Hi,

Here's what the ceiling of my kitchen looks like now:

http://freeboundaries.com/howtoframe.jpg

I'm planning on having a ceiling that slopes with the roof, then drops
straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Aaron

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Aaron Fude wrote:

Hi,

Here's what the ceiling of my kitchen looks like now:

http://freeboundaries.com/howtoframe.jpg

I'm planning on having a ceiling that slopes with the roof, then drops
straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Aaron

Holy crap. I'm going to keep that picture to show to people when they
complain about the magnitude of their home improvement projects. What is
that, a converted bomb shelter you live in?!

If you only need to support drywall, I'd trust construction adhesive to
hold the studs to the I-beams. Or, you could take a clue from those
vertical members you have. Glue a 2 x 4 along the ledge formed by the
beam, then nail a 2 x 6 to it with flush upper surfaces. Then the lower
surface of your 2 x 6 is available for drywall nailing.

Aaron Fude wrote:
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straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Just box around them using the upper roof joist as the hanger. Or, is
the roof being held up by those blocks wedged into the flange rather
than being bolted to the rock wall above? If so, that should be fixed
first by bolting thru or welding on some bolting flanges or using
approved flange clamps. If it were mine, I'd probably opt for welding
on some angle brackets for bolting to.

What's that beam supporting our of curiousity?

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On Oct 19, 1:37*pm, dpb wrote:
Aaron Fude wrote:

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straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Just box around them using the upper roof joist as the hanger. *Or, is
the roof being held up by those blocks wedged into the flange rather
than being bolted to the rock wall above? *If so, that should be fixed
first by bolting thru or welding on some bolting flanges or using
approved flange clamps. *If it were mine, I'd probably opt for welding
on some angle brackets for bolting to.

What's that beam supporting our of curiousity?

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Thanks for the advice.

The beam or, more accurately, set of five beams is supporting an 18"
thick granite wall above. The construction is 80 years old.

You are not saying that the magnitude of the *framing* job is great,
are you?

I think those planks are suppoting the roof in some way, but that
seams awefully wishy-washy.

It would be most common to drill the flanges for carriage bolts to
hold a piece of ply or lumber. The other common method would use
PAT - powder actuated fasteners to shoot lumber onto the steel
flanges.

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"Aaron Fude" wrote in message
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Hi,

Here's what the ceiling of my kitchen looks like now:

http://freeboundaries.com/howtoframe.jpg

I'm planning on having a ceiling that slopes with the roof, then
drops
straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the
beams.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Aaron

"DanG" wrote in message
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It would be most common to drill the flanges for carriage bolts to hold a
piece of ply or lumber. The other common method would use PAT - powder
actuated fasteners to shoot lumber onto the steel flanges.

I agree...

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"Aaron Fude" wrote in message
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Hi,

Here's what the ceiling of my kitchen looks like now:

http://freeboundaries.com/howtoframe.jpg

I'm planning on having a ceiling that slopes with the roof, then drops
straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Aaron

On Oct 19, 12:05*pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

Here's what the ceiling of my kitchen looks like now:

http://freeboundaries.com/howtoframe.jpg

I'm planning on having a ceiling that slopes with the roof, then drops
straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Aaron

You have wood on both sides of the steel so I'd just bridge across the
steel and drop verticals on 16 inch centers from that header against
the rock wall. But if you need that rock to show (it does look nice),
you can still bridge across the bottom of the steel. Then lay another
wood header on the top shelf of steel just UNDER the rock and glued
and anchored to the rock, the force will be all downward not outward
anyway for that top header. Then go down from that header with studs
to catch the other side of the bottom bridge which comes off the
ceiing joists on the other side.

On Oct 20, 11:06*am, RickH wrote:
On Oct 19, 12:05*pm, Aaron Fude wrote:

Hi,

Here's what the ceiling of my kitchen looks like now:

http://freeboundaries.com/howtoframe.jpg

I'm planning on having a ceiling that slopes with the roof, then drops
straight down and goes around the beams. What's the strategy for
framing something like that since I can't nail studs to the beams.

Thanks a lot in advance,

Aaron

You have wood on both sides of the steel so I'd just bridge across the
steel and drop verticals on 16 inch centers from that header against
the rock wall. *But if you need that rock to show (it does look nice),
you can still bridge across the bottom of the steel. *Then lay another
wood header on the top shelf of steel just UNDER the rock and glued
and anchored to the rock, the force will be all downward not outward
anyway for that top header. *Then go down from that header with studs
to catch the other side of the bottom bridge which comes off the
ceiing joists on the other side.

Hi,

What exactly is flange in the context of carriage bolts?

Thanks,

Aaron