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Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as
I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
Are you sure you have the right couplings for the pipe? There are some very
similar size PVC pipes. Make sure you aren't just guessing it is schedule 40. Look for markings on the pipe. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
You would be best to dig until you get to bend, and then dig a few feet past
the bend. That way you can move the pipe at the break back and forth so that it gets fully seated in the new couplings. An alternative is to use a clamp-on repair kit. It clamps over the existing pipe without having to move it back and forth. Personally, I'd just dig up enough pipe so that I could get it properly seated in the couplings. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC Cut the bad section out put a 90 on cut ends then just pipe a U shape. They do make a slip coupling http://www.clearpvcpipe.com/index.as...ATS&Category=8 not cheap |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
The couplings are exact size, the clearance I need is in the longitudinal
direction to be able to get them apart enough so one can fit over the other. "Art" wrote in message m... Are you sure you have the right couplings for the pipe? There are some very similar size PVC pipes. Make sure you aren't just guessing it is schedule 40. Look for markings on the pipe. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
I would do that, but that's when I ran into roots, gravel etc...so it's
difficult. The pipe diameter is too large to give a bend with a short distance...I might have to dig 8-10' to make it work. I thought may be there is a coupling that is not socketxsocket but just a slip coupling that will allow me to apply the solvent, slide onto one pipe, align the two, apply cement to both end, and in a split second slide the slip coupling back ontot both pipes. But I could find no such thing. Thanks, MC "Zoot" wrote in message ... You would be best to dig until you get to bend, and then dig a few feet past the bend. That way you can move the pipe at the break back and forth so that it gets fully seated in the new couplings. An alternative is to use a clamp-on repair kit. It clamps over the existing pipe without having to move it back and forth. Personally, I'd just dig up enough pipe so that I could get it properly seated in the couplings. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US250%26sa%3DN |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"PanHandler" wrote in message . .. $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US250%26sa%3DN You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"PanHandler" wrote in message . .. "PanHandler" wrote in message . .. $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US250%26sa%3DN You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. Thanks, I think this is what I need. Another option I was just thinking of, is introduce a "U" offset. Instead of doing a straight section repair, do an 90 degree elbow and offset it some distance to span the length and come back. Altogether 4 elbows but it would be easier to get one of the elbows lined up transversely. MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
On Nov 8, 6:55*pm, "PanHandler" wrote:
"PanHandler" wrote in message . .. $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...orksusa.com/pr.... You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. Nope. Just one plus a standard coupling and a section of pipe. Harry K |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "PanHandler" wrote in message . .. "PanHandler" wrote in message . .. $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US250%26sa%3DN You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. Thanks, I think this is what I need. Another option I was just thinking of, is introduce a "U" offset. Instead of doing a straight section repair, do an 90 degree elbow and offset it some distance to span the length and come back. Altogether 4 elbows but it would be easier to get one of the elbows lined up transversely. Too much work, too many joints to fail. I've used the one in the link many times, for a long time. Never a problem, and the only tool needed is a pipe cutter (hacksaw not recommended for sprinklers, particles in spray heads). Quick and easy! |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"Harry K" wrote in message ... On Nov 8, 6:55 pm, "PanHandler" wrote: "PanHandler" wrote in message . .. $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...orksusa.com/pr... You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. Nope. Just one plus a standard coupling and a section of pipe. I usually avoid glue joints in a tough-to-get-to repair of this sort, and dealing with pipe with water dripping out during the job. |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
On Nov 8, 8:13*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
"PanHandler" wrote in message . .. "PanHandler" wrote in message ... $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...orksusa.com/pr.... You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. Thanks, I think this is what I need. Another option I was just thinking of, is introduce a "U" offset. *Instead of doing a straight section repair, do an 90 degree elbow and offset it some distance to span the length and come back. *Altogether 4 elbows but it would be easier to get one of the elbows lined up transversely. MC I've done that but using the 'Dressler Coupling" (as in the cite) is the simple way. I don't like using compression couplings on buried PVC lines though - just apersonal predjudice. Harry K |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
MiamiCuse wrote:
This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I know I have seen "slip" couplings, but I can't remember where. No shoulder in the middle, they slip over the pipe for just such a repair. -- js |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
MiamiCuse wrote:
I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Dig up more of the pipe so you can flex it. A yard or so at least. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
On Nov 8, 8:08*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. *I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC A compression fitting works, but the real question is they should not break unless they froze with water in them, there are line drains that close under pressure, but wont keep in water so they freeze over winter. |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
On Nov 8, 9:08*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. *I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC buy a product named 5 minute epoxy. It comes with an injector , and u push the plunger to spread out equal amounts of the mixture and mix it well and spread it over the crack and it will last forever. Again it's called 5 minute epoxy. U can get it at a hardware store, good luck henry |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
In article , "alarman"
wrote: MiamiCuse wrote: This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I know I have seen "slip" couplings, but I can't remember where. No shoulder in the middle, they slip over the pipe for just such a repair. My thought, too. Easy enough to modify your own on the lathe. |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
MiamiCuse wrote:
I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC Just buy repair couplings, slip it onto the pipe (there is no rib in the center). Place the new piece in place, apply the glue and slip the coupling into place. You need zero flex for this. If you are stuck with a homeowner store and can't get repair couplings, you can make your own by cutting out the rib in the middle of the coupling with a pocket knife. -- Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc. Georgetown, TX |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"Smitty Two" wrote in message ... In article , "alarman" wrote: MiamiCuse wrote: This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I know I have seen "slip" couplings, but I can't remember where. No shoulder in the middle, they slip over the pipe for just such a repair. My thought, too. Easy enough to modify your own on the lathe. I use these to connect my well pump to the pressure tank and distribution pipes. They are cheap and readily available at your local friendly hardware store. They slip out easily, though, you can't use them in a place where one pipe can move back in forth. In the case of the OP where the pipes can't move back and forth, they would work just fine. |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
On Nov 8, 8:13*pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote:
"PanHandler" wrote in message . .. "PanHandler" wrote in message ... $5.60 for a Compression Repair Coupling at: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...orksusa.com/pr.... You will need two of the above and a piece of 1.25" PVC if a single one doesn't span the leaking section. Thanks, I think this is what I need. Another option I was just thinking of, is introduce a "U" offset. *Instead of doing a straight section repair, do an 90 degree elbow and offset it some distance to span the length and come back. *Altogether 4 elbows but it would be easier to get one of the elbows lined up transversely. MC MC- The multiple 90's repair is a good option...I've used it with copper tubing. Depending on the size of the "flaw" / "crack" / "hole" in the pipe....... a saddle Tee is a quick & easy way to fix them. Unfortunately, this method will only work with relatively small damaged areas and before you cut up the pipe. http://www.plumbingsupply.com/saddle.html I know Home Depot & Ace Hardware carry the saddle Tee's (at least to 1") The 1 1/4" saddle Tee is 2 1/4" overall length so I'd be comfortable repairing a flaw of about an 1" or so. The best thing about this method is ....very little digging. Why is the pipe failing? cheers Bob |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
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The following URL: http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&resnum=0&q=fern co%20coupler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf has a length of 90 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 25 characters: http://tinyurl.com/5zso8w [Open in new window] These couplers may be easier to use, compared with slip couplers. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
"ransley" wrote in message ... On Nov 8, 8:08 pm, "MiamiCuse" wrote: I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC A compression fitting works, but the real question is they should not break unless they froze with water in them, there are line drains that close under pressure, but wont keep in water so they freeze over winter. They broke because the city replaced the sidewalk last year and I have not used the sprinkler system for over a year (we had water restrictions). The line runs along the sidewalk and I am surprised I did not find more leak. Unfortunately, a nearby tree also had root reaching the sidewalk and so the affected pipe has roots around it as well making the fix very challenging. No freezing here in Miami Florida. Thanks, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
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http://www.pondparts.com/subcat267.html On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:08:45 -0500, "MiamiCuse" wrote: I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
In article , "MiamiCuse" wrote:
This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. You're not, and there is. You need something called an RP coupling: it's a coupling with no flange in the middle. Make your first joint with a standard coupling as you do now. Then slip the RP coupling onto the pipe at the other splice, several inches past the joint. Apply cement to both of the pieces to be joined, on each side of the joint, and slide the coupling into place. Done. |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
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Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
I don't think I can use Fernco, since these are basically for drains, and my
sprinkler line will be pressurized. Thanks. "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... TinyURL was created! The following URL: http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&resnum=0&q=fern co%20coupler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf has a length of 90 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 25 characters: http://tinyurl.com/5zso8w [Open in new window] These couplers may be easier to use, compared with slip couplers. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I found a leak in my sprinkler line - I thought I was done, then as soon as I fixed one leak, the one downstream gets enough pressure and bust out. The line is 1-1/4" PVC sch 40 line, when I locate and bug up the leak I usually dig a hole say 12" in diameter 8" deep so I have room to work with. I cut a short section of the pipe out (like 6"), then glue a new section back in, with a coupler on each end. This sounds simple and easy, however, I am really having a hard time with this as the pipe diameter is so large that there is no flex, so once I glue one end on, the other end just will not go in. I ended up having to cut the pipe such that only 1/4" goes into the socket of the coupling, and I had to struggle a long time to even get that much to go in. I am sure I am not doing it right and there must be an easier way. Thanks in advance, MC |
Is there an easier way to fix a crack in a large PVC pipe?
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