger |
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On 1/26/11 5:41 PM, in article ,
"Tegger" wrote: Tegger wrote in : So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. OK, I futzed around for a bit this morning and came up with....nothing. The computer in question has Office 2003. Microsoft's online help was useless. Google turned up numerous ways of viewing headers, but none of them matched up with any of the menu dialog boxes I saw, and I could not find any menus at all where I had the option of getting at the headers. This is stupid. If you can find the actual message file(s), try dumping it out with a fully functional editor (I like emacs). |
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Tegger wrote:
Tegger wrote in : So, I investigate, and discover that supplier is using Outlook. Then I discover (online) that Outlook REMOVES headers from messages when it stores the messages! The guy I'm dealing with is clueless with computers, and his IT department is unresponsive. I have to go there tomorrow anyway, and the guy is willing to let me futz around on his computer until I find what I want. OK, I futzed around for a bit this morning and came up with....nothing. The computer in question has Office 2003. Microsoft's online help was useless. Google turned up numerous ways of viewing headers, but none of them matched up with any of the menu dialog boxes I saw, and I could not find any menus at all where I had the option of getting at the headers. This is stupid. I disliked MS readers too. My younger staff set me up with ThunderBird email/news. It's a free software program. Click [V]iew, [H]eaders. Toggle normal or full display. Even I can manage that. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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"E. Meyer" wrote in
: If you can find the actual message file(s), try dumping it out with a fully functional editor (I like emacs). Outlook REMOVES the headers from the message. The headers are stored SEPARATELY, but linked to the appropriate message somehow. It is that separate store which I cannot find. Outlook Express, Thunderbird and other email clients I have used do NOT split their messgaes up in the manner of Outlook. -- Tegger |
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On 1/27/11 6:28 AM, in article ,
"Tegger" wrote: "E. Meyer" wrote in : If you can find the actual message file(s), try dumping it out with a fully functional editor (I like emacs). Outlook REMOVES the headers from the message. The headers are stored SEPARATELY, but linked to the appropriate message somehow. It is that separate store which I cannot find. Outlook Express, Thunderbird and other email clients I have used do NOT split their messgaes up in the manner of Outlook. I confess I never use Outlook. Started to set it up once, but it was so cryptic and dysfunctional I just stick with Outlook Express when I have to use PC's. Moved to a Mac in '02 and have never looked back. This page ( http://www.slipstick.com/mail1/viewheaders.htm ) & the additional links in it appear to have some reasonable looking ideas to get the headers. I don't have an Outlook set up right now to try any of them. Looks like a big mess. I guess its one of those things that depends on how badly you need it. |
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