aemeijers wrote:

Sounds like you are in a fringe area. I do pretty good with a
converter box and rabbit ears, except for one station that is a tough
catch even for analog and a roof antenna. I do find the digital
signals are much fussier about how the antenna is pointed. I'm just
farting around at this point, while I decide how much to spend on a
new roof antenna to replace the one that came with the house that is
in sad shape. (It will only be backup for Dishnet, so I don't want to
spend too much.) I clamped rabbit ears on a swiveling camera tripod in
the corner of the back living room, so I can easily rotate it as needed.

(No, no woman lives here. Why do you ask?)

--
aem sends...
I am 8 to 9 miles from all the Cincinnati transmitters and there are all
within a 4 degree bearing as calculated by antennaweb.org. I only have
trees obstructing the line of sight path. With various indoor antennas
(amplified and non) I have yet to do well with an indoor setup, though
analog works well. But the low power explanation might be the reason.
If indoor antennas are working for you guys I will hopefully experience
the same.

This is just a minor curiosity for me. Unless History Channel, NATGEO,
etc., give me a way to use my TV's receiver to pick up their stuff for
free I will remain on cable. Well, unless the bloody power goes out again.

Will there be TV broadcast signals during a power cut? Some of the stations
near me continue to transmit. perhaps backup generator. The power cuts I've
experienced, suddenly there is no money work to do. And so I have LOTS of
time on my hands. I bring out the manual type writer, and write journal
pages, and letters to friends.

--
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Learn more about Jesus
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
...

On your charged-up laptop, which will run about as long as alkalines in
a battery TV. If you have gas in the car to keep that battery running,
you can sit in the car and watch. I've done that a few times, now I just
try to sleep through the outage, or if it is several days, find the
nearest hotel with power and room.

I wanted to do that last thing, but there's a problem in that major
power outages often coincide with hotels being full, as happened
during the recent storm (Ike).
--
82 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The government of the United States is not, in
any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

T. McQuinn wrote:
aemeijers wrote:

Sounds like you are in a fringe area. I do pretty good with a
converter box and rabbit ears, except for one station that is a tough
catch even for analog and a roof antenna. I do find the digital
signals are much fussier about how the antenna is pointed. I'm just
farting around at this point, while I decide how much to spend on a
new roof antenna to replace the one that came with the house that is
in sad shape. (It will only be backup for Dishnet, so I don't want to
spend too much.) I clamped rabbit ears on a swiveling camera tripod in
the corner of the back living room, so I can easily rotate it as needed.

(No, no woman lives here. Why do you ask?)

--
aem sends...
I am 8 to 9 miles from all the Cincinnati transmitters and there are all
within a 4 degree bearing as calculated by antennaweb.org. I only have
trees obstructing the line of sight path. With various indoor antennas
(amplified and non) I have yet to do well with an indoor setup, though
analog works well. But the low power explanation might be the reason.
If indoor antennas are working for you guys I will hopefully experience
the same.

This is just a minor curiosity for me. Unless History Channel, NATGEO,
etc., give me a way to use my TV's receiver to pick up their stuff for
free I will remain on cable. Well, unless the bloody power goes out again.

You don't have aluminum siding, metal shingles, or old plaster walls
with expanded metal lath, do you? Sounds like you are living in a
Faraday cage! Just for giggles, I'd try using the rabbit ears on a coax
extension hung out a window on the side of the house facing the
transmitters. That would tell you if there is something about your house
that makes a difference, or if height is the only issue, to get above a
hill or building that is in the way. Cincinnati is pretty hilly- are you
sure there is actual line of sight from your place to the antenna farm?
Even a low hill can cast a long shadow.

--
aem sends...

Stormin Mormon wrote:
Will there be TV broadcast signals during a power cut? Some of the stations
near me continue to transmit. perhaps backup generator. The power cuts I've
experienced, suddenly there is no money work to do. And so I have LOTS of
time on my hands. I bring out the manual type writer, and write journal
pages, and letters to friends.


I'm not sure what alternative power options the stations have, but this
last outage was pretty widespread and they were transmitting by the time
I got the generator rigged. Seriously, it would be no great loss.
Their advice was of no use to me and their assurances and predictions
struck me as geared more towards preventing panic than telling me when
I'd have juice again. And my pessimism served me well last month.

aemeijers wrote:

You don't have aluminum siding, metal shingles, or old plaster walls
with expanded metal lath, do you? Sounds like you are living in a
Faraday cage! Just for giggles, I'd try using the rabbit ears on a
coax extension hung out a window on the side of the house facing the
transmitters. That would tell you if there is something about your
house that makes a difference, or if height is the only issue, to get
above a hill or building that is in the way. Cincinnati is pretty
hilly- are you sure there is actual line of sight from your place to
the antenna farm? Even a low hill can cast a long shadow.

--
aem sends...

LOL, I keep forgetting about not putting the antenna in my Faraday cage!

Drywall, fiberglass insulation and cedar siding and I'm atop the biggest
hill around. With the antenna outside I get digital and HD digital that
is to die for. I was just curious how things were working out for
everyone else.

On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 08:48:38 -0400, "T. McQuinn"
wrote:

[snip]

I am 8 to 9 miles from all the Cincinnati transmitters and there are all
within a 4 degree bearing as calculated by antennaweb.org. I only have
trees obstructing the line of sight path. With various indoor antennas
(amplified and non) I have yet to do well with an indoor setup, though
analog works well. But the low power explanation might be the reason.
If indoor antennas are working for you guys I will hopefully experience
the same.

The closest digital station to me is 23 miles from here. I get that
(and a couple of others) with an indoor (UHF) antenna. However, there
are no big towns in the way. Reception is good most of the time. The
station was off the air for a few minutes as Hurricane Ike passed
through (maybe the time it took to start their generator).

BTW, this is about 200 miles north of Galveston.

[snip]
--
81 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The government of the United States is not, in
any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

On Oct 3, 10:02*am, Robert Blass wrote:
I have a portable analog TV which will be a door stop in 2009. Does
any place sell the new digital tv's in a portable form? You know, one
that runs on batteries in case your electricity goes out.

If you live near a Best Buy, todays sales flyer has a digital antenna
for portable televisions from RCA listed for $49.99. This would
allow you to keep your television because it converts the digital
signal to analog, thereby eliminating the need for a converter box and
electricity.

On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:19:54 GMT, aemeijers sayd
the following:

Robert Blass wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:11:28 -0500, "Pete C."
sayd the following:

Tony Hwang wrote:
Robert Blass wrote:
I have a portable analog TV which will be a door stop in 2009. Does
any place sell the new digital tv's in a portable form? You know, one
that runs on batteries in case your electricity goes out.


Hi,
One thing some fancy laptop computers come with TV tuner.
And for others, the USB tuner dongles are $100.


Uh, how would that work with NO electricity which is why I asked?


On your charged-up laptop, which will run about as long as alkalines in
a battery TV. If you have gas in the car to keep that battery running,
you can sit in the car and watch. I've done that a few times, now I just
try to sleep through the outage, or if it is several days, find the
nearest hotel with power and room.


News Alert==I don't have nor never mentioned having a laptop

someone ELSE mentioned having a laptop.

geez

i dont have a laptop!

On 4 Oct 2008 01:01:40 GMT, Jim Yanik sayd the
following:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
:

Laptops run on electricty.


they run on BATTERIES.
and can be charged/ran from a car's cig lighter,OR another 12v source.

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 23:29:21 -0600, Tony Hwang sayd
the following:

Robert Blass wrote:
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:11:28 -0500, "Pete C."
sayd the following:

Tony Hwang wrote:
Robert Blass wrote:
I have a portable analog TV which will be a door stop in 2009. Does
any place sell the new digital tv's in a portable form? You know, one
that runs on batteries in case your electricity goes out.


Hi,
One thing some fancy laptop computers come with TV tuner.
And for others, the USB tuner dongles are $100.


Uh, how would that work with NO electricity which is why I asked?


Hmmm,
Laptops work on built-in batteries and can be charged while being used
via car cigarette lighter plug.


I never said I have a laptop, I do not own and have never owned a
laptop...

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:00:14 -0700 (PDT), sayd
the following:

On Oct 3, 12:58*pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
*AZ Nomad wrote:



found a govt. site for $40 coupons and ordered two. *We'll see.

* *My in-law got their coupons from the same site. Their convertors were
$9.95 each two weeks ago.
FWIW


Circuit City is selling them for $60, so after the rebate they are $20.


So if you bought one for $60 and sold it for $40 you'd make a $20
profit.


NICE!

On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:51:48 -0400, Robert Blass wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:00:14 -0700 (PDT), sayd
the following:

On Oct 3, 12:58*pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
*AZ Nomad wrote:



found a govt. site for $40 coupons and ordered two. *We'll see.

* *My in-law got their coupons from the same site. Their convertors were
$9.95 each two weeks ago.
FWIW


Circuit City is selling them for $60, so after the rebate they are $20.


So if you bought one for $60 and sold it for $40 you'd make a $20
profit.

Maybe they can distribute coupons for remedial math.

Barb wrote:
On Oct 3, 10:02 am, Robert Blass wrote:
I have a portable analog TV which will be a door stop in 2009. Does
any place sell the new digital tv's in a portable form? You know, one
that runs on batteries in case your electricity goes out.

If you live near a Best Buy, todays sales flyer has a digital antenna
for portable televisions from RCA listed for $49.99. This would
allow you to keep your television because it converts the digital
signal to analog, thereby eliminating the need for a converter box and
electricity.

No it does not and the ad does not say that it does. It only says that it
will work as an antenna for both analog and digital signals. Not that it
converts one to the other.

On Oct 5, 8:42�pm, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:51:48 -0400, Robert Blass wrote:
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:00:14 -0700 (PDT), sayd
the following:
On Oct 3, 12:58�pm, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
�AZ Nomad wrote:

found a govt. site for $40 coupons and ordered two. �We'll see.

� �My in-law got their coupons from the same site. Their convertors were
$9.95 each two weeks ago.
FWIW

Circuit City is selling them for $60, so after the rebate they are $20.
So if you bought one for $60 and sold it for $40 you'd make a $20
profit.

Maybe they can distribute coupons for remedial math.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

government giving away a trillion dollars before its all over. so 40
bucks is nothing $ wise

Robert Blass wrote in
:

i dont have a laptop!

On 4 Oct 2008 01:01:40 GMT, Jim Yanik sayd the
following:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
:

Laptops run on electricty.


they run on BATTERIES.
and can be charged/ran from a car's cig lighter,OR another 12v source.



it might be cheaper to buy one and get a DTV dongle,for your "portable
DTV".
Then,it would have more than just one use.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net