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Davej February 12th 09 01:53 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?

Eric in North TX February 12th 09 02:06 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
On Feb 12, 7:53*am, Davej wrote:
I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?


How about using an abrasive blade?

Davej February 12th 09 04:40 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
On Feb 12, 8:06 am, Eric in North TX wrote:
On Feb 12, 7:53 am, Davej wrote:

I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?


How about using an abrasive blade?


They are extremely slow cutting. I don't know if you could perhaps
switch back and forth?

evodawg[_2_] February 12th 09 05:45 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
Davej wrote:

I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?

I usually cut concrete about an inch deep, hopefully rebar is deeper. Then
use a jack hammer to remove it. Cutting the concrete an inch deep just
keeps it from cracking beyond those cut lines. Sort of like a expansion
joint.
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Edwin Pawlowski February 12th 09 08:43 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 

"Davej" wrote in message
...
I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?


They use diamond blades. If you have a lot to do, it may be close in price
(and much easier) to hire a pro. You can get a good ballpark price on the
phone.



Oren[_2_] February 12th 09 09:39 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:45:35 -0800, evodawg
wrote:

Davej wrote:

I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?


I usually cut concrete about an inch deep, hopefully rebar is deeper. Then
use a jack hammer to remove it. Cutting the concrete an inch deep just
keeps it from cracking beyond those cut lines. Sort of like a expansion
joint.


This is way we cut mine in a bath remodel. Used diamond blade for the
"relief cut (?)" , the a jack hammer.

Check to determine if the foundation has post-tension cables. You do
NOT want to cut one of the cables.

BobK207 February 13th 09 03:58 AM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
On Feb 12, 5:53*am, Davej wrote:
I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?



Good quality diamond blades and core bits will cut through rebar with
little more effort than concrete alone.
Water cooled is the way the pros do it.

The concrete cutting contractor that I've been using for nearly 20
years has cut through all sorts of messed up RC for me.

When Marty cut mounting holes for me in a chuck of concrete we hit a
#9 bar that was misplaced.
The 3" core bit bisected the bar such that I have (somewhere in my
"that's cool" stuff) a chuck of #9 bar about 2 3/4" long with the
inside diameter of the core bit curvature on both ends of the
chunk.

The floor of my lab was 24" thick with 2 mats of #6's at 12" o/c both
ways. To install a huge piece of machinery we needed to cut an access
hole in the floor. It was cut by another contractor using a 60"
diameter saw.......rebar didnt even slow it down.

Hilti water cooled core bits (vacuum base drill system) can core
concrete with rebar as fast as you can advance the bit (within
reason) .....12" hole in a minute or two.

What are you trying to do? demo? remodel? slab crack control?

cheers
Bob


DanG February 13th 09 12:21 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
Cuts right on through. I'm sure it eats more diamonds, but there
are few choices. I prefer wet cutting whenever possible.

We just did some cutting that had 3x3x1/4 angle iron suspending
concrete over a tunnel space. One of my guys cut right on through
the angle iron. I did tell them to raise the blade whenever they
were getting that kind of quantity of sparks for the rest of the
cuts.

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"Davej" wrote in message
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I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly
ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?




Davej February 13th 09 02:39 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
On Feb 12, 9:58 pm, BobK207 wrote:
On Feb 12, 5:53 am, Davej wrote:

I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?


Good quality diamond blades and core bits will cut through rebar with
little more effort than concrete alone.
Water cooled is the way the pros do it.
[...]
What are you trying to do? demo? remodel? slab crack control?


All I want to do is install a sump system around the perimeter of a
50yo basement.


BobK207 February 13th 09 04:54 PM

Cutting concrete floor?
 
On Feb 13, 6:39*am, Davej wrote:
On Feb 12, 9:58 pm, BobK207 wrote:

On Feb 12, 5:53 am, Davej wrote:


I've heard that hitting rebar with a diamond blade can quickly ruin it
-- so what do the experts do?


Good quality diamond blades and core bits will cut through rebar with
little more effort than concrete alone.
Water cooled is the way the pros do it.
[...]
What are you trying to do? *demo? *remodel? slab crack control?


All I want to do is install a sump system around the perimeter of a
50yo basement.


I would use a water cooled saw but I have access to a MK Diamond Walk-
Behind Concrete Saw.

If I didn't I would consider renting one or hiring a commercial
concrete demo guy. If the basement is more or less "clear" he could
zip around the edges of the slab in no time .... cutting all the way
through, which would make your job eaiser.
No mess, no dust, no noise.

If he didn't have a helper you could work with him shop vac'ing up the
cooling water to control the mess.
Set up a sump pump in a watertight trash can & you'll way to handle
the water when the shop vac gets full.

The other posts about a partial cut to prevent random cracking & a
jack hammer are good ideas but much slower and more work.

cheers
Bob


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