.... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking his
father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended anybody
else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life, including
the military...who in Vietnam decided not to follow protocol and take
evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane, but proceeded to
bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved his life by trading
information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is the only one of many,
many equally mistreated POWs to methodically exploit his captivity
for career and political ends...who betrayed the crippled wife who had
patiently waited for him by courting a much-younger rich young cutie,
taking out a marriage license for her before divorcing his loyal
wife...who denounces his opponent as "elite" while he can't even
remember how many houses he owns.....who has voted 95% with the
bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment of our country here and
abroad...who said himself he doesn't know much about economics...who
voted consistently against the banking industry regulations that might
well have prevented economic collapse here and world-wide...who has
disgusted even his own Party by pandering to the radical religious
right...who has shown terrifyingly bad judgment by naming an
unqualified Vice President (who might become President) based on two
brief interviews and NO vetting by the FBI...in short, an unqualified
candidate for the Presidency he has hungered for all his life.

OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked with
and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds himself
with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the incumbent) to
bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our position in light
of world circumstances; who are instructed to disagree/argue when
necessary.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

This guy?

http://home.comcast.net/~frank.logullo/image002.gif

wrote in message
...
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

For some of the folks who inhabit this forum you might have been too subtle.
: )

"Charlie" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

For some of the folks who inhabit this forum you might have been too
subtle. : )
Me I likes that Obamer fella

Olddog

retired54 wrote:
"Charlie" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.
For some of the folks who inhabit this forum you might have been too
subtle. : )
Me I likes that Obamer fella

Olddog


If you're real old, you're gonna die soon so Pres BO won't matter

wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking his
father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended anybody
else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life, including
the military...who in Vietnam decided not to follow protocol and take
evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane, but proceeded to
bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved his life by trading
information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is the only one of many,
many equally mistreated POWs to methodically exploit his captivity
for career and political ends...who betrayed the crippled wife who had
patiently waited for him by courting a much-younger rich young cutie,
taking out a marriage license for her before divorcing his loyal
wife...who denounces his opponent as "elite" while he can't even
remember how many houses he owns.....who has voted 95% with the
bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment of our country here and
abroad...who said himself he doesn't know much about economics...who
voted consistently against the banking industry regulations that might
well have prevented economic collapse here and world-wide...who has
disgusted even his own Party by pandering to the radical religious
right...who has shown terrifyingly bad judgment by naming an
unqualified Vice President (who might become President) based on two
brief interviews and NO vetting by the FBI...in short, an unqualified
candidate for the Presidency he has hungered for all his life.

OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked with
and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds himself
with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the incumbent) to
bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our position in light
of world circumstances; who are instructed to disagree/argue when
necessary.




Gee. Let me think....

Which one is most likely to kill those who would do us harm? Who would send
their wives and children into the snow, their feet covered with blood-soaked
rags and the valleys echoing with the lamentations of their loved ones
begging for the succor of the grave and it being denied?

Gotta be McCain.

Some corrections and additions.

McCain owns ONE house (a duplex in Phoenix) and ONE car (his wife and her
company own several homes and several hundred vehicles). Obama, likewise,
owns one home in Chicago obtained with help from sources who shall not be
named.

As for voting against banking regulations, it was actually McCain who was a
co-sponsor of the Mae & Mac regulatory reform bill in 2005 (defeated by the
Democratic congress).

Regarding vetting by the FBI, the FBI does not vet presidential or
vice-presidential candidates. If it did, Obama, based on his associations,
would not even qualify for a security clearance.

McCain owns 21 pets: 4 dogs, 1 cat, 3 parakeets, and 13 fish. Obama has no
pets - especially dogs.

wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking his
father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended anybody
else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life, including
the military...who in Vietnam decided not to follow protocol and take
evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane, but proceeded to
bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved his life by trading
information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is the only one of many,
many equally mistreated POWs to methodically exploit his captivity
for career and political ends...who betrayed the crippled wife who had
patiently waited for him by courting a much-younger rich young cutie,
taking out a marriage license for her before divorcing his loyal
wife...who denounces his opponent as "elite" while he can't even
remember how many houses he owns.....who has voted 95% with the
bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment of our country here and
abroad...who said himself he doesn't know much about economics...who
voted consistently against the banking industry regulations that might
well have prevented economic collapse here and world-wide...who has
disgusted even his own Party by pandering to the radical religious
right...who has shown terrifyingly bad judgment by naming an
unqualified Vice President (who might become President) based on two
brief interviews and NO vetting by the FBI...in short, an unqualified
candidate for the Presidency he has hungered for all his life.

OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked with
and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds himself
with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the incumbent) to
bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our position in light
of world circumstances; who are instructed to disagree/argue when
necessary.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

I will take McCain rather than a racist who only left his white hating
church which he attended for twenty years, after it became a liability
to his political campaign. This says nothing about his hateful wife!!!!

yes, the choice IS clear. I'll take the first one you described.

s


wrote in message
...
... would you rather have:



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

Steve Barker DLT wrote:
yes, the choice IS clear. I'll take the first one you described.

s


wrote in message
...
... would you rather have:



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.



You mean the one who votes "present"?
He is unable to make a decision unless his staff of hundreds leads him along.
A world leader must make decisions. It's the most important thing about being a
leader.
He is also going to have to spend a lot of time paying back the folks or
corporations from overseas that donated millions to his coffers.

Chuck wrote:

Steve Barker DLT wrote:

yes, the choice IS clear. I'll take the first one you described.

s


wrote in message
...

... would you rather have:



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.




You mean the one who votes "present"?

Smart when you're aiming to be president or the rest of the yokels are
fubar.

He is unable to make a decision unless his staff of hundreds leads
him along.

Any moron can make a decision. Informed decisions might take a little
more effort. The
"bail out", a mad dash to keep the sky from falling, is one of the
worst. Dumbya made an
uninformed decision to go into Iraq, which any clown could have done.
The more I see of
McCain, the more alike to Bush he seems. A couple of party animals with
pathologic
testosterone levels. McCain survived POW? BFD! An animal might have,
and it
ain't qualification to be dog catcher or president. Clinton did far
better with one hand
tied behind his back. I suspect Dumbya has been curled up with a bottle
the past year
or two - why wait until hell breaks loose to send out the Sec. Treas. to
tell the world the
sky is falling?

A world leader must make decisions. It's the most important thing
about being a leader.
He is also going to have to spend a lot of time paying back the folks
or corporations from overseas that donated millions to his coffers.

My hobby of genealogy is easier thanks to FDR and the CCC .... all kinds
of records are compiled by CCC, apparently
a make-work project a tad better than soup lines.

As for Obama having "executive experience", I don't think McPalin have a
clue what it is. Military command is NOT
executive experience, because there is no choice as to whether to
follow. O'Bama put together multi-million $
org. than runs like the best corporations, nationwide, organized to
perfection and up to the moment in
responding. Wow! Iamsuspendingmycampaign McCain didn't know what in
heck to do and had to DO
SOMETHING! Answer: Give a stupid press release and get picture taken
"doing something". He
probably has enough money to hire a speech writer, but keeps spewing the
same tired, OLD, bs
half-truths. As for Obama being socialist, McCain has lived, cradle to
old age, on the gov't. support
and a far less than mediocre military career. So like Bush.

Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
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Get back to us when you prove that....


s


"Ron in NY" wrote in message
...
Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone
who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
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"Ron in NY" wrote in message
...
Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone
who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
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Cut the propaganda crap. It's been proven over and over that he's a citizen
and he's as much citizen as McCain who was born in Panama.

Ron in NY wrote:
Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
================================================== ======
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If Jesus of Nazareth would run as candidate for Messiah you would
probably receive an e-mail such as what follows.
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Warning to the concerned voters for the position of Messiah:

I am running for Messiah against Jesus. I may not be the perfect
candidate but there are a few questions about my opponent that need answers.

1. Jesus wants to be the Messiah of all Christians but he never was a
Christian. He is a Jew. He attended Jewish schools and has been seen in
the Hebrew temple.

2. It is a well known fact that he mingles with unrepentant thieves,
prostitutes and lepers. How can we know he is not indeed a thief with
leprosy and a penchant for prostitution?

3. He wants to be called Jesus the carpenter but has anyone ever seen
him hold a hammer?

4. Jesus fed large crowds with little bread and fish. He also can
resuscitate dead people: Is he actually a shaman?

5. And what can he tell us of that large unknown part of his life of
which nobody has any notion? We want some answers.

6. Jesus is too young and inexperienced to be a Messiah. He's lacking
the years and the wisdom of, say, Moses. Can you trust the salvation of
your soul to a young and untested Messiah?

7. Jesus claims to be the son of God, but his mother was married to
Joseph. Is he an impostor?

8. Jesus is originally from Nazareth in the West Bank. You know that
those latte-sipping, Volvo-driving yuppies in the West Bank cannot be
trusted.

9. Am I the only one to notice that the color of his skin is just a
shade lighter than other Jews? Makes you wonder if he really is a Jew.

10. Jesus keeps saying: "Let the little children come to me". Is he a
pedophile?

11. How can he explain being around all that wine?

12. Finally, Jesus is preaching that we'll have to share our wealth with
poor people, which proves once and for all that HE IS A COMMIE!

We cannot take the chance to have Jesus for Messiah. He claims he wants
change, but what's his real program?

If you agree with me, send this message to ten friends. Stay tuned on
RNC (Rabid Network Connection) for more on Jesus the Impostor.

On Nov 2, 6:56*pm, "Steve Barker DLT"
wrote:
Get back to us when you prove that....

s

"Ron in NY" wrote in ...



Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone
who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
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Kinda sounds like all the bull **** about Bush being AWOL doesn't it?
We have heard that crap for the last eight years...you can listen to
this for the next four.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken ]
Posted At: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:41 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: Whose finger on the nuclear button...
Subject: Whose finger on the nuclear button...

wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking his
father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended anybody
else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life, including
the military...who in Vietnam decided not to follow protocol and take
evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane, but proceeded to
bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved his life by trading
information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is the only one of many,
many equally mistreated POWs to methodically exploit his captivity
for career and political ends...who betrayed the crippled wife who had
patiently waited for him by courting a much-younger rich young cutie,
taking out a marriage license for her before divorcing his loyal
wife...who denounces his opponent as "elite" while he can't even
remember how many houses he owns.....who has voted 95% with the
bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment of our country here and
abroad...who said himself he doesn't know much about economics...who
voted consistently against the banking industry regulations that might
well have prevented economic collapse here and world-wide...who has
disgusted even his own Party by pandering to the radical religious
right...who has shown terrifyingly bad judgment by naming an
unqualified Vice President (who might become President) based on two
brief interviews and NO vetting by the FBI...in short, an unqualified
candidate for the Presidency he has hungered for all his life.

OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked with
and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds himself
with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the incumbent) to
bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our position in light
of world circumstances; who are instructed to disagree/argue when
necessary.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

I will take McCain rather than a racist who only left his white hating
church which he attended for twenty years, after it became a liability
to his political campaign. This says nothing about his hateful wife!!!!

===================================
Have you heard the Man-On-The-Street interviews in Harlem yet?
It's scary to realize the reality of it.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp:...pload/hs_sal_i
n_Harlem_100108.mp3

Since Obama has been "American Idol preened" by his Hollywood promoters
to set a 'feel good' agenda of 'Peace, Hope, Love and Unity'....I'm
waiting for some of that warm 'n fuzzy stuff to show itself in his
supporters. When will they start practicing it in their daily
encounters? I hear more fighting, ugly, hateful and divisionary
attitudes instead.

Perhaps it's something he will later instruct them in [while not
honoring our country's flag on his airplane (by designing his own 'flag'
logo) or failing to put his hand over his heart??....or probably when he
changes our National Anthem to "I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing In
Perfect Harmony". Yeah, that will promote 'unity' and 'change'
alright.....lot's of change.

Fair warning to Obama voters....you will be expected to display a higher
standard of your peace, hope, love, love, love and unity intentions, as
proud examples of his success, should he win.

Blaaalack Oblama is hardly Jesus..... get real


s


"Chris" wrote in message ...

Steve Barker DLT wrote:
Blaaalack Oblama is hardly Jesus..... get real


s
...and that in fact, was not my point. but obviously also this is too
subtle for you to grasp

wrote in message
OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)...

I'll take the first guy. I know what he is. The second guy is too much
like a slick snake oil salesman and I don't trust him one teeny little bit.

-----Original Message-----
From: SteffanKing ]
Posted At: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:20 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: Whose finger on the nuclear button...
Subject: Whose finger on the nuclear button...

"Coleah" wrote in
news:7BAACE4055F9491CA7305A034C8EEFC5@MomsNewCompu ter:



-----Original Message-----
From: Ken ]
Posted At: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:41 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: Whose finger on the nuclear button...
Subject: Whose finger on the nuclear button...

wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking
his father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended
anybody else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life,
including the military...who in Vietnam decided not to follow
protocol and take evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane,
but proceeded to bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved
his life by trading information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is
the only one of many, many equally mistreated POWs to methodically
exploit his captivity for career and political ends...who betrayed
the crippled wife who had patiently waited for him by courting a
much-younger rich young cutie, taking out a marriage license for her
before divorcing his loyal wife...who denounces his opponent as
"elite" while he can't even remember how many houses he owns.....who
has voted 95% with the bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment
of our country here and abroad...who said himself he doesn't know
much about economics...who voted consistently against the banking
industry regulations that might well have prevented economic collapse
here and world-wide...who has disgusted even his own Party by
pandering to the radical religious right...who has shown terrifyingly
bad judgment by naming an unqualified Vice President (who might
become President) based on two brief interviews and NO vetting by the
FBI...in short, an unqualified candidate for the Presidency he has
hungered for all his life.

OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked
with and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds
himself with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the
incumbent) to bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our
position in light of world circumstances; who are instructed to
disagree/argue when necessary.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

I will take McCain rather than a racist who only left his white
hating
church which he attended for twenty years, after it became a liability
to his political campaign. This says nothing about his hateful
wife!!!!

===================================
Have you heard the Man-On-The-Street interviews in Harlem yet?
It's scary to realize the reality of it.....


http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp:...upload/hs_sal_
i n_Harlem_100108.mp3

Since Obama has been "American Idol preened" by his Hollywood
promoters to set a 'feel good' agenda of 'Peace, Hope, Love and
Unity'....I'm waiting for some of that warm 'n fuzzy stuff to show
itself in his supporters. When will they start practicing it in their
daily encounters? I hear more fighting, ugly, hateful and divisionary
attitudes instead.

Perhaps it's something he will later instruct them in [while not
honoring our country's flag on his airplane (by designing his own
'flag' logo) or failing to put his hand over his heart??....or
probably when he changes our National Anthem to "I'd Like To Teach The
World To Sing In Perfect Harmony". Yeah, that will promote 'unity'
and 'change' alright.....lot's of change.

Fair warning to Obama voters....you will be expected to display a
higher standard of your peace, hope, love, love, love and unity
intentions, as proud examples of his success, should he win.



McCain likes the KKK.

------------------------
???????????
Did THAT come from Peace, Hope, Love and Unity?
Sheesh.

On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:51:11 GMT, (Ron in
NY) wrote:

Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
================================================= =======
Remove the ZZZ from my E-mail address to send me E-mail.

That was his father. Obama was born in Hawaii. Last time I looked
that was one of the 50 US states.

On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:57:41 -0800 (PST), BobR
wrote:

On Nov 2, 6:56*pm, "Steve Barker DLT"
wrote:
Get back to us when you prove that....

s

"Ron in NY" wrote in ...



Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone
who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
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Kinda sounds like all the bull **** about Bush being AWOL doesn't it?
We have heard that crap for the last eight years...you can listen to
this for the next four.

Unfortunately, the AWOL charge is true. But, like McCain whose Daddy
covered for him, Bush's Daddy did the same.

Interesting how the McCain apologists can manage to
address anything, however trivial and irrelevant, about his
opponent, rather than deal with the core issue making McCain
unfit to serve: His lifelong reckless instability. Look again
at the Subject.

On Nov 2, 6:41*pm, Ken wrote:
wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled *"hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking his
father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ *person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy *after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended anybody
else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life, including
the military...who in Vietnam decided not *to follow protocol and take
evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane, but *proceeded to
bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved his life by trading
information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is the only one of many,
many equally mistreated *POWs to methodically exploit his captivity
for career and political ends...who betrayed the crippled wife who had
patiently waited for him by courting a much-younger rich young cutie,
taking out a marriage license for her before divorcing his loyal
wife...who denounces his opponent as "elite" while he can't even
remember how many houses he owns.....who has voted 95% with the
bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment of our country here and
abroad...who said himself he doesn't know much about economics...who
voted consistently against the banking industry regulations that might
well have prevented economic collapse here and world-wide...who has
disgusted even his own Party by pandering to the radical religious
right...who has shown terrifyingly bad judgment by *naming an
unqualified Vice President (who might become President) based on two
brief interviews and NO vetting by the FBI...in short, an unqualified
candidate for the Presidency he has hungered for all his life.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *OR * * *

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked with
and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds himself
with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the incumbent) to
bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our position in light
of world circumstances; who are instructed to disagree/argue when
necessary.

As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

* * * * I will take McCain rather than a racist who only left his white hating
church which he attended for twenty years, after it became a liability
to his political campaign. *This says nothing about his hateful wife!!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

yeah, the fact that he stayed in that church for 20 years proves he
is a muslim. the fact that mccain never goes to church proves he is a
christian.

On Nov 2, 6:41*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled *"hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking his
father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ *person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy *after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended anybody
else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life, including
the military...who in Vietnam decided not *to follow protocol and take
evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane, but *proceeded to
bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved his life by trading
information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is the only one of many,
many equally mistreated *POWs to methodically exploit his captivity
for career and political ends...who betrayed the crippled wife who had
patiently waited for him by courting a much-younger rich young cutie,
taking out a marriage license for her before divorcing his loyal
wife...who denounces his opponent as "elite" while he can't even
remember how many houses he owns.....who has voted 95% with the
bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment of our country here and
abroad...who said himself he doesn't know much about economics...who
voted consistently against the banking industry regulations that might
well have prevented economic collapse here and world-wide...who has
disgusted even his own Party by pandering to the radical religious
right...who has shown terrifyingly bad judgment by *naming an
unqualified Vice President (who might become President) based on two
brief interviews and NO vetting by the FBI...in short, an unqualified
candidate for the Presidency he has hungered for all his life.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked with
and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds himself
with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the incumbent) to
bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our position in light
of world circumstances; who are instructed to disagree/argue when
necessary.

Gee. Let me think....

Which one is most likely to kill those who would do us harm? Who would send
their wives and children into the snow, their feet covered with blood-soaked
rags and the valleys echoing with the lamentations of their loved ones
begging for the succor of the grave and it being denied?

Gotta be McCain.

Some corrections and additions.

McCain owns ONE house (a duplex in Phoenix) and ONE car (his wife and her
company own several homes and several hundred vehicles). Obama, likewise,
owns one home in Chicago obtained with help from sources who shall not be
named.

As for voting against banking regulations, it was actually McCain who was a
co-sponsor of the Mae & Mac regulatory reform bill in 2005 (defeated by the
Democratic congress).

Regarding vetting by the FBI, the FBI does not vet presidential or
vice-presidential candidates. If it did, Obama, based on his associations,
would not even qualify for a security clearance.

McCain owns 21 pets: 4 dogs, 1 cat, 3 parakeets, and 13 fish. Obama has no
pets - especially dogs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

clinton got impeached for getting a blowjob from a bimbo; mccain
actually put one on the ticket.

On Nov 3, 2:03*am, wrote:
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:57:41 -0800 (PST), BobR





wrote:
On Nov 2, 6:56*pm, "Steve Barker DLT"
wrote:
Get back to us when you prove that....

s

"Ron in NY" wrote in .. .

Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone
who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
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Remove the ZZZ from my E-mail address to send me E-mail.- Hide quoted text -

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Kinda sounds like all the bull **** about Bush being AWOL doesn't it?
We have heard that crap for the last eight years...you can listen to
this for the next four.

Unfortunately, the AWOL charge is true. *But, like McCain whose Daddy
covered for him, Bush's Daddy did the same.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

hell, he's awol from the presidency right now. it's just that
everybody thinks that's best all around.

On Nov 2, 9:24*pm, Chris wrote:
Steve Barker DLT wrote:
Blaaalack Oblama is hardly Jesus..... *get real

s

..and that in fact, was not my point. but obviously also this is too
subtle for you to grasp

you can add one more to the email:

13: Jesus is hardly Jesus.

On Nov 3, 2:01*am, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:51:11 GMT, (Ron in

NY) wrote:
Obama was born in Kenya---He is not eligible to be president--ONLY someone who
was born in the US or one of its' territories is eligible.
================================================= =======
Remove the ZZZ from my E-mail address to send me E-mail.

That was his father. *Obama was born in Hawaii. *Last time I looked
that was one of the 50 US states.

if he was born in kenya, wouldn't his mother have to have been there
at the time? anybody able to provide any evidence of her being there
then? hnmm?

On Nov 2, 9:39*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote in message
* * * * * * * * * * * * * OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)...

I'll take the first guy. *I know what he is. *The second guy is too much
like a slick snake oil salesman and I don't trust him one teeny little bit.

clipped


hell, he's awol from the presidency right now. it's just that
everybody thinks that's best all around.


AWOL during Katrina, just like daddy was AWOL during Andrew and Jebbie was
AWOL in 2000 election. Traitors, IMO.

"Norminn" wrote in message
m...
clipped


hell, he's awol from the presidency right now. it's just that
everybody thinks that's best all around.

AWOL during Katrina, just like daddy was AWOL during Andrew and Jebbie was
AWOL in 2000 election. Traitors, IMO.

Yes, Bush could have stopped the storm by Presidential decree. It was a
republican storm in the first place.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Norminn" wrote in message
om...


clipped



hell, he's awol from the presidency right now. it's just that
everybody thinks that's best all around.



AWOL during Katrina, just like daddy was AWOL during Andrew and Jebbie was
AWOL in 2000 election. Traitors, IMO.



Yes, Bush could have stopped the storm by Presidential decree. It was a
republican storm in the first place.




Of course he could not have stopped the storm. Took what, a month,
before he paid attention
and sent in relief?

-----Original Message-----
From: SteffanKing ]
Posted At: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:49 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: Whose finger on the nuclear button...
Subject: Whose finger on the nuclear button...

"Coleah" wrote in
news:CA85CD0C68B445B3A7D4EFD421D883A1@MomsNewCompu ter:



-----Original Message-----
From: SteffanKing ]
Posted At: Sunday, November 02, 2008 9:20 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: Whose finger on the nuclear button...
Subject: Whose finger on the nuclear button...

"Coleah" wrote in
news:7BAACE4055F9491CA7305A034C8EEFC5@MomsNewCompu ter:



-----Original Message-----
From: Ken ]
Posted At: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:41 PM
Posted To: alt.home.repair
Conversation: Whose finger on the nuclear button...
Subject: Whose finger on the nuclear button...

wrote:
... would you rather have:

A reckless, impulsive, unstable (labeled "hot-tempered" by his own
peers; refused a Navy command as "unfit to command") poorly-educated
man born to wealth and position, whose whole life has been seeking
his father and grandfather's approval....who made it into the Naval
Academy on family connections... who graduated fifth from the bottom
of a 900+ person class...who managed through the same Daddy
connections to avoid getting thrown out out of the Academy after
crashing several planes (one in a stunt) that would have ended
anybody else's career...who drank and wenched his way through life,
including the military...who in Vietnam decided not to follow
protocol and take evasive action when a SAM locked onto his plane,
but proceeded to bomb the target -- and got shot down...who saved
his life by trading information to the enemy for FIVE years...who is
the only one of many, many equally mistreated POWs to methodically
exploit his captivity for career and political ends...who betrayed
the crippled wife who had patiently waited for him by courting a
much-younger rich young cutie, taking out a marriage license for her
before divorcing his loyal wife...who denounces his opponent as
"elite" while he can't even remember how many houses he owns.....who
has voted 95% with the bought-and -sold incumbent, to the detriment
of our country here and abroad...who said himself he doesn't know
much about economics...who voted consistently against the banking
industry regulations that might well have prevented economic
collapse
here and world-wide...who has disgusted even his own Party by
pandering to the radical religious right...who has shown
terrifyingly
bad judgment by naming an unqualified Vice President (who might
become President) based on two brief interviews and NO vetting by
the
FBI...in short, an unqualified candidate for the Presidency he has
hungered for all his life.

OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)... a
biracial
man who has made his way up NOT by family connections but
on pure talent, carefully making his way around the still-powerful
racial barriers to success...who is happily married not to a rich
dish, but to a strong professional woman who made her own way up...
who is the involved parent of two young children...who has worked
with and for the common people all his life...a man who surrounds
himself with advisers who are specifically tasked (unlike the
incumbent) to bring him all sides of a question; to elucidate our
position in light of world circumstances; who are instructed to
disagree/argue when necessary.



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

I will take McCain rather than a racist who only left his white
hating
church which he attended for twenty years, after it became a
liability
to his political campaign. This says nothing about his hateful
wife!!!!

===================================
Have you heard the Man-On-The-Street interviews in Harlem yet?
It's scary to realize the reality of it.....



http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp:...upload/hs_sal_
i n_Harlem_100108.mp3

Since Obama has been "American Idol preened" by his Hollywood
promoters to set a 'feel good' agenda of 'Peace, Hope, Love and
Unity'....I'm waiting for some of that warm 'n fuzzy stuff to show
itself in his supporters. When will they start practicing it in
their
daily encounters? I hear more fighting, ugly, hateful and
divisionary
attitudes instead.

Perhaps it's something he will later instruct them in [while not
honoring our country's flag on his airplane (by designing his own
'flag' logo) or failing to put his hand over his heart??....or
probably when he changes our National Anthem to "I'd Like To Teach
The
World To Sing In Perfect Harmony". Yeah, that will promote 'unity'
and 'change' alright.....lot's of change.

Fair warning to Obama voters....you will be expected to display a
higher standard of your peace, hope, love, love, love and unity
intentions, as proud examples of his success, should he win.



McCain likes the KKK.

------------------------
???????????
Did THAT come from Peace, Hope, Love and Unity?
Sheesh.






GWB said it.
??????????????
Resource please.


..

Good one! Thanks, I needed the smile.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Frank" wrote in message
...



As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

This guy?

http://home.comcast.net/~frank.logullo/image002.gif

Maybe not vote for the Muslim guy who plans to redistribute the wealth of
the nation?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Ken" wrote in message
...
wrote:

As a results-oriented voter who researches carefully and who is
not given to baseless prejudice, my choice is clear.

I will take McCain rather than a racist who only left his white hating
church which he attended for twenty years, after it became a liability
to his political campaign. This says nothing about his hateful wife!!!!

"Norminn" wrote in message
Of course he could not have stopped the storm. Took what, a month, before
he paid attention
and sent in relief?

Sure, there were many problems but was it actually Bush? When was the
latest plan actually put into effect for hurricane preparedness for the
larges storm in decades? Could go back to Nixon for all we know. These
things are taken care of by staff and underlings, not the President no
matter who happens to hold that position at the time of the storm.

"z" wrote in message
...
On Nov 2, 9:39 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
wrote in message
OR

A cool, calm, patient, very well-educated (PhD in international
relations; taught Constitutional Law at one of the best universities
in the country (full disclosu I am a U of C alumg)...

I'll take the first guy. I know what he is. The second guy is too much
like a slick snake oil salesman and I don't trust him one teeny little
bit.

wouldn't it be smarter for all the folks who voted for bush to vote
AGAINST the candidate they like this time?

Then we should vote for Nader? I'm thinking maybe I'll vote Libertarian
this time around.

Impeachment by the House of Representatives

Impeachment proceedings were initiated during the post-election, "lame duck"
session of the outgoing 105th Congress.

Upon the passage of H. Res. 611, Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998,
by the House of Representatives on grounds of
perjury to a grand jury (by a 228-206 vote) and
obstruction of justice (by a 221-212 vote).
Two other articles of impeachment failed - a second count of perjury and
one accusing Clinton of abuse of power.


--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"z" wrote in message
...

McCain owns 21 pets: 4 dogs, 1 cat, 3 parakeets, and 13 fish. Obama has no
pets - especially dogs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

clinton got impeached for getting a blowjob from a bimbo; mccain
actually put one on the ticket.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"Norminn" wrote in message


Of course he could not have stopped the storm. Took what, a month, before
he paid attention
and sent in relief?



Sure, there were many problems but was it actually Bush? When was the
latest plan actually put into effect for hurricane preparedness for the
larges storm in decades? Could go back to Nixon for all we know. These
things are taken care of by staff and underlings, not the President no
matter who happens to hold that position at the time of the storm.




Staff and underlings for Cat. 5 hurricane? National guard, disaster
declaration, Army? It was
August, 1992, GHW Bush.

On Nov 2, 6:41*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:

McCain owns 21 pets: 4 dogs, 1 cat, 3 parakeets, and 13 fish. Obama has no
pets - especially dogs.

You might just as well say, "Obama has no pets - especially sabretooth
tigers".

Zero is zero.

Cindy Hamilton