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We have a yard lamp on a post in the front yard. The wife likes (me)
to put a string in lights around the pole every Christmas. Several
years ago, just as a quick and dirty solution, I cut the male plug and
about 6-8" of wire from a string of lights. I then put one of those
adapters that screw into a lamp socket and provide a couple of
outlets:

http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model...2136F3CDAE8 F

I then thread the loose ends of the plug I cut off the string through
the small drain holes in the bottom of the lamp housing and reattach
them to the light string with electrical caps.

This has worked for several years, but it's not ideal. I think I'd
like to add a permanent outlet to that lamp post. I'd appreciate
suggestions as to the best way to do it.

Here are the solutions I came up with:

1. Do just what I am doing, but use a short (6-8") extension cord with
molded plugs on each end, rather than bare wires. This is the simplest
solution, but it requires drilling a much larger hole in the lamp
housing base. It also means that either I leave the adapter in the
socket year round with the extension cord plugged in and dangling out
the bottom, which is mildly unsightly, or I have to take the housing
apart every year, which is no big deal.

2. Install a permanent outlet on the pole. I would have to take the
pole apart and make a splice, then find a receptable that I would
mount in a hole cut into the pole. This is a nicer solution, but a lot
more work. It would probably be best to put the outlet at the base of
the pole, but the pole is in the middle of a round brick planter and I
bet the base is 12-18" down. I don't think I'll be allowed to dig it
up.

So, unless someone can suggest another solution, I'll probably go with
the short extension cord and take the housing apart every year.
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We have a yard lamp on a post in the front yard. The wife likes (me)
to put a string in lights around the pole every Christmas. Several
years ago, just as a quick and dirty solution, I cut the male plug and
about 6-8" of wire from a string of lights. I then put one of those
adapters that screw into a lamp socket and provide a couple of
outlets:

http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model...2136F3CDAE8 F

I then thread the loose ends of the plug I cut off the string through
the small drain holes in the bottom of the lamp housing and reattach
them to the light string with electrical caps.

This has worked for several years, but it's not ideal. I think I'd
like to add a permanent outlet to that lamp post. I'd appreciate
suggestions as to the best way to do it.

Here are the solutions I came up with:

1. Do just what I am doing, but use a short (6-8") extension cord with
molded plugs on each end, rather than bare wires. This is the simplest
solution, but it requires drilling a much larger hole in the lamp
housing base. It also means that either I leave the adapter in the
socket year round with the extension cord plugged in and dangling out
the bottom, which is mildly unsightly, or I have to take the housing
apart every year, which is no big deal.

2. Install a permanent outlet on the pole. I would have to take the
pole apart and make a splice, then find a receptable that I would
mount in a hole cut into the pole. This is a nicer solution, but a lot
more work. It would probably be best to put the outlet at the base of
the pole, but the pole is in the middle of a round brick planter and I
bet the base is 12-18" down. I don't think I'll be allowed to dig it
up.

So, unless someone can suggest another solution, I'll probably go with
the short extension cord and take the housing apart every year.


There is a thing made, although I can't find it online. It's a short section
of typical 3" post, made to fit between the existing post and the existing
fixture. It has a built in GFCI outlet or at least a place to install one.
The other alternative is to use an "FS" box, also known as "Bell Box". Using
a hole saw, cut a 7/8 hole near the base of the post, snake a short piece of
cable up the post to where the splice is. Mount the FS box over the hole
attaching the cable to a connector through the back knockout. Screw the box
to the pole using self-drilling screws, and install a GFCI outlet with "in
use" cover


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We have a yard lamp on a post in the front yard. The wife likes (me)
to put a string in lights around the pole every Christmas. Several
years ago, just as a quick and dirty solution, I cut the male plug and
about 6-8" of wire from a string of lights. I then put one of those
adapters that screw into a lamp socket and provide a couple of
outlets:

http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model...2136F3CDAE8 F

I then thread the loose ends of the plug I cut off the string through
the small drain holes in the bottom of the lamp housing and reattach
them to the light string with electrical caps.

This has worked for several years, but it's not ideal. I think I'd
like to add a permanent outlet to that lamp post. I'd appreciate
suggestions as to the best way to do it.

Here are the solutions I came up with:

1. Do just what I am doing, but use a short (6-8") extension cord with
molded plugs on each end, rather than bare wires. This is the simplest
solution, but it requires drilling a much larger hole in the lamp
housing base. It also means that either I leave the adapter in the
socket year round with the extension cord plugged in and dangling out
the bottom, which is mildly unsightly, or I have to take the housing
apart every year, which is no big deal.

2. Install a permanent outlet on the pole. I would have to take the
pole apart and make a splice, then find a receptable that I would
mount in a hole cut into the pole. This is a nicer solution, but a lot
more work. It would probably be best to put the outlet at the base of
the pole, but the pole is in the middle of a round brick planter and I
bet the base is 12-18" down. I don't think I'll be allowed to dig it
up.

So, unless someone can suggest another solution, I'll probably go with
the short extension cord and take the housing apart every year.


There is a thing made, although I can't find it online. It's a short section
of typical 3" post, made to fit between the existing post and the existing
fixture. It has a built in GFCI outlet or at least a place to install one.
The other alternative is to use an "FS" box, also known as "Bell Box". Using
a hole saw, cut a 7/8 hole near the base of the post, snake a short piece of
cable up the post to where the splice is. Mount the FS box over the hole
attaching the cable to a connector through the back knockout. Screw the box
to the pole using self-drilling screws, and install a GFCI outlet with "in
use" cover


Bingo! We have a winner! If you can't find a box the same color as the
pole, you can scuff, degrease, and spray paint it before you install it.

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We have a yard lamp on a post in the front yard. The wife likes (me)
to put a string in lights around the pole every Christmas. Several
years ago, just as a quick and dirty solution, I cut the male plug and
about 6-8" of wire from a string of lights. I then put one of those
adapters that screw into a lamp socket and provide a couple of
outlets:

http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model...2136F3CDAE8 F

I then thread the loose ends of the plug I cut off the string through
the small drain holes in the bottom of the lamp housing and reattach
them to the light string with electrical caps.

This has worked for several years, but it's not ideal. I think I'd
like to add a permanent outlet to that lamp post. I'd appreciate
suggestions as to the best way to do it.

Here are the solutions I came up with:

1. Do just what I am doing, but use a short (6-8") extension cord with
molded plugs on each end, rather than bare wires. This is the simplest
solution, but it requires drilling a much larger hole in the lamp
housing base. It also means that either I leave the adapter in the
socket year round with the extension cord plugged in and dangling out
the bottom, which is mildly unsightly, or I have to take the housing
apart every year, which is no big deal.

2. Install a permanent outlet on the pole. I would have to take the
pole apart and make a splice, then find a receptable that I would
mount in a hole cut into the pole. This is a nicer solution, but a lot
more work. It would probably be best to put the outlet at the base of
the pole, but the pole is in the middle of a round brick planter and I
bet the base is 12-18" down. I don't think I'll be allowed to dig it
up.

So, unless someone can suggest another solution, I'll probably go with
the short extension cord and take the housing apart every year.


There is a thing made, although I can't find it online. It's a short section
of typical 3" post, made to fit between the existing post and the existing
fixture. It has a built in GFCI outlet or at least a place to install one.
The other alternative is to use an "FS" box, also known as "Bell Box". Using
a hole saw, cut a 7/8 hole near the base of the post, snake a short piece of
cable up the post to where the splice is. Mount the FS box over the hole
attaching the cable to a connector through the back knockout. Screw the box
to the pole using self-drilling screws, and install a GFCI outlet with "in
use" cover




Or install a weatherproof box on a pipe adjacent to the pole, wire it
using direct burial wiring. The GFCI outlet (if the circuit is not
already protected by one) and the weatherproof cover are a requirement.
If in doubt, hire someone to do this for you, or at least buy and read a
good book on the topic. Electrical work is not for the inexperienced,
particularly the outdoor stuff. I'm still finding and gradually
correcting hack job work that was done when the original owner finished
the basement of my house, it's amazing the place never burned down.
Backwire terminals, wires cut way too short, switches on the neutrals,
cheap junky receptacles that fall apart. I lost count of the number of
times I pulled one out of the box and wires pulled right out the back of it.
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replying to aemeijers, Pinninvest wrote:
What is the winner? I do not know how you found a solution. I have been
looking for a short post extender with the outlet included but have not found
any on-line.. I wiould appreciate any giodance you can provide. Thank you

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replying to RBM, Pinninvest wrote:
Has anyone been able to find a post extender with an opening for an outlet?

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On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 14:44:02 +0000, Pinninvest wrote:

replying to aemeijers, Pinninvest wrote:
What is the winner? I do not know how you found a solution. I have been
looking for a short post extender with the outlet included but have not found
any on-line.. I wiould appreciate any giodance you can provide. Thank you




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Here's the best I've found so far. Still hunting. Not sure if the black one
fits a 3" post. I am considering buying an post extension and hacking it to
add the outlet but that could get messy. You would think these things would be
more common.

https://www.loveitlighting.com/cgi-b...xtender-co.jpg

https://www.mrosupply.com/lighting/l...RoCBKUQAvD_BwE

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On 8/22/2019 12:44 PM, JBB wrote:
replying to Pinninvest, JBB wrote:
Here's the best I've found so far.* Still hunting.* Not sure if the
black one
fits a 3" post. I am considering buying an post extension and hacking it to
add the outlet but that could get messy. You would think these things
would be
more common.

https://www.loveitlighting.com/cgi-b...xtender-co.jpg


https://www.mrosupply.com/lighting/l...RoCBKUQAvD_BwE


The National Electrical Code requires the use of ground fault circuit
interrupter (GFCI) outlets outdoors. Does the item you are considering
from mrosupply.com contain a GFCI? The listing doesn't explicitly say
so. Don't risk electrocution!

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On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 1:39:33 PM UTC-4, Peter wrote:
On 8/22/2019 12:44 PM, JBB wrote:
replying to Pinninvest, JBB wrote:
Here's the best I've found so far.Â* Still hunting.Â* Not sure if the
black one
fits a 3" post. I am considering buying an post extension and hacking it to
add the outlet but that could get messy. You would think these things
would be
more common.

https://www.loveitlighting.com/cgi-b...xtender-co.jpg


https://www.mrosupply.com/lighting/l...RoCBKUQAvD_BwE


The National Electrical Code requires the use of ground fault circuit
interrupter (GFCI) outlets outdoors. Does the item you are considering
from mrosupply.com contain a GFCI? The listing doesn't explicitly say
so. Don't risk electrocution!

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Maybe you mean the other supplier? Mrosupply is just an empty box,
you can put what you want in it. For either, you can also put the
GFCI anywhere upstream at the house or as a breaker in the panel.

Biggest issue I see is the light would have to be on for the outlet
to be energized, but that's probably fine, unless you want to power
something that's going to be on 24/7 or something.


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On 8/22/2019 1:39 PM, Peter wrote:
On 8/22/2019 12:44 PM, JBB wrote:
replying to Pinninvest, JBB wrote:
Here's the best I've found so far.* Still hunting.* Not sure if the
black one
fits a 3" post. I am considering buying an post extension and hacking
it to
add the outlet but that could get messy. You would think these things
would be
more common.

https://www.loveitlighting.com/cgi-b...xtender-co.jpg


https://www.mrosupply.com/lighting/l...RoCBKUQAvD_BwE


The National Electrical Code requires the use of ground fault circuit
interrupter (GFCI) outlets outdoors.* Does the item you are considering
from mrosupply.com contain a GFCI?* The listing doesn't explicitly say
so.* Don't risk electrocution!

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I have 2 almost identical post lamps. I say almost because one has an
outlet/cover just under the lamp fixture, the other doesn't. My wife
uses said outlet at Christmas to put some greenery/lights around the
post. On the other one, I just added an outdoor outlet box about 6 or
so inches from the ground. It has an outlet and an in-use cover. The
whole circuit is on a GFCI breaker. I wish the one with the included
outlet was in-use, but in 10 years of Christmas, no false trips. Maybe
the light fixture just above it provides enough of an "umbrella" to stop
it from getting wet.
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