by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of
the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa
(but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future
Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar
to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups,
your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved
or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the
world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem
it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to
losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting
fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences,
writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are
comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for
yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political
accountability.

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White
Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to
challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result
of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to
cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots,
intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for
proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and
political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power
from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt
cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately
their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was
there and I saw it happen.

South Africa used to be one of the most advanced nations on earth.
Then Washington intervened.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the
sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National
Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to
achieve "peace."

Mandela was in jail for twenty seven years not because he was an
innocent black man but because he was a Communist terrorist who said
in court that he was planning to kill people with bombs. He could have
been released at any time simply by renouncing terrorism. He refused.

Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are
builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for
our society.

The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts
and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the
psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and
Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in
perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia
- is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet
Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to
America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves.
The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation
of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and
its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and
savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western
politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps:
the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside
the realm.

Again, Washington forced Rhodesia into Communist hands. Rhodesia
exported tons of food. Zimbabwe typically starves. Washington did
this.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough
people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the
armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the
craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy
them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of
Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North
America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We
are not so very different from you.

South Africans voted for their own suicide. Did you?

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad
(not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and
"racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white
man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his
compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your
neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's
history.

See my recent piece – Before the Election: What You Must Do – about
the deliberate cultivation of white guilt in the Communist government
schools.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western
influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's
tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protégés. Many dictators in
Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would
deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing
whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled
by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After
receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust
against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will
capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They
don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they
were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise
and be nice.

A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting
somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about
falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the
meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their
community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted
and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into
their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't
want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws.
But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by
court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority
says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge
"white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled
with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition
187 has already been overturned

What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change
the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer
want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white
"racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying
the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official
language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first
targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now
experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the
decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the
banishment of your history from the education of the young; the
revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail.
Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear.
Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making
escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly
purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your
neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that
litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of
witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for
"medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in
the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome
generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial
solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites.
When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world,
white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring
him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents,
ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and
siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his
friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and
declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In
South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds
such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply
abandoned.

What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either
destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the
goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as
in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy
votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or
devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the
most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa
is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no
getting it back again.

Please note. Once it’s gone, it’s gone. Whatever you do later, however
hard you fight, you cannot get it back.

Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot
fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You
cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot
appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises
you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his
political opponents.

To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to
people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the
test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will
probably fail.

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake:
They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and
George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your
possessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights
activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will
fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and
your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your
weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=83332

For Europeans wrote:
by Alan

On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African
journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of
parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of
the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa
(but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future
Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar
to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups,
your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved
or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the
world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem
it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to
losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting
fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences,
writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are
comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for
yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political
accountability.

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White
Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to
challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result
of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to
cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots,
intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for
proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and
political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power
from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt
cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately
their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was
there and I saw it happen.

South Africa used to be one of the most advanced nations on earth.
Then Washington intervened.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the
sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National
Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to
achieve "peace."

Mandela was in jail for twenty seven years not because he was an
innocent black man but because he was a Communist terrorist who said
in court that he was planning to kill people with bombs. He could have
been released at any time simply by renouncing terrorism. He refused.

Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are
builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for
our society.

The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts
and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the
psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and
Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in
perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia
- is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet
Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to
America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves.
The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation
of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and
its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and
savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western
politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps:
the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside
the realm.

Again, Washington forced Rhodesia into Communist hands. Rhodesia
exported tons of food. Zimbabwe typically starves. Washington did
this.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough
people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the
armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the
craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy
them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of
Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North
America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We
are not so very different from you.

South Africans voted for their own suicide. Did you?

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad
(not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and
"racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white
man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his
compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your
neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's
history.

See my recent piece – Before the Election: What You Must Do – about
the deliberate cultivation of white guilt in the Communist government
schools.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western
influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's
tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protégés. Many dictators in
Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would
deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing
whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled
by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After
receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust
against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will
capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They
don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they
were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise
and be nice.

A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting
somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about
falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the
meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their
community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted
and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into
their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't
want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws.
But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by
court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority
says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge
"white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled
with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition
187 has already been overturned

What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change
the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer
want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white
"racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying
the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official
language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first
targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now
experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the
decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the
banishment of your history from the education of the young; the
revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail.
Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear.
Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making
escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly
purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your
neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that
litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of
witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for
"medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in
the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome
generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial
solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites.
When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world,
white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring
him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents,
ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and
siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his
friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and
declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In
South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds
such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are ...

read more »

Ahhh, without usenet, the racists would have to congregate at the
mall, I guess.


Dave

Ahhh, without usenet, the racists would have to congregate at
the mall, I guess.

The Internet in all of it's glory is perhaps the single greatest
agent for good the world has ever known, but yet at the same time
is also the greatest agent for evil ever known to man. Prior to the
Internet, it took some effort to be a tyrant or even to let people
know that you're stupid or ignorant. Now, one can flash their
stupidity, ignorance, racism, and other evils around the world at
the speed of light and nobody seems to care.

As to the racists, they will always be among us and will gather
wherever there is darkness of ideas and ignorance.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Laid off yet? Keep buying foreign, and you soon will be!" -
increasingly seen on bumper sticker

This "South African" author displays a very unlikely familiarity with
minute details of American race relations, terms like "Chicanos" etc.

And I think that I have seen this annoying, sad and turgid writing
style before in quite a few falsely attributed anonymous posts.

i

Ignoramus3975 wrote:
This "South African" author displays a very unlikely familiarity with
minute details of American race relations, terms like "Chicanos" etc.

And I think that I have seen this annoying, sad and turgid writing
style before in quite a few falsely attributed anonymous posts.

I am sure you have. fu set.

On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! No thanks! Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:34:44 -0800 (PST), Jimbo wrote:

On Nov 6, 9:45Â*pm, For Europeans wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa €“ by the United States €“ is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! No thanks! Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

The world's first heart transplant was carried out in South Africa by a
South African surgeon.

South African weapons are among the best especially their armored cars

On Nov 7, 4:39*pm, Irwell wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:34:44 -0800 (PST), Jimbo wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! *No thanks! *Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. *Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

The world's first heart transplant was carried out in South Africa by a
South African surgeon.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:24:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:

South African weapons are among the best especially their armored cars

"The size of your weapons and defenses doesn't show the heights of your
strengths, it only reveals the depths of your fears and insecurities." -- caMel

On Nov 7, 10:34*am, Jimbo wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote: by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! *No thanks! *Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. *Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

If you don't know anyone from South Africa then I would suggest you
get to know someone. You will find that what is written in the above
article is quite factual and true.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:05:51 -0800 (PST), BobR wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:34*am, Jimbo wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote: by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! *No thanks! *Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. *Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

If you don't know anyone from South Africa then I would suggest you
get to know someone. You will find that what is written in the above
article is quite factual and true.

If that is true, what a shame that South Africa has been so backward for the
last 3 decades compared to the rest of the world. I blame it on the insecure
European values if nothing else.

If only Europeans hadn't invaded so may civilizations and tried to make them
like their selves. The world would have been a better place. European values are
royally ****ed-up. As testament by the original poster.

I bet they didn't realize it would prove that.

Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language. Nothing but
a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.

On Nov 7, 6:05*pm, BobR wrote:

If you don't know anyone from South Africa then I would suggest you
get to know someone. *You will find that what is written in the above
article is quite factual and true.-

I was surprised by their resignation and acceptance of all the
violence.

Irwell wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:34:44 -0800 (PST), Jimbo wrote:

On Nov 6, 9:45 pm, For Europeans wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa €“ by the United States €“ is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! No thanks! Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

The world's first heart transplant was carried out in South Africa by a
South African surgeon.

Were not the ancestors of the surgeon Dutch?
Hummm, Dutch slavers also delivered quite a
few Africans to The USA for no paying jobs.
History is full of strange and wonderful facts.

TDD

stevensmith wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:05:51 -0800 (PST), BobR wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:34 am, Jimbo wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:45 pm, For Europeans wrote: by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! No thanks! Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.
If you don't know anyone from South Africa then I would suggest you
get to know someone. You will find that what is written in the above
article is quite factual and true.

If that is true, what a shame that South Africa has been so backward for the
last 3 decades compared to the rest of the world. I blame it on the insecure
European values if nothing else.

If only Europeans hadn't invaded so may civilizations and tried to make them
like their selves. The world would have been a better place. European values are
royally ****ed-up. As testament by the original poster.

I bet they didn't realize it would prove that.

Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language. Nothing but
a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.


Are you talking about the French?
ROTFLMAO

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:


Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language. Nothing but
a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.


Are you talking about the French?
ROTFLMAO


No clearly not. LATIN is the language the french ****ed up.

jk

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:21:07 -0600, stevensmith
wrote:


If only Europeans hadn't invaded so may civilizations and tried to make them
like their selves. The world would have been a better place. European values are
royally ****ed-up. As testament by the original poster.

If that were actually true, when the Europeans pulled out of colonies,
they would not have dropped back into anarchy, blood and fire as most
did.

Your view of the "noble savage" is unrealistic, utopian and bull****.

Gunner

In article ,
(jk) says...
The Daring Dufas wrote:


Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language. Nothing but
a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.


Are you talking about the French?
ROTFLMAO


No clearly not. LATIN is the language the french ****ed up.

French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian and Romansh are all very close to
the provincial Latin spoken in those areas in the 5th century. People
have the impression there was only one Latin, but that is not true.
With no mass communication, regional dialects were dominant.

--
For email, replace firstnamelastinitial
with my first name and last initial.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:39:21 -0800, Irwell wrote:

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:34:44 -0800 (PST), Jimbo wrote:

On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote:
by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.
(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! No thanks! Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

The world's first heart transplant was carried out in South Africa by a
South African surgeon.

A white Afrikaaner, of course.

Eli

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:37:43 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Political Correctness is ...

.... a social attempt to teach the immature and insecure what "respect" means.
The problems is that they've never had any self-respect so they can't be
expected to ever have respect for anyone else. We still hope that they learn
what it means one day so they will finally deserve the respect they so
desperately want and need, and in turn, will learn to respect all others.

The only challenge with dealing with people who have no self-respect is that you
will somehow have to try to retain your own dignity and self-respect, while the
non-politically-correct who lack those things will desperately try to rob you of
them.

You could call "political correctness" the more apparent meaning of "respect for
others", but they still wouldn't be able to figure it out. Those who fail to
understand this most basic of human principles have never been too intelligent.

In article ,
Mariner wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:37:43 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Political Correctness is ...

... a social attempt to teach the immature and insecure what "respect" means.

What certain people say THEIR concept of respect means. Which often
also means not respecting others who may have a different concept (or in
the case of many, no concept. The latter of course don't generally have
an epiphany and all of sudden become respectful).

The problems is that they've never had any self-respect so they can't be
expected to ever have respect for anyone else. We still hope that they learn
what it means one day so they will finally deserve the respect they so
desperately want and need, and in turn, will learn to respect all others.

You could have been more self-righteous and condescending if you
tried couldn't you? Shows a great lack of respect in your manner of
trying to teach respect..


You could call "political correctness" the more apparent meaning of "respect
for
others", but they still wouldn't be able to figure it out. Those who fail to
understand this most basic of human principles have never been too
intelligent.

I was wrong.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:53:54 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:


Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language.
Nothing but a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.

Nobody ****ed up the English language as much as you ****s.


Be nice, now. Many of us like ****s.

Language-garbling Yankee ****s?

Eli

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. We don't just
borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down
alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new
vocabulary." James D. Nicoll


"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:34:24 -0600, Mariner
wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:37:43 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Political Correctness is ...

... a social attempt to teach the immature and insecure what "respect" means.
The problems is that they've never had any self-respect so they can't be
expected to ever have respect for anyone else. We still hope that they learn
what it means one day so they will finally deserve the respect they so
desperately want and need, and in turn, will learn to respect all others.

The only challenge with dealing with people who have no self-respect is that you
will somehow have to try to retain your own dignity and self-respect, while the
non-politically-correct who lack those things will desperately try to rob you of
them.

You could call "political correctness" the more apparent meaning of "respect for
others", but they still wouldn't be able to figure it out. Those who fail to
understand this most basic of human principles have never been too intelligent.


Fascinating rant from a Leftist apologist who didnt get any respect
when he was a kid. If Id had to guess..Id say he had bad skin, no
social skills and went to band camp.


Gunner

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 06:56:23 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
Mariner wrote:

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:37:43 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Political Correctness is ...

... a social attempt to teach the immature and insecure what "respect" means.

What certain people say THEIR concept of respect means. Which often
also means not respecting others who may have a different concept (or in
the case of many, no concept. The latter of course don't generally have
an epiphany and all of sudden become respectful).

The problems is that they've never had any self-respect so they can't be
expected to ever have respect for anyone else. We still hope that they learn
what it means one day so they will finally deserve the respect they so
desperately want and need, and in turn, will learn to respect all others.

You could have been more self-righteous and condescending if you
tried couldn't you? Shows a great lack of respect in your manner of
trying to teach respect..


You could call "political correctness" the more apparent meaning of "respect
for
others", but they still wouldn't be able to figure it out. Those who fail to
understand this most basic of human principles have never been too
intelligent.

I was wrong.


Well said!

Gunner

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

On Nov 7, 3:21*pm, stevensmith wrote:
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:05:51 -0800 (PST), BobR wrote:
On Nov 7, 10:34*am, Jimbo wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:45*pm, For Europeans wrote: by Alan Stang
November 6, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

I read this warning on my daily radio talk show last week, before the
election. It is even more relevant now, because the same thing that
was imposed on South Africa – by the United States – is now happening
here. So many people have asked for a copy of this message from a
South African journalist that I post it here. My comments on her
comments are in bold. Of course the parallels cannot be exact, but see
whether you recognize any of this.

(snip away the rest of this crap)

Raciast BS and revisionist history offered as advice! *No thanks! *Any
article in which South Africa is held to be "advanced" either now or
at any point in it's history is naive and non-sensical. *Then again,
given that ALL mankind is descended from Africans, maybe it was true.

If you don't know anyone from South Africa then I would suggest you
get to know someone. *You will find that what is written in the above
article is quite factual and true.

If that is true, what a shame that South Africa has been so backward for the
last 3 decades compared to the rest of the world. I blame it on the insecure
European values if nothing else.

If only Europeans hadn't invaded so may civilizations and tried to make them
like their selves. The world would have been a better place. European values are
royally ****ed-up. As testament by the original poster.

There was a good reason for the American Revolution.


Michael

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:56:50 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:53:54 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:


Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language.
Nothing but a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.

Nobody ****ed up the English language as much as you ****s.


Be nice, now. Many of us like ****s.

Language-garbling Yankee ****s?

Eli

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. We don't just
borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down
alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new
vocabulary." James D. Nicoll


"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

Yes, but what the Yankees have done to the English language is nothing
less than a travesty.

Eli

Gunner Asch added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:53:54 -0500, Eli Grubman
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language
is that the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore.
We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued
other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and
rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." James D. Nicoll

"England and America are two countries divided by a common
language" - George Bernard Shaw

"English is a language hard to understand, but easy to
misunderstand" - Unknown or George Bernard Shaw

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Most people with power would like to use it wisely, if someone
believable would tell them how", Robert Townsend in the book "Up
The Organization"

Eli Grubman wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:56:50 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:53:54 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:

Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language.
Nothing but a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.
Nobody ****ed up the English language as much as you ****s.

Be nice, now. Many of us like ****s.
Language-garbling Yankee ****s?

Eli
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. We don't just
borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down
alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new
vocabulary." James D. Nicoll


"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

Yes, but what the Yankees have done to the English language is nothing
less than a travesty.

Er, look up "travesty"

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:45:18 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:56:50 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:53:54 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:


Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language.
Nothing but a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.

Nobody ****ed up the English language as much as you ****s.


Be nice, now. Many of us like ****s.

Language-garbling Yankee ****s?

Eli

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. We don't just
borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down
alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new
vocabulary." James D. Nicoll


"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

Yes, but what the Yankees have done to the English language is nothing
less than a travesty.

Eli

Blink blink....right. Say, any good taco or pizza joints in your
neighborhood?

Im curious, where are you posting from, that you claim your version of
English is so much more pure than Yanks.

Gunner

"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:35:21 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:45:18 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:56:50 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:53:54 -0500, Eli Grubman
wrote:


Europeans? **** them all. They even screwed up the english language.
Nothing but a bunch of pompous self-righteous asswipes.

Nobody ****ed up the English language as much as you ****s.


Be nice, now. Many of us like ****s.

Language-garbling Yankee ****s?

Eli

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
the English language is as pure as a crib-house whore. We don't just
borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down
alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new
vocabulary." James D. Nicoll


"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
Maj. Gen. John Sedgewick, killed by a sniper in 1864 at the battle of Spotsylvania

Yes, but what the Yankees have done to the English language is nothing
less than a travesty.

Eli

Blink blink....right. Say, any good taco or pizza joints in your
neighborhood?

There are no "joints" at all in this neighbourhood. Nor do we say "I
could care less", "donuts" etc etc.

Im curious, where are you posting from, that you claim your version of
English is so much more pure than Yanks.

The home of the language, of course.

Eli