Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

You're draining it out right? Then what could the problem be? It probably
wouldn't have made any difference anyway. Just refill with what you'd
rather use and go.

s


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I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

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I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

I agree with everyone else--I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't even
worry too much if he'd put 2-Stroke oil in the gas--I've even seen it
recommended for boaters etc, at the end of the season, to use up 50:1 in a
four-stroke engine that will otherwise just go bad and have to be dumped. I
wouldn't use mixed gas in a fuel injection engine though.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

On Jan 7, 10:43*pm, wrote:
I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

It will be ok it was a good quality oil, when I was 7 or 8 I used
cooking oil, mower lasted another 10 years. You drained it dont worry.
Running some oil is the gas woth hurt either if its like 200-1.
Actualy I start equipment sitting a long time on a cup of 2 stroke
gas, when it takes 20-30 seconds to hear it get oil and quiet down you
know its being ruined.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:20:23 -0800, "Ulysses"
wrote:


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I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

I agree with everyone else--I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't even
worry too much if he'd put 2-Stroke oil in the gas--I've even seen it
recommended for boaters etc, at the end of the season, to use up 50:1 in a
four-stroke engine that will otherwise just go bad and have to be dumped. I
wouldn't use mixed gas in a fuel injection engine though.

No problem with fuel injection - it's just the catalytic convertor and
O2 sensor issues.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

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I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use.

Never mind the snow thrower (it'll be fine, just replace the oil), I'd
be concerned about your son: Is he "maintaining" a car yet? It's when
he fills the power steering fluid reservoir with motor oil that you'll
have a REAL problem. Windshield washer fluid in the radiator is
probably bad, too. At least, tell him to RTFM before performing ANY
future service.

Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he didn't start it up
(as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!).

There IS hope for him: At least he knew when to quit.

I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil?

Once refilled with the correct oil, it MIGHT help to run the engine long
enough to mix everything then drain it again and refill.

I really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine
health as smoothly as possible.

The engine is probably tougher than you think. It probably would have
done fine had you simply "topped-off" the sump with approved oil and
proceeded normally. As it is, you caught the mistake before the engine
was first started and have replaced the wrong oil with the right type.

My less-than-mechanically-inclined stepfather once ran a 2-cycle Lawn
Boy mower on "straight" (unmixed) gas. The engine finally ground to a
halt. The mower repair place simply filled the gas tank with properly
mixed oil, started it up and away it went. It ran perfectly for YEARS
thereafter.
--
:)
JR

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

On Jan 7, 11:43*pm, wrote:
I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

It always amazes me how people think these are living breathing
animals and that somehow simply touching it with a "wrong" substance
will cause it to get "sick" like an allergic reaction or something.

Your snowblower is an inanimate object. It has no idea your son put
the "wrong oil" in it, especially since you didn't even start the
engine afterwards. It's not "sick." It's not "hurt." The 2-stroke oil
was simply STORED in the engine for a short period of time.

Even if you had started it you wouldn't have caused any damage. 2-
cycle oil is still OIL. It's still wet and slippery. It still
lubricates, probably better than normal motor oil. The only reason you
don't want to use it is because it costs about the same per 3oz bottle
as a quart of regular motor oil.

You can even re-use the 2-stroke oil for its intended purpose. Just
put it in a well-marked container so your son doesn't use it by
mistake again.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

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On Jan 7, 11:43 pm, wrote:
I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

It always amazes me how people think these are living breathing
animals and that somehow simply touching it with a "wrong" substance
will cause it to get "sick" like an allergic reaction or something.

Your snowblower is an inanimate object. It has no idea your son put
the "wrong oil" in it, especially since you didn't even start the
engine afterwards. It's not "sick." It's not "hurt." The 2-stroke oil
was simply STORED in the engine for a short period of time.

Even if you had started it you wouldn't have caused any damage. 2-
cycle oil is still OIL. It's still wet and slippery. It still
lubricates, probably better than normal motor oil. The only reason you
don't want to use it is because it costs about the same per 3oz bottle
as a quart of regular motor oil.

You can even re-use the 2-stroke oil for its intended purpose. Just
put it in a well-marked container so your son doesn't use it by
mistake again.

Concur. Only thing I'd add to the above is after refilling with correct oil,
start her up and let it run for maybe 5 minutes till it's warm. Then drain
and discard the barely used oil (to flush out any residue)-- and refill with
fresh correct oil.

You're only out the cost of one quart and no harm to the engine. Also, sit
the young lad down, thank him for doing the maintenance but 'splain to him
about oil.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

Two cycle oil should run just fine in a four stroke. Since you've drained
it, just fill er up with your good brand of motor oil. I like Castrol, have
had good results with that. The trace of twostroke oil in your crankcase
won't hurt anything. Actually, it would have run just fine on two stroke
mixer oil.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Steve Barker" wrote in message
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You're draining it out right? Then what could the problem be? It probably
wouldn't have made any difference anyway. Just refill with what you'd
rather use and go.

s


wrote in message
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problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:55:02 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:37:17 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:20:23 -0800, "Ulysses"
wrote:


wrote in message
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I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

I agree with everyone else--I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't even
worry too much if he'd put 2-Stroke oil in the gas--I've even seen it
recommended for boaters etc, at the end of the season, to use up 50:1 in a
four-stroke engine that will otherwise just go bad and have to be dumped. I
wouldn't use mixed gas in a fuel injection engine though.

No problem with fuel injection - it's just the catalytic convertor and
O2 sensor issues.

I had an 86 Chrysler that was ingesting about a quart of oil per tank
of gas (no leaks, no smoke). The computer was simply adjusting the
burn to use it all. That works out to around 50:1, what you would be
burning in a 2 stroke outboard.
It ran great but the price of the oil was killing me. I didn't worry
that much about changing it tho. It was always fresh.

I had an 88 that did the same. The catalytic converters were too
expensive to let that go on very long (disconnect the cat and it was
spewing blue smoke big-time). It needed valve guides replaced (second
time in 160,000km) - 3.0 Mitsu****ty engine. The 2.6 usually needed
rings when it happened on them.

Two-cycle oil in four-cycle snowblower! Help ...
 

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:33:04 -0500, "Sharp Dressed Man"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Jan 7, 11:43 pm, wrote:
I have a Craftsman Snow Thrower (247.88190) and I have an unfortunate
problem. My son put replaced the oil with oil for my leaf blower. He
put four 3.2 ounce bottles of Craftsman Professional Synthetic Blend 2-
Cycle Engine Oil w/ fuel stabilizer (#71-36560) instead of the correct
4-cycle oil I normally use. Luckily he didn't mix it with gas and he
didn't start it up (as he couldn't figure out why it wouldn't show up
on the dip stick!). So at present I've got the blower propped up a bit
and I'm draining that oil out. I'm going to let it drain all night.
But are there any other precautions I should take before filling it up
with the correct oil? The amount he added (12-13 oz) just barely
showed up on the dip stick. Any advice would be much appreciated as I
really like this blower and want to nurse it back to machine health as
smoothly as possible. Thanks in advance.

It always amazes me how people think these are living breathing
animals and that somehow simply touching it with a "wrong" substance
will cause it to get "sick" like an allergic reaction or something.

Your snowblower is an inanimate object. It has no idea your son put
the "wrong oil" in it, especially since you didn't even start the
engine afterwards. It's not "sick." It's not "hurt." The 2-stroke oil
was simply STORED in the engine for a short period of time.

Even if you had started it you wouldn't have caused any damage. 2-
cycle oil is still OIL. It's still wet and slippery. It still
lubricates, probably better than normal motor oil. The only reason you
don't want to use it is because it costs about the same per 3oz bottle
as a quart of regular motor oil.

You can even re-use the 2-stroke oil for its intended purpose. Just
put it in a well-marked container so your son doesn't use it by
mistake again.

Concur. Only thing I'd add to the above is after refilling with correct oil,
start her up and let it run for maybe 5 minutes till it's warm. Then drain
and discard the barely used oil (to flush out any residue)-- and refill with
fresh correct oil.

You're only out the cost of one quart and no harm to the engine. Also, sit
the young lad down, thank him for doing the maintenance but 'splain to him
about oil.


Draining and refilling now is totally un-necessary. He was using high
end 2 stroke oil - which unless it was pre-diluted (some is - most
today is not) it would have been just fine in the crankcase. Expensive
- so I HOPE he didn't throw it out - still perfectly good to use in
the 2 stroke.
Straight grade SAE30 non detergent was the RECOMMENDED oil in a lot of
older 2 stroke engines.