Has anyone made a homemade bagging system for the rider? I was
thinking about that and trying to rig up something. I have sdeen
lawn care people with baggers that look to be made from a plastic
garbage can. Any ideas and or pics would be appreciated.

http://www.meijer.com/catalog/produc...roductId=42982
Is what I have A ground driven sweeper Why would need any thing more then this works just fine pickup up grass clippings, leaves,sticks etc
48" model sweeps the tire tracks gives the lawn a nice look

Spud

wrote in message ...
Has anyone made a homemade bagging system for the rider? I was
thinking about that and trying to rig up something. I have sdeen
lawn care people with baggers that look to be made from a plastic
garbage can. Any ideas and or pics would be appreciated.

On Nov 2, 3:19 am, "spud42" wrote:
http://www.meijer.com/catalog/produc...roductId=42982
Is what I have A ground driven sweeper Why would need any thing more then this works just fine pickup up grass clippings, leaves,sticks etc
48" model sweeps the tire tracks gives the lawn a nice look

" ground driven sweeper "
That is likely a more elegant solution, I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.
I too bought a sweeper and just make a second pass rather than mow
with it. The remains of the sweeper make a nice bucket hanger for
other chores though.

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Has anyone made a homemade bagging system for the rider? I was
thinking about that and trying to rig up something. I have sdeen
lawn care people with baggers that look to be made from a plastic
garbage can. Any ideas and or pics would be appreciated.

I bought a bagger for my Craftsman mower. It works well and was worth the
money after changing the all-purpose blades to high lift blades.
For leaf patrol I tow a utility trailer with home made cap behind the mower
and blow the grass/leaves into it. I made the cap from scrap plywood and
some expanded metal.



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Eric in North TX wrote:
....
...I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.

Have (and have had) several...while somewhat true about the added size
(pretty much inevitable to obtain the functionality), they have and do
work quite satisfactorily.

The particular versions are JD rear mount. The only one I have any
complaint about hasn't anything to do w/ how well it functions but
simply an ease of use issue--they went to a plastic pipe insert into a
plastic fitting at the bagger end. When it gets dirt built up, the
tolerances are such it's a pita to get in/out -- that's not needed
often, but does make the occasional cleanout of a plugup more of a chore
than necessary. I modified one by shortening the insert end
significantly and added a soft gasket (piece of inner tube) pop-riveted
around the opening. The older style used a square opening w/ a rubber
seal arrangement that is much handier although not quite as air-tight.

Home brew would be doable but a working version would be a fair amount
of effort; not sure worth the effort (altho they are pretty pricey for
no more than they actually are, altho again, worth it for the
functionality imo). Particularly leaf season if in area that doesn't
stay perpetually wet is much handier, especially if have large dumpster
or other place to simply empty into.

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On Nov 2, 9:51 am, dpb wrote:
Eric in North TX wrote:
...

...I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.

Have (and have had) several...while somewhat true about the added size
(pretty much inevitable to obtain the functionality), they have and do
work quite satisfactorily.
It really depends on the lawn, I have lots of trees, and you can get
pretty close if you bob and weave with your torso, and mulch out from
the trunk a couple feet, but the discharge side is just useless with a
bagger, + even with the giant setup with 3 bags, it seems to be a
constant chore to empty them. Still we used them for years, mainly to
gain compost and for weed control.

Eric in North TX wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:51 am, dpb wrote:
Eric in North TX wrote:
...

...I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.
Have (and have had) several...while somewhat true about the added size
(pretty much inevitable to obtain the functionality), they have and do
work quite satisfactorily.
....
... but the discharge side is just useless with a bagger, ...

Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

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"dpb" wrote in message ...
Eric in North TX wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:51 am, dpb wrote:
Eric in North TX wrote:
...

...I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.
Have (and have had) several...while somewhat true about the added size
(pretty much inevitable to obtain the functionality), they have and do
work quite satisfactorily.
...
... but the discharge side is just useless with a bagger, ...

Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

Yep, I have a trailer bagger garbage can type following a JD 48 inch cut
GT262 and it is all in the mowing strategy. All precision cuts are done on
the left side, no problem.
Tomes

On Nov 2, 11:58 pm, "Tomes" wrote:
"dpb" wrote in ...
Eric in North TX wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:51 am, dpb wrote:
Eric in North TX wrote:
...

...I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.
Have (and have had) several...while somewhat true about the added size
(pretty much inevitable to obtain the functionality), they have and do
work quite satisfactorily.
...
... but the discharge side is just useless with a bagger, ...

Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

Yep, I have a trailer bagger garbage can type following a JD 48 inch cut
GT262 and it is all in the mowing strategy. All precision cuts are done on
the left side, no problem.
Tomes

do you have pics and where did you get the pipe for the deckm abd how
did you attach to deck?

...
"Tomes" :
"dpb" ...
Eric in North TX wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:51 am, dpb wrote:
Eric in North TX wrote:
...I've had riders with baggers;
and they were bulky & hampered maneuverability + didn't really work
that well.
Have (and have had) several...while somewhat true about the added
size
(pretty much inevitable to obtain the functionality), they have and
do
work quite satisfactorily.
...
... but the discharge side is just useless with a bagger, ...

Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from
obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

Yep, I have a trailer bagger garbage can type following a JD 48 inch cut
GT262 and it is all in the mowing strategy. All precision cuts are done
on
the left side, no problem.
Tomes

do you have pics and where did you get the pipe for the deckm abd how
did you attach to deck?

Slight misunderstanding here. I did not make this, I bought it. Look up
TracVac
http://www.trac-vac.com/index_files/Model452.htm
This is either the one I have or it is similar. I bought it about 12 years
ago and it still does the job fine, no worries. I just needed to replace
the hose once as they eventually crack. They have many models of various
sizes.

See, I thought about making one then too. I had my visions of using a boxed
trailer with the high lift blades whisking the stuff up into the box and
then dumping it all at once into the pile. The trouble is that when I
really researched it out I discovered that there was not enough power to get
the stuff all the way to the top of the box - it is a long way against
gravity for stuff that is heavy, unless one goes at the pace of the amoeba.
So I would need an interim impeller to give it the extra boost. That's
gotta be mounted and aligned somehow. Then I need the extra hoses for all
that length. If one does not use steel reinforced hose it will not last
long at all and will rip exactly when one does not need it to. Even with
the good hose that comes with the bought unit it rips in between the ribbing
and I duct tape it up. Then there is the big box. If it is too big it
becomes unmanageable. That garbage can turns out to be a reasonable size
that I can handle, yet holds a significant amount.

So I ended up just buying one that is well thought out and robust through
the JD dealer.

If you do make this (and I wish you well for it), The JD or Simplicity
dealers have the hose, but it is expensive (I believe over 10 bucks a
foot?). They can sell you the adapter that fits your deck exactly and for
safety I at least recommend that as there are a lot of forces involved at
that point and you do not want it to blow off and have the metal flying
around.
My US$0.02,
Tomes

Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

The groves and orchards are more important than the mowing ease, so
the layout will not be changed to suit mowing patterns.
When you are mowing 50' X100' it is a lot different than mowing acres
of trees.

Eric in North Texas wrote:
Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

The groves and orchards are more important than the mowing ease, so
the layout will not be changed to suit mowing patterns.
When you are mowing 50' X100' it is a lot different than mowing acres
of trees.

It's both...mowing 20A here around the farm outbuildings, lots, etc.,
but certainly don't bag outside the yard around the house itself (but
it's a couple A or so)...

But if it's actual production orchard, layout w/ maintenance in mind
originally would have been the trick.

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"dpb" ...
Eric in North Texas:
Well, you simply have to use them as intended. You go 'round obstacles
from the non-discharge side, obviously.

Two rounds clockwise clears the bagger discharge/chute from obstructions
such as fences/hedges/house, whatever; then lay out the lands as
appropriate for counter-clockwise mowing.

Excess stuff in the way of mowing needs fixing, anyway, bagger or not.

The groves and orchards are more important than the mowing ease, so
the layout will not be changed to suit mowing patterns.
When you are mowing 50' X100' it is a lot different than mowing acres
of trees.

It's both...mowing 20A here around the farm outbuildings, lots, etc., but
certainly don't bag outside the yard around the house itself (but it's a
couple A or so)...

But if it's actual production orchard, layout w/ maintenance in mind
originally would have been the trick.

Yep the trees will not move. Still, mow in a pattern so that the cutting in
is on the left side. No problem.
Tomes