Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulation http://www.applegateinsulation.com
and estimating the job at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or
openion on this company. It looks like cellulose applied kind of like
foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

On Nov 23, 11:21*pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulationhttp://www.applegateinsulation.com
and estimating the job at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or
openion on this company. *It looks like cellulose applied kind of like
foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

No experiance but the cellulose said it has glue which I have read is
the way to go as its applied damp and doesnt settle. Is that aplied
damp. Cellulose doesnt loose R value at extreme cold like fiberglass.
But the price is alot for a small job. Open houses are done for not
much more.

Yes, that is the 'wet sprayed' cellulose. It won't settle, and it is the
best insulation for the buck. Also blocks air infiltration. And is fire
resistant.

s


"Aaron Fude" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulation http://www.applegateinsulation.com
and estimating the job at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or
openion on this company. It looks like cellulose applied kind of like
foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulation
http://www.applegateinsulation.com and estimating the job at $1075.
Does anybody have any experience or openion on this company. It
looks like cellulose applied kind of like foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

YOU can install fiberglass batts for a piddly amount (guessing less than
$200). Do you really need the extreme insulation that the bids reflect?

On Nov 23, 9:21*pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulationhttp://www.applegateinsulation.com
and estimating the job at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or
openion on this company. *It looks like cellulose applied kind of like
foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

Aaron-

Wet sprayed cellulose:

does have a higher R-value than fiberglass
seals up the cavity better than fiberglass
does not rquire a vapor barrier (per mfr suggestion)

it takes a long time to dry out
studies have shown about a 20 to 30% improvement in "overall
insulation" performance so it is better than fiberglass

DIY fiberglass is a lot cheaper than spray cellulose or foam. If I
had an open attic & was in the market for insualtion I'd go with spray
cellulose.

I forgot where you're located so do you really need super wall
insulation?

Foamboard (DIY install) could get you up to R-18/21 but the stuff
ain't cheap.

cheers
Bob

You don't say if you're interested in doing this your self...but DAGS
for Mooney Wall....yes it's an odd name. It's a wall insulating method
between the wet cellulose and cellulose after rocking...it's worth
looking into...

On Nov 24, 9:40*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulation
http://www.applegateinsulation.comand estimating the job at $1075.
Does anybody have any experience or openion on this company. *It
looks like cellulose applied kind of like foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

YOU can install fiberglass batts for a piddly amount (guessing less than
$200). Do you really need the extreme insulation that the bids reflect?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The cellulose is hardly better than fiberglass, foam is alot better,
but those prices are no deal he is quoted.

BobK207 wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:21 pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose
walls are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon
completing the walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate
Insulationhttp://www.applegateinsulation.com and estimating the job
at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or openion on this
company. It looks like cellulose applied kind of like foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

Aaron-

Wet sprayed cellulose:

does have a higher R-value than fiberglass
seals up the cavity better than fiberglass
does not rquire a vapor barrier (per mfr suggestion)

it takes a long time to dry out
studies have shown about a 20 to 30% improvement in "overall
insulation" performance so it is better than fiberglass

DIY fiberglass is a lot cheaper than spray cellulose or foam. If I
had an open attic & was in the market for insualtion I'd go with spray
cellulose.

I forgot where you're located so do you really need super wall
insulation?

Foamboard (DIY install) could get you up to R-18/21 but the stuff
ain't cheap.

But he says it's for a kitchen, which I assume is situated on an exterior
wall. That said, how big could it be? If he shares a 16' wall with the
outside, we're talking about 16 2x4' batts or 128 sq ft of foamboard. Still
less than $200.

On Nov 24, 12:40*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
BobK207 wrote:
On Nov 23, 9:21 pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose
walls are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon
completing the walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate
Insulationhttp://www.applegateinsulation.comand estimating the job
at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or openion on this
company. It looks like cellulose applied kind of like foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

Aaron-

Wet sprayed cellulose:

does have a higher R-value than fiberglass
seals up the cavity better than fiberglass
does not rquire a vapor barrier (per mfr suggestion)

it takes a long time to dry out
studies have shown about a 20 to 30% improvement in "overall
insulation" performance so it is better than fiberglass

DIY fiberglass is a lot cheaper than spray cellulose or foam. * *If I
had an open attic & was in the market for insualtion I'd go with spray
cellulose.

I forgot where you're located so do you really need super wall
insulation?

Foamboard (DIY install) could get you up to R-18/21 * but the stuff
ain't cheap.

But he says it's for a kitchen, which I assume is situated on an exterior
wall. That said, how big could it be? If he shares a 16' wall with the
outside, we're talking about 16 2x4' batts or 128 sq ft of foamboard. Still
less than $200.

Bub-

I would agree but I figured more like 30' of outside wall (I assumed a
"corner" location. worst case" and I was thinking the R-6.5(?)
isocynuarte ? foam more $'s

cheers
Bob

fiberglass is practically worthless unless ALL the stud spacings are
perfect, he has no small cavities to fill and no windows and doors to work
around.


s


"HeyBub" wrote in message
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Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulation
http://www.applegateinsulation.com and estimating the job at $1075.
Does anybody have any experience or openion on this company. It
looks like cellulose applied kind of like foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

YOU can install fiberglass batts for a piddly amount (guessing less than
$200). Do you really need the extreme insulation that the bids reflect?

Very good answer and comparison.

steve


"BobK207" wrote in message
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Aaron-

Wet sprayed cellulose:

does have a higher R-value than fiberglass
seals up the cavity better than fiberglass
does not rquire a vapor barrier (per mfr suggestion)

it takes a long time to dry out
studies have shown about a 20 to 30% improvement in "overall
insulation" performance so it is better than fiberglass

DIY fiberglass is a lot cheaper than spray cellulose or foam. If I
had an open attic & was in the market for insualtion I'd go with spray
cellulose.

I forgot where you're located so do you really need super wall
insulation?

Foamboard (DIY install) could get you up to R-18/21 but the stuff
ain't cheap.

cheers
Bob

Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

I have received five estimates for inslulating my kitchen (whose walls
are currently open) ranging from $840 (cellulose upon completing the
walls) to $2500 (high density, closed cell foam).

The estimator I felt the most comfortable with was representing a
product made by Applegate Insulation http://www.applegateinsulation.com
and estimating the job at $1075. Does anybody have any experience or
openion on this company. It looks like cellulose applied kind of like
foam.

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron
If walls are open, and if you are only insulating the walls, cheapest by
far is fiberglass bats from the big box, installed by you. Unless you
live in a real cold climate, and if you do a careful job, the fancy
expanding foam will never pay back in your lifetime. Yeah, it is best,
but it costs several times what fiberglass does. Cellulose in walls
tends to sag, even the 'no sag' formulations. (IMHO, of course.)

--
aem sends...

properly installed, stabilized cellulose, does not 'sag'....

s


"aemeijers" wrote in message
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Cellulose in walls
tends to sag, even the 'no sag' formulations. (IMHO, of course.)

--
aem sends...

Steve Barker DLT wrote:
properly installed, stabilized cellulose, does not 'sag'....

s


"aemeijers" wrote in message
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Cellulose in walls
tends to sag, even the 'no sag' formulations. (IMHO, of course.)

--
aem sends...


If you say so. How is the average homeowner to know if it is properly
installed? I've opened plenty of walls where there was a BIG gap at the
top. A buddy of mine back home with a 2 year old mcmansion has cold
wall tops in a couple upstairs bedrooms. Yes, I've seen the demo walls
at the home shows, set up by the insulation companies. Call me old
fashioned, I guess- I don't trust new stuff till it has been around a
few decades. If I had a kitchen with open walls, I'd use fiberglass with
a good vapor barrier, and pocket the cost difference.

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Well you can't install 'stabilized' cellulose with the walls intact. I can
tell you that much. It has to be done to the open studs. I have some that
was put in place 2 years ago, that i still haven't covered, and it's still
just as tight as the day it dried.


steve


"aemeijers" wrote in message
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Steve Barker DLT wrote:
properly installed, stabilized cellulose, does not 'sag'....

s


"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

Cellulose in walls
tends to sag, even the 'no sag' formulations. (IMHO, of course.)

--
aem sends...


If you say so. How is the average homeowner to know if it is properly
installed? I've opened plenty of walls where there was a BIG gap at the
top. A buddy of mine back home with a 2 year old mcmansion has cold wall
tops in a couple upstairs bedrooms. Yes, I've seen the demo walls at the
home shows, set up by the insulation companies. Call me old fashioned, I
guess- I don't trust new stuff till it has been around a few decades. If I
had a kitchen with open walls, I'd use fiberglass with a good vapor
barrier, and pocket the cost difference.

--
aem sends...