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Customer Service is alive and well - in some places.

A youth sports organization that I am a part of bought a shed to store
some equipment. One of the board members bought a lock with 2 keys,
with the plan to have a dozen more keys made later on. When I asked
her for my key, she said she can't find a store that carries the
correct blanks. She tried the borgs and one local hardware store.

I told her I know of a lock shop that will either have the blanks, or
worse case, will sell us a new lock for which they can supply a dozen
keys.

Taking over the "project", I took the key to the lock shop and
explained the situation. Here's how he handled it:

He found 3 blanks that were really close. 1 is a bit shorter than the
original, 2 are a bit longer. He cut keys out of all 3 blanks, handed
them to me (along with the original) and told me go see if any of them
work. If any of them do, he'll make the rest, it not, we'll chose a
new lock.

Can you imagine one of the borgs letting a customer walk out with 3
keys to test, all on the verbal promise that he'll come back if they
do? I think not.

(And please don't suggest a combination lock - that ship has sailed.)

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

DerbyDad03 wrote:
Customer Service is alive and well - in some places.

A youth sports organization that I am a part of bought a shed to store
some equipment. One of the board members bought a lock with 2 keys,
with the plan to have a dozen more keys made later on. When I asked
her for my key, she said she can't find a store that carries the
correct blanks. She tried the borgs and one local hardware store.

I told her I know of a lock shop that will either have the blanks, or
worse case, will sell us a new lock for which they can supply a dozen
keys.

Taking over the "project", I took the key to the lock shop and
explained the situation. Here's how he handled it:

He found 3 blanks that were really close. 1 is a bit shorter than the
original, 2 are a bit longer. He cut keys out of all 3 blanks, handed
them to me (along with the original) and told me go see if any of them
work. If any of them do, he'll make the rest, it not, we'll chose a
new lock.

Can you imagine one of the borgs letting a customer walk out with 3
keys to test, all on the verbal promise that he'll come back if they
do? I think not.

(And please don't suggest a combination lock - that ship has sailed.)

There is actually a patent for a fingerprint reading
padlock. I want the one with a retina scanner. *snicker*

TDD

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On Nov 21, 1:43*pm, The Daring Dufas wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
Customer Service is alive and well - in some places.

A youth sports organization that I am a part of bought a shed to store
some equipment. One of the board members bought a lock with 2 keys,
with the plan to have a dozen more keys made later on. When I asked
her for my key, she said she can't find a store that carries the
correct blanks. She tried the borgs and one local hardware store.

I told her I know of a lock shop that will either have the blanks, or
worse case, will sell us a new lock for which they can supply a dozen
keys.

Taking over the "project", I took the key to the lock shop and
explained the situation. Here's how he handled it:

He found 3 blanks that were really close. 1 is a bit shorter than the
original, 2 are a bit longer. He cut keys out of all 3 blanks, handed
them to me (along with the original) and told me go see if any of them
work. If any of them do, he'll make the rest, it not, we'll chose a
new lock.

Can you imagine one of the borgs letting a customer walk out with 3
keys to test, all on the verbal promise that he'll come back if they
do? I think not.

(And please don't suggest a combination lock - that ship has sailed.)

There is actually a patent for a fingerprint reading
padlock. I want the one with a retina scanner. *snicker*

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If the "board of directors" I'm stuck with had a fingerprint reading
lock with a retina scanner, they'd probably stick their finger in
their eye trying to open the lock.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

You're right, that is uncommon small town service.

Now, may I offer some advice on your padlock situation? Master, and American
both make some very good padlocks that will handle outdoor weather
reasonably well. And have keys which can be copied. If unauthorized
duplicates are a concern, some padlocks have removable cylinders. And at
least one company makes cylinders with an odd keyway, not found on key
racks. And sold only to locksmiths. I can get one particular keyway called
"JS" at fairly close to regular cylinder prices. And all the keyblanks I
want.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...
Customer Service is alive and well - in some places.

A youth sports organization that I am a part of bought a shed to store
some equipment. One of the board members bought a lock with 2 keys,
with the plan to have a dozen more keys made later on. When I asked
her for my key, she said she can't find a store that carries the
correct blanks. She tried the borgs and one local hardware store.

I told her I know of a lock shop that will either have the blanks, or
worse case, will sell us a new lock for which they can supply a dozen
keys.

Taking over the "project", I took the key to the lock shop and
explained the situation. Here's how he handled it:

He found 3 blanks that were really close. 1 is a bit shorter than the
original, 2 are a bit longer. He cut keys out of all 3 blanks, handed
them to me (along with the original) and told me go see if any of them
work. If any of them do, he'll make the rest, it not, we'll chose a
new lock.

Can you imagine one of the borgs letting a customer walk out with 3
keys to test, all on the verbal promise that he'll come back if they
do? I think not.

(And please don't suggest a combination lock - that ship has sailed.)

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:43 pm, The Daring Dufas wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
Customer Service is alive and well - in some places.
A youth sports organization that I am a part of bought a shed to store
some equipment. One of the board members bought a lock with 2 keys,
with the plan to have a dozen more keys made later on. When I asked
her for my key, she said she can't find a store that carries the
correct blanks. She tried the borgs and one local hardware store.
I told her I know of a lock shop that will either have the blanks, or
worse case, will sell us a new lock for which they can supply a dozen
keys.
Taking over the "project", I took the key to the lock shop and
explained the situation. Here's how he handled it:
He found 3 blanks that were really close. 1 is a bit shorter than the
original, 2 are a bit longer. He cut keys out of all 3 blanks, handed
them to me (along with the original) and told me go see if any of them
work. If any of them do, he'll make the rest, it not, we'll chose a
new lock.
Can you imagine one of the borgs letting a customer walk out with 3
keys to test, all on the verbal promise that he'll come back if they
do? I think not.
(And please don't suggest a combination lock - that ship has sailed.)
There is actually a patent for a fingerprint reading
padlock. I want the one with a retina scanner. *snicker*

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If the "board of directors" I'm stuck with had a fingerprint reading
lock with a retina scanner, they'd probably stick their finger in
their eye trying to open the lock.

*snicker* I know people like that too. How is
it that folks with such dazzling intelligence
always seem to wind up in charge of things?

TDD

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The Daring Dufas wrote:

If the "board of directors" I'm stuck with had a fingerprint reading
lock with a retina scanner, they'd probably stick their finger in
their eye trying to open the lock.

*snicker* I know people like that too. How is
it that folks with such dazzling intelligence
always seem to wind up in charge of things?


It's the "Peter Principle." A person does a good job and gets promoted. This
sequence repeats until the person reaches a level at which he is
incompetent. There he stays, doing an incompetent job, until retirement.

Here's how it works at the Houston Police Department.

1. An incompetent manages (through guile, lies, or payoffs) to get past the
probationary period. But his supervisor knows he should not be interacting
with the public. He's assigned in the file room, where he has nothing to do
but study for the sergeant's exam.
2. He aces the exam, and is assigned to the property room. Again, he has
nothing to do but study for the lieutenant's exam.
3. After passing the exam with the highest possible marks, he's assigned to
the academy. This cushy job leaves ample opportunity to study for the
captain's exam.
4. After becoming captain, he's assign to the mayor's security detail where
he can major in brown-nosing the politicians. When an opening for deputy
chief appears, he's the logical candidate.
5. After a couple of years as deputy chief, he gets offered a job as chief
of a smaller city (Omaha, Minneapolis, etc.).
6. With a few years as chief of a medium-sized metropolis, he comes back to
Houston as chief.
7. Then to the Department of Homeland Security, then to retirement.

You'll notice he's never made an arrest or conducted an investigation. I
would say he's never interacted with a criminal, but he's been paling around
with politicians for about ten years.

I heard Lawrence J. Peter give a lecture once. The most memorable line: "I
have been studying government, man and boy, for over forty years. I have yet
to discover whether we are being led by well-meaning fools or by really
intelligent folks who are just putting us on."

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

HeyBub posted for all of us...


I heard Lawrence J. Peter give a lecture once. The most memorable line: "I
have been studying government, man and boy, for over forty years. I have yet
to discover whether we are being led by well-meaning fools or by really
intelligent folks who are just putting us on."

I don't think they are well meaning any more. I don't think they are smart
enough to fool anyone except themselves.

If everyone rises to their level of incompetence then why am I stuck at the
bottom? I should be master of the world. I know; I don't kiss ass and tell it
like I see it...
--
Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:
If the "board of directors" I'm stuck with had a fingerprint reading
lock with a retina scanner, they'd probably stick their finger in
their eye trying to open the lock.
*snicker* I know people like that too. How is
it that folks with such dazzling intelligence
always seem to wind up in charge of things?


It's the "Peter Principle." A person does a good job and gets promoted. This
sequence repeats until the person reaches a level at which he is
incompetent. There he stays, doing an incompetent job, until retirement.

Here's how it works at the Houston Police Department.

1. An incompetent manages (through guile, lies, or payoffs) to get past the
probationary period. But his supervisor knows he should not be interacting
with the public. He's assigned in the file room, where he has nothing to do
but study for the sergeant's exam.
2. He aces the exam, and is assigned to the property room. Again, he has
nothing to do but study for the lieutenant's exam.
3. After passing the exam with the highest possible marks, he's assigned to
the academy. This cushy job leaves ample opportunity to study for the
captain's exam.
4. After becoming captain, he's assign to the mayor's security detail where
he can major in brown-nosing the politicians. When an opening for deputy
chief appears, he's the logical candidate.
5. After a couple of years as deputy chief, he gets offered a job as chief
of a smaller city (Omaha, Minneapolis, etc.).
6. With a few years as chief of a medium-sized metropolis, he comes back to
Houston as chief.
7. Then to the Department of Homeland Security, then to retirement.

You'll notice he's never made an arrest or conducted an investigation. I
would say he's never interacted with a criminal, but he's been paling around
with politicians for about ten years.

I heard Lawrence J. Peter give a lecture once. The most memorable line: "I
have been studying government, man and boy, for over forty years. I have yet
to discover whether we are being led by well-meaning fools or by really
intelligent folks who are just putting us on."


I was on a remodeling job some years ago and
one of the carpenters had retired from The
Birmingham Police Dept. His reason for leaving
was the fact that he had taken the sergeant's
exam several times and the last time he took
the test he had the third highest score. The
powers to be went all the way down to number
150 and promoted a Negro. He took an early
retirement because he had enough of the male
bovine droppings. I better stop, I'm getting
mad again and may start telling the truth
which seems to upset a lot of people.

TDD

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

On Nov 21, 6:48*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
You're right, that is uncommon small town service.

Now, may I offer some advice on your padlock situation? Master, and American
both make some very good padlocks that will handle outdoor weather
reasonably well. And have keys which can be copied. If unauthorized
duplicates are a concern, some padlocks have removable cylinders. And at
least one company makes cylinders with an odd keyway, not found on key
racks. And sold only to locksmiths. I can get one particular keyway called
"JS" at fairly close to regular cylinder prices. And all the keyblanks I
want.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message

...
Customer Service is alive and well - in some places.

A youth sports organization that I am a part of bought a shed to store
some equipment. One of the board members bought a lock with 2 keys,
with the plan to have a dozen more keys made later on. When I asked
her for my key, she said she can't find a store that carries the
correct blanks. She tried the borgs and one local hardware store.

I told her I know of a lock shop that will either have the blanks, or
worse case, will sell us a new lock for which they can supply a dozen
keys.

Taking over the "project", I took the key to the lock shop and
explained the situation. Here's how he handled it:

He found 3 blanks that were really close. 1 is a bit shorter than the
original, 2 are a bit longer. He cut keys out of all 3 blanks, handed
them to me (along with the original) and told me go see if any of them
work. If any of them do, he'll make the rest, it not, we'll chose a
new lock.

Can you imagine one of the borgs letting a customer walk out with 3
keys to test, all on the verbal promise that he'll come back if they
do? I think not.

(And please don't suggest a combination lock - that ship has sailed.)

Thanks for the advice. As it turns out, all 3 of the keys work just
fine. The shortest one seems to be the smoothest, but that might just
be a specific key thing and not due to the length. In any case, even
if I get a mix set, I know he'll have enough blanks for the dozen or
so I need.

The lock that was chosen is supposed to be weatherproof and has a
shrouded shank so you can't get a bolt cutter on it.

It's similiar to this:

http://www.wesecure.com/Merchant2/gr...us-padlock.jpg

Trust me, if I have to open the shed in the winter, I'll be sure to
bring my propane torch with me.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white, that's
racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's applauded.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
HeyBub wrote:

I was on a remodeling job some years ago and
one of the carpenters had retired from The
Birmingham Police Dept. His reason for leaving
was the fact that he had taken the sergeant's
exam several times and the last time he took
the test he had the third highest score. The
powers to be went all the way down to number
150 and promoted a Negro. He took an early
retirement because he had enough of the male
bovine droppings. I better stop, I'm getting
mad again and may start telling the truth
which seems to upset a lot of people.

TDD

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

Thanks. That's a good picture. Right, those discus style padlocks often take
a blank that leaves the hardware guys confused. Heat may be needed, if some
water gets in, and freezes. They often have a drain hole to prevent that.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the advice. As it turns out, all 3 of the keys work just
fine. The shortest one seems to be the smoothest, but that might just
be a specific key thing and not due to the length. In any case, even
if I get a mix set, I know he'll have enough blanks for the dozen or
so I need.

The lock that was chosen is supposed to be weatherproof and has a
shrouded shank so you can't get a bolt cutter on it.

It's similiar to this:

http://www.wesecure.com/Merchant2/gr...us-padlock.jpg

Trust me, if I have to open the shed in the winter, I'll be sure to
bring my propane torch with me.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

Stormin Mormon wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white, that's
racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's applauded.


If you tell the truth, that's also considered racist.
If you ask a liberal to define racism, they usually
answer "You know what racism is! I don't have to
define it for you!" Liberals are very entertaining.
No, I'm not a Republican.

TDD

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The Daring Dufas wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white,
that's racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's
applauded.

If you tell the truth, that's also considered racist.
If you ask a liberal to define racism, they usually
answer "You know what racism is! I don't have to
define it for you!" Liberals are very entertaining.
No, I'm not a Republican.


It's like giving a peanut to the organ-grinder's monkey...

You make some innocent statement like "He needed killin', " and they twitch
for hours.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

DerbyDad03 wrote:

The lock that was chosen is supposed to be weatherproof and has a
shrouded shank so you can't get a bolt cutter on it.

It's similiar to this:

http://www.wesecure.com/Merchant2/gr...us-padlock.jpg

Trust me, if I have to open the shed in the winter, I'll be sure to
bring my propane torch with me.

Excellent choice of locks for the application. Don't overlook the hasp to
which it's fitted either. Or the hinges.

I get a kick out of the commercials for "The Club" and similar anti-theft
devices. A bolt-cutter on the steering wheel itself easily defeats the
gizmo. It's a bitch to go to the parking lot and find, instead of your car,
The Club lying on the pavement.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

HeyBub wrote:

I get a kick out of the commercials for "The Club" and similar anti-theft
devices. A bolt-cutter on the steering wheel itself easily defeats the
gizmo. It's a bitch to go to the parking lot and find, instead of your car,
The Club lying on the pavement.


BTDTGTTS, early 80s
I'm at the police station making the report of my stolen car. The desk
sergeant asks "Are you sure it's been stolen?
I swing the club, attached to my steering wheel, up onto the desk.
He managed not to crack up, but a smile got through.
I did get my 50 bucks back from The Club.

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On Nov 23, 1:22*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white, that's
racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's applauded.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.
And in 2008 that intolerant attitude is 50+ years out of date.
'Because' it's not Christian at all.
Stick to the topic here and stop spewing hatred.
Terry.

Lock Shop - Old Fashioned Customer Service
 

HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white,
that's racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's
applauded.
If you tell the truth, that's also considered racist.
If you ask a liberal to define racism, they usually
answer "You know what racism is! I don't have to
define it for you!" Liberals are very entertaining.
No, I'm not a Republican.


It's like giving a peanut to the organ-grinder's monkey...

You make some innocent statement like "He needed killin', " and they twitch
for hours.


Isn't that the Texas murder defense. "Judge, he
needed killin!"

TDD

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terry wrote:
On Nov 23, 1:22 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white, that's
racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's applauded.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
And in 2008 that intolerant attitude is 50+ years out of date.
'Because' it's not Christian at all.
Stick to the topic here and stop spewing hatred.
Terry.

Define "hatred". *snicker*
Another liberal catch word.

TDD

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The Daring Dufas wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

If the "board of directors" I'm stuck with had a fingerprint reading
lock with a retina scanner, they'd probably stick their finger in
their eye trying to open the lock.

*snicker* I know people like that too. How is
it that folks with such dazzling intelligence
always seem to wind up in charge of things?


It's the "Peter Principle." A person does a good job and gets
promoted. This sequence repeats until the person reaches a level at
which he is incompetent. There he stays, doing an incompetent job,
until retirement.

Here's how it works at the Houston Police Department.

1. An incompetent manages (through guile, lies, or payoffs) to get
past the probationary period. But his supervisor knows he should not
be interacting with the public. He's assigned in the file room, where
he has nothing to do but study for the sergeant's exam.
2. He aces the exam, and is assigned to the property room. Again, he
has nothing to do but study for the lieutenant's exam.
3. After passing the exam with the highest possible marks, he's
assigned to the academy. This cushy job leaves ample opportunity to
study for the captain's exam.
4. After becoming captain, he's assign to the mayor's security detail
where he can major in brown-nosing the politicians. When an opening
for deputy chief appears, he's the logical candidate.
5. After a couple of years as deputy chief, he gets offered a job as
chief of a smaller city (Omaha, Minneapolis, etc.).
6. With a few years as chief of a medium-sized metropolis, he comes
back to Houston as chief.
7. Then to the Department of Homeland Security, then to retirement.

You'll notice he's never made an arrest or conducted an investigation.
I would say he's never interacted with a criminal, but he's been
paling around with politicians for about ten years.

I heard Lawrence J. Peter give a lecture once. The most memorable
line: "I have been studying government, man and boy, for over forty
years. I have yet to discover whether we are being led by well-meaning
fools or by really intelligent folks who are just putting us on."


I disagree with #7. The Homeland Security people that I encounter are
not bright enough to to pass any exam. I strongly suspect that 9/11 was
the best thing that happened to them. They were unemployed on 9/10 and
after 9/11 they had a uniform, authority and a guaranteed guberment
paycheck.

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terry wrote:
On Nov 23, 1:22 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white,
that's racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's
applauded.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
And in 2008 that intolerant attitude is 50+ years out of date.
'Because' it's not Christian at all.
Stick to the topic here and stop spewing hatred.
Terry.

"Hatred" is a natural human emotion, given to humans by God and God doesn't
make junk.

Consider Jonas Salk as he peered into his microscope. Of the many emotions
driving him on, many were altruistic, absolutely. But some motivations were
what many religious people would condemn. He probably HATED the notion of
crippled children; he probably was JEALOUS of Sabin getting all the
publicity. Salk was probably SELFISH enough to want to do his own research
and he was PRIDEFUL in the hopes that people would shower him with
"atta-boys."

What was the result? In my lifetime Polio has been (all but) eradicated.

Heck, even Christians say "Hate the sin and (do something, I forget
what)..."

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Some Dufas just mentioned people like you. Amazing, and it proves true, so
quickly. Thanks for helping make his point.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"terry" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 1:22 am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
In the USA in 2008. If you promote a white man because he's white, that's
racist. If you promote a negro becuase he's black, that's applauded.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
And in 2008 that intolerant attitude is 50+ years out of date.
'Because' it's not Christian at all.
Stick to the topic here and stop spewing hatred.
Terry.

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Hatred defined by a liberal: When a conservative is winning a debate.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...
terry wrote:
And in 2008 that intolerant attitude is 50+ years out of date.
'Because' it's not Christian at all.
Stick to the topic here and stop spewing hatred.
Terry.

Define "hatred". *snicker*
Another liberal catch word.

TDD

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....... and vote the way I tell you.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...


Heck, even Christians say "Hate the sin and (do something, I forget
what)..."

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On Nov 21, 9:26*pm, Tekkie® wrote:

If everyone rises to their level of incompetence then why am I stuck at the
bottom? *I should be master of the world. *I know; I don't kiss ass and tell it
like I see it...

Then nobody wants your perspective. Ask Colin Powell if knowing what
the **** you're talking about is perceived to be of any value these
days.
-----

- gpsman