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Scarifier vs Verticutter vs Dethatcher (was: Less lawn, more ants)
Bob wrote:
look up verticutter Seems to me that in the UK, scarifiers are a common product to be found for sale at the average lawn/garden store (ie the eqivalent to Home Depot or Lowes) but in Canada (probably US too) all you will see (seasonally) for sale are lawn mowers and snow blowers. Does anyone know for sure is a scarifier is the same as a verticutter (verticle cutter), and is either of them also known as a de-thatcher? Examples: AL-KO 3800VB Powerline Petrol Lawn Scarifier: http://www.mower-magic.co.uk/acatalo...l_Aerator.html Honda GX160 Petrol Verticutter: http://www.camon.co.uk/Verticutter.htm Dethatcher (pictures): http://www.landscape-america.com/pro.../dethatch.html http://www.veseys.com/ca/en/store/ma...lawndethatcher Then we have other types of equipment: Billy Goat CR550H 5hp Honda Compact Power Rake http://www.cairnsmowercity.com/prod559.htm Billy Goat AE551 5.5hp Core Lawn Aerator http://www.cairnsmowercity.com/prod551.htm ----------------- Earlier this spring I was looking for an all-in-one machine that would be used primarily in the spring, and it would do the following or have the following capabilities: - gas powered, 5 to 10 hp - push or walk behind (not ride on) - important feature is that it's a high suction vaccum cleaner with large canister recepticle - vacuum deck contains brushes, knives, blades, wires, or some other spinning, whirling mechanism that can beat the ground and dislodge loose debris for the vacuum to pick up (like a beater bar on a vacuum cleaner). Minimal harm to grass. Uses: - pick up gravel, sand, pea-sized stones or small broken bits of asphalt on driveways, small parking lots, or the roadway in front of your house in the spring that was left behind by winter road dammage and sand/gravel put down by road maintanence vehicles during the winter. - clean the lawn in the spring of all the various loose organic debris, leaf and twig fragments (etc) that even a lawn mower with a bag and with the deck set low to the ground will not pick up. - grind up (to an extent beyond what a lawn mower would do) and pick up leaves in the fall. Cost: Between $500 and $750 USD. Is there such a machine? |
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Scarifier vs Verticutter vs Dethatcher
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
If you're constantly beating the ground with "brushes, knives, blades, wires, or some other spinning, whirling mechanism", how the hell do you expect to do "minimal harm to grass"? Well, since there are things called "scarifiers" and "verticutters" and aerators that apparently do beat or cut or slice into the ground, with the goal of working the top layer without chewing up the grass too badly, then I'd say that it shouldn't be too hard to dislodge and remove loose **** on the ground and between the grass blades without chewing up the grass too much. Doesn't your street department clean your street? Yea - halfway through the summer. And they don't clean my 5000 sq.ft. commercial office parking lot. Do you really expect a machine that you've used all year to grind gravel, sand, stones, broken asphalt, etc, to still have the capabilities to mulch leaves Sure, with an appropriate quick-change of internal components. AND: Cost: Between $500 and $750 USD. Anything's possible if it's made in China. LMAO. You're a ****ing idiot. You're a ****ing ass wipe. |
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Scarifier vs Verticutter vs Dethatcher
On Oct 19, 1:21*pm, Lawn Guy wrote:
Eggs Zachtly wrote: If you're constantly beating the ground with "brushes, knives, blades, wires, or some other spinning, whirling mechanism", how the hell do you expect to do "minimal harm to grass"? Well, since there are things called "scarifiers" and "verticutters" and aerators that apparently do beat or cut or slice into the ground, with the goal of working the top layer without chewing up the grass too badly, then I'd say that it shouldn't be too hard to dislodge and remove loose **** on the ground and between the grass blades without chewing up the grass too much. Doesn't your street department clean your street? Yea - halfway through the summer. * And they don't clean my 5000 sq.ft. commercial office parking lot. Do you really expect a machine that you've used all year to grind gravel, sand, stones, broken asphalt, etc, to still have the capabilities to mulch leaves Sure, with an appropriate quick-change of internal components. AND: Cost: *Between $500 and $750 USD. Anything's possible if it's made in China. LMAO. You're a ****ing idiot. You're a ****ing ass wipe. Youb have totally different pieces of equipment all confused as one item under different names. A scarifier is used to score or scarify hard pan soils and break it up. Dooes not really work all that well for aeration as it destroys too much surface area and pulls up roots etc. An aerator is simply a device thatpoles elongated holes slots or a round rod or tapered blade into the soil to allow water and air infusion. It does not remove dead grasses nor does it break up the soil it merely pierces the ground foro water and air infusion. A dethatcher is just that, usually a stiff spring that scrubs along the ground betweenthe tufts of grass that pulls up and deposits dead and cut and built up grass and other debri onthe surface where its raked and gathered up and hauled off to compost pile or trash. I may scratch the soil surface a small amount but not enough to do any damage to roots or disturb the soil as it is mainly intended and designed to loosen up and bring tot he top the packed in grass clippings etc. Never heard of a verticutter. FOr an already established lawn or redoing an establisehd lawmn all you need is an aerator and dethatcher. ONly need a scarifier i fyour breaking up hard pan to plant whatever initially, similar to a disk harow but it does not go as deep and its usually much smaller in width covered as well. Although the scarifiers on the backs of bulldozers and largher ag type tractors usualy consist of one or two huge long teeth that is drug into the soil to break up the hard pan to deeper depths than most harrows will go. It takes decent hoprsepower to pull a scarifier, where a dethatcher or aerator takes minimal power |
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Scarifier vs Verticutter vs Dethatcher (was: Less lawn, more ants)
"Lawn Guy" wrote in message ... Bob wrote: look up verticutter Seems to me that in the UK, scarifiers are a common product to be found for sale at the average lawn/garden store (ie the eqivalent to Home Depot or Lowes) but in Canada (probably US too) all you will see (seasonally) for sale are lawn mowers and snow blowers. Does anyone know for sure is a scarifier is the same as a verticutter (verticle cutter), and is either of them also known as a de-thatcher? Examples: AL-KO 3800VB Powerline Petrol Lawn Scarifier: http://www.mower-magic.co.uk/acatalo...l_Aerator.html Honda GX160 Petrol Verticutter: http://www.camon.co.uk/Verticutter.htm Dethatcher (pictures): http://www.landscape-america.com/pro.../dethatch.html http://www.veseys.com/ca/en/store/ma...lawndethatcher Then we have other types of equipment: Billy Goat CR550H 5hp Honda Compact Power Rake http://www.cairnsmowercity.com/prod559.htm Billy Goat AE551 5.5hp Core Lawn Aerator http://www.cairnsmowercity.com/prod551.htm ----------------- Earlier this spring I was looking for an all-in-one machine that would be used primarily in the spring, and it would do the following or have the following capabilities: - gas powered, 5 to 10 hp - push or walk behind (not ride on) - important feature is that it's a high suction vaccum cleaner with large canister recepticle - vacuum deck contains brushes, knives, blades, wires, or some other spinning, whirling mechanism that can beat the ground and dislodge loose debris for the vacuum to pick up (like a beater bar on a vacuum cleaner). Minimal harm to grass. Uses: - pick up gravel, sand, pea-sized stones or small broken bits of asphalt on driveways, small parking lots, or the roadway in front of your house in the spring that was left behind by winter road dammage and sand/gravel put down by road maintanence vehicles during the winter. - clean the lawn in the spring of all the various loose organic debris, leaf and twig fragments (etc) that even a lawn mower with a bag and with the deck set low to the ground will not pick up. - grind up (to an extent beyond what a lawn mower would do) and pick up leaves in the fall. Cost: Between $500 and $750 USD. Is there such a machine? A Verticutter is another name for Vertimower which is used for dethatching lawns , It is hard work and very messy . (VERTIMOWING or DE-THATCHING is the physical cutting and removal of the thatch, The vertimower has around 25 tungsten tipped blades) Virticutter is not the universal name , Virtimower is and is used to Virticut . If you want to Aerate Lawn you need an Aerator or as some people call a Coring machine (A lawn aerator is a garden tool designed to aerate the soil in which lawn grasses grow. Aeration improves soil drainage) the average machines uses about a 5.5HP engine. A scarifier can be a hand help tool normally with 3 bent prongs that are dragged threw hard soil to break it up , a Plow , Rotary Hoe, cultivator or Tiller all perform to the same job on different scales. The 3 above machines are all entirely different and individual machines , No one machine can perform all the 3 tasks. The money you expect to pay would make a small down payment on a Vertimower. A friend who does this for a living just paid $5300 for his Vertimower. |
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Scarifier vs Verticutter vs Dethatcher (was: Less lawn, more ants)
Full-Quoter Slick wrote:
A Verticutter is ... If you want to Aerate Lawn ... Which I don't. A scarifier can be a ... The 3 above machines are all entirely different and individual machines , No one machine can perform all the 3 tasks. I'm not looking for a machine that Aerates. I'm looking for an out-door, gasoline-powered vacuum cleaner that can vacuum sand, gravel and small stones from paves surfaces, and then (perhaps by changing a part or two) will dislodge and vaccum up anything not nailed down on my lawn (leaving only grass) and then (perhaps by changing a part or two) will vacuum up, pulverize and turn to dust leaves in the fall. |
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Scarifier vs Verticutter vs Dethatcher
Lawn Guy wrote:
I'm looking for an out-door, gasoline-powered vacuum cleaner that can vacuum sand, gravel and small stones from paves surfaces, and then (perhaps by changing a part or two) will dislodge and vaccum up anything not nailed down on my lawn (leaving only grass) and then (perhaps by changing a part or two) will vacuum up, pulverize and turn to dust leaves in the fall. Here's one: http://www.vacuumtruck.net/graphics/al02lg.jpg another: http://www.rockanddirt.com/perl/sear...hod%3Dsear ch |
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