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Robert11[_2_] March 14th 09 10:00 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob



Big_Jake March 14th 09 10:29 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Mar 14, 5:00*pm, "Robert11" wrote:
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive *to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. * Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


I would strongly suggest some kind of mechanical fastener. Any wood
attached to the foundation should be pressure treated, and the
chemicals used to treat the lumber will resist the action of the
glues.

Just my $.02

JK

TM March 14th 09 10:37 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these
types at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


PL400 with mechanical fasteners. I swear by it.
http://www.stickwithpl.com/Products/...PLProductID=12



Paul Oman March 15th 09 12:23 AM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
Big_Jake wrote:
On Mar 14, 5:00 pm, "Robert11" wrote:

Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


I would strongly suggest some kind of mechanical fastener. Any wood
attached to the foundation should be pressure treated, and the
chemicals used to treat the lumber will resist the action of the
glues.

Just my $.02

JK

------

thickened epoxy - but then again, I'm in the epoxy business! - paul

Red Green March 15th 09 01:00 AM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
"Robert11" wrote in
:

Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are
there much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these
types at all ?

Thanks,
Bob



Guess it depends on what the wood is being glued to the cement for and
what is the impact if it should fail at some point in time. PL
construction adhesive has a lot of holding power to where you often have
to destroy things to break the bond once it cures.

Another really good brand of adhesives is Sika.

http://www.sikaconstruction.com

and click on FIND A SIKA PRODUCT then Products by Application. One of the
categories is Multi-Purpose Structural Adhesives which you specifically
meantioned. I've seen some Sika products at HD.


Phisherman[_2_] March 15th 09 02:35 AM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:00:23 -0400, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


More details. Liquid Nails works well for base molding, comes in a
caulk-type cartridge.

Worn out Retread March 15th 09 02:07 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 


"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


In 1963 I put two coats of Lepages Contact Cement on both the sole plate of
the wall and along the line where I wanted to attach the wall. After all
this time and countless encounters with water, the sole plate is still
anchored firmly to the concrete floor.


Red March 15th 09 03:24 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Mar 14, 5:00*pm, "Robert11" wrote:


Gorilla glue ?

Gorilla glue is WAY overrated, especially when used with PT wood.
Many of my projects have come apart after a few months.

Red

Joe March 15th 09 04:42 PM

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On Mar 14, 5:29*pm, Big_Jake wrote:
On Mar 14, 5:00*pm, "Robert11" wrote:





Hello,


Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive *to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. * Indoors usage.


Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?


Gorilla glue ?


Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?


Thanks,
Bob


I would strongly suggest *some kind of mechanical fastener. *Any wood
attached to the foundation should be pressure treated, and the
chemicals used to treat the lumber will resist the action of the
glues.

Just my $.02

JK


Agree with the pressure treated problem/warning. The green treated
wood does not fare well with epoxy in my experience. However, I do
have set of cellar steps in a so-so environment that were assembled
from 'the other stuff', whatever that is, which are still sound a
decade later. So I guess the best plan would to be use a dry type
treated lumber and epoxy for maximum adhesion. Tapcons or RedHeads
sure wouldn't hurt.

Joe

Phisherman[_2_] March 15th 09 04:55 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:24:24 -0700 (PDT), Red
wrote:

On Mar 14, 5:00*pm, "Robert11" wrote:


Gorilla glue ?

Gorilla glue is WAY overrated, especially when used with PT wood.
Many of my projects have come apart after a few months.

Red



I have not tried these types of glue, due to the cost and short shelf
life. However it claims to be waterproof and foams up to fill cracks,
if that is important. But, I have found the tradiitonal waterproof
wood glues (Titebond or Elmers) to hold up well over 15 years. The
problem with PT wood is that it is usually very wet when purchased,
and if dried it may twist, wane, cup, split and bow if not properly
weighed down or clamped. Most glues need a little preparation work,
ie, a clean dry surface.

[email protected] March 15th 09 05:40 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:00:23 -0400, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob

http://www.selleys.com.au/Adhesive-S...e/default.aspx

[email protected] March 15th 09 05:53 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:00:23 -0400, "Robert11"
wrote:

Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


Try this selector. It includes many manufacturers products and goes
into detail on the selection criteria.

http://www.adhesives.org/TechnologySelector.aspx

aemeijers March 15th 09 06:01 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
Robert11 wrote:
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob



My curiosity is killing me. Just what are you needing to mount, anyway?
I usually just hang wood straps from the sill plate, and mount to that.

--
aem sends...

Red March 15th 09 07:50 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
On Mar 15, 11:55*am, Phisherman wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:24:24 -0700 (PDT), Red
wrote:

On Mar 14, 5:00*pm, "Robert11" wrote:



Gorilla glue is WAY overrated, especially when used with PT wood.
Many of my projects have come apart after a few months.


Red


I have not tried these types of glue, due to the cost and short shelf
life. *However it claims to be waterproof and foams up to fill cracks,
if that is important. *But, I have found the tradiitonal waterproof
wood glues (Titebond or Elmers) to hold up well over 15 years. *The
problem with PT wood is that it is usually very wet when purchased,
and if dried it may twist, wane, cup, split and bow if not properly
weighed down or clamped. *Most glues need a little preparation work,
ie, a clean dry surface.


Per instructions with the gorilla glue, you moisten the area to be
glued prior to applying the adhesive (apparently what causes the
foaming) so a dry surface is not what you want. And while the glue
itself may possibly be waterproof, the adhesion to the wood is very
poor IMO. I believe Titebond & Elmers to be far superior to Gorilla
and a lot less expensive.

Red

Robert11[_2_] March 16th 09 11:27 AM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 
Hi,

Thanks for help.

Want to get an additional clamp to rigidize a water pipe.

Only place to pick up the other end is off of the concrete foundation.

Bob
----------
"aemeijers" wrote in message
...
Robert11 wrote:
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these
types at all ?

Thanks,
Bob


My curiosity is killing me. Just what are you needing to mount, anyway? I
usually just hang wood straps from the sill plate, and mount to that.

--
aem sends...




MLD March 16th 09 06:58 PM

Adhesive Suggestions Requested
 

"Robert11" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Would appreciate any suggestions as to the "best" adhesive to use to
fasten a piece of wood to the concrete foundation. Indoors usage.

Just the regular Devcon epoxy as sold in the hardware store, or are there
much better ones available these days ?

Gorilla glue ?

Or some, what I think are termed, Structual Adhesives ?
If so, Brand and Type, please, as I'm really not familiar with these types
at all ?

Thanks,
Bob

Other than the glues and epoxy that everyone mentioned, I have had great
success using PhenoSeal. It's an adheadive caulk that seems to work on
anything and everything.
MLD



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