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Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price.
They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... |
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"CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... If you are still around there are a number of free or inexpensive Usenet providers that you could still get to. Especially if you don't do a lot of binaries. I have no personal background with any of these, so buyer beware, but a quick Google picked up: www.freeusenet.org www.newzbot.com www.newsgroupreviews.com |
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CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert wrote:
Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... I dumped Ccomcast about a year ago. The new at&t made an offer for TV, through Dish, for free for a year .... no contract. I did up my Dish service a bit .... I guess that's what they want, but it only cost me about $17/month for what I have, for the year. BTW, I already dropped Ccomcast previously for data as DSL was better and much cheaper. I must confess that the big C has greatly improved their data service in my area, but it was not good when I made the switch. |
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CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert wrote:
Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. Consult with your local 12-year old male. Comcast may provide internet connectivity, but they don't have to be your ISP. I use Comcast for internet connectivity but Earthlink is my ISP. Earthlink, moreover, contracts out its newsgroup facilities to Giganews. |
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"HeyBub" wrote:
CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. Consult with your local 12-year old male. Comcast may provide internet connectivity, but they don't have to be your ISP. I use Comcast for internet connectivity but Earthlink is my ISP. Earthlink, moreover, contracts out its newsgroup facilities to Giganews. Earthlink is my ISP. Their high-speed access is provided via Time Warner cable modem. Their newsgroups were not available when I was on the road, so I subscribe to News.Individual.NET for about $16 per year. They are based in Germany, so are free from the Bowdlerizing nonsense that goes on other places. Also, the one time I had occasion to write them about a problem with a restriction they had placed on one of my favorite groups, I got a prompt reply from a real person. We exchanged polite emails and they lifted the restriction. |
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On Sep 17, 9:27*am, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote:
Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. *So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. *The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. *I guess I am greedy too. *Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... I'm ****ed too and let them know. OTOH, as you can see from this post, I'm not on my Comcast account and going through google. You can do it too and there is no charge. You'll just miss the binary groups. |
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On Sep 17, 9:27*am, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote:
Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. *So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. *The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. *I guess I am greedy too. *Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... I suppose I can use google. I use it to search from time to time. But the interface does not compare to pan. Ill have to check out other places. Damn shame really. |
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On Sep 17, 10:34*am, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:27:18 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote: In article , wrote: Go to AIOE.org as one example. You don't even have to sign up or register. Just use it. * And if one wants to waste large amounts of time and needs to satisfy one's masochistic urges, there is always Google Groups. Many users filter out all posts that originate from google groups... and for good reason. The bulk of them are spam and trolls. If you want to be a full fledged participant in an active newsgroup, don'r use Google. You will have a much smaller audience. I always get a kick out of post such as this. I've been mucking about on Usenet since ~1994. I've used several different means of getting to them, different providers, readers, etc., and I really don't have any major issues with Google Groups for access. I fully understand the loathing for spam and trolls, and Google does a pretty reasonable job of filtering out the spam without any of my help (there are some groups that are worse than others, and there was that notable onslaught of spam from half a year back). The trolls are part of Usenet and sometimes it's tough to tell the white hats from the black hats. I killfile very rarely as a little kid screaming doesn't bother me unless I can't close the door. Usenet is a closed door - you have to open it to be enlightened or annoyed. As far as the smaller audience...who cares? Whether ten or a hundred read the post, I'm usually just responding to one person. R |
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Josh wrote in message ... In article , CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert says... Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... Newsguy.com is offering a special for Comcast newsgroup refugees (it's not showing on their site yet, but email them and they'll take care of you, let them know I sent you). I've been using Newsguy for years. Great group of people running it. They sent me this email this morning, and since I provided the links I think they should tell them "I"sent them. ;-) Seriously, I love NewsGuy. Great customer service, especially Cindy and Bob. Cheri "Hi, According to recent announcements, RCN has discontinued access to their newsgroup service. For RCN customers (rcn.com, erols.com, starpower.net) that still require Usenet service, we're offering a free month of newsgroup access with the purchase of any Basic, Extra, Express, or Unlimited NewsGuy account... http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm Sincerely, NewsGuy.Com" |
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"Art Todesco" wrote in message ... CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... I dumped Ccomcast about a year ago. The new at&t made an offer for TV, through Dish, for free for a year .... no contract. I did up my Dish service a bit .... I guess that's what they want, but it only cost me about $17/month for what I have, for the year. BTW, I already dropped Ccomcast previously for data as DSL was better and much cheaper. I must confess that the big C has greatly improved their data service in my area, but it was not good when I made the switch. ATT is slow but cheap. I prefer Dish over anything that is out there for the price. |
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CL "dnoyeb" G. wrote:
On Sep 17, 9:27 am, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... I suppose I can use google. I use it to search from time to time. But the interface does not compare to pan. Ill have to check out other places. Damn shame really. I second Salty Dog's reply. Have used AIOE.ORG ever sinvce Time Warner.Roadrunner killed their newsgroups. Has always worked great, it is free and the only disadvantage??? is that they don't carry any binary groups |
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CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert wrote:
Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. I'll go along with the several others which suggested aioe.org . This is a fantastic server for free. Except donate if you can. I had aioe as a backup server, when I had TW Roadrunner newsgroups. TW decided to dump newsgroups. Also, at the aioe help desk, the person which offers the service, will answer questions. The only thing I found, one of my subscriptions, is a read only group. I wrote, and aioe answered they don't allow posting, because the group contains a lot of spam. One other drawback, but it's not a drawback in my case. You can "only" post 25 times per day. |
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On 9/17/2008 6:39 AM Kurt Ullman spake thus:
In article , "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... If you are still around there are a number of free or inexpensive Usenet providers that you could still get to. Especially if you don't do a lot of binaries. I have no personal background with any of these, so buyer beware, but a quick Google picked up: www.freeusenet.org www.newzbot.com www.newsgroupreviews.com But how many of those allow you to post through them? My experience (some time ago, I admit) was that all the free providers were basically "read-only", and that you had to pay $$ in order to post. -- Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. - Paulo Freire |
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On 9/17/2008 9:10 AM RicodJour spake thus:
On Sep 17, 10:34 am, wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:27:18 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote: In article , wrote: Go to AIOE.org as one example. You don't even have to sign up or register. Just use it. And if one wants to waste large amounts of time and needs to satisfy one's masochistic urges, there is always Google Groups. Many users filter out all posts that originate from google groups... and for good reason. The bulk of them are spam and trolls. If you want to be a full fledged participant in an active newsgroup, don'r use Google. You will have a much smaller audience. I always get a kick out of post such as this. I've been mucking about on Usenet since ~1994. I've used several different means of getting to them, different providers, readers, etc., and I really don't have any major issues with Google Groups for access. I fully understand the loathing for spam and trolls, and Google does a pretty reasonable job of filtering out the spam without any of my help (there are some groups that are worse than others, and there was that notable onslaught of spam from half a year back). The trolls are part of Usenet and sometimes it's tough to tell the white hats from the black hats. I killfile very rarely as a little kid screaming doesn't bother me unless I can't close the door. Usenet is a closed door - you have to open it to be enlightened or annoyed. Actually, my beef with googlegroups (and that of many others) has little to do with "trolls", which as you say seem to abound on Usenet in general, but more with the ****-poor implementation of news access that Google cobbled up in its web-based approach. Just to give one example, their software allows users to edit their posts after they've been made. Now, this works fine on their interface: they just update their database, and presto change-o, the post is updated. But "real" Usenet users see two messages: the original one plus the edited one. Not to mention the tons of spam generated through googlegroups. I'm surprised at your assertion that they do "a pretty reasonable job of filtering out the spam", but I guess I'll have to take your word for that. -- Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. - Paulo Freire |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:32:08 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote: On 9/17/2008 6:39 AM Kurt Ullman spake thus: In article , "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... If you are still around there are a number of free or inexpensive Usenet providers that you could still get to. Especially if you don't do a lot of binaries. I have no personal background with any of these, so buyer beware, but a quick Google picked up: www.freeusenet.org www.newzbot.com www.newsgroupreviews.com But how many of those allow you to post through them? My experience (some time ago, I admit) was that all the free providers were basically "read-only", and that you had to pay $$ in order to post. There are many that allow posting. AIOE.org, which doesn't even require any sort of login or sign up, does limit you to 25 posts in 24 hours from your IP address, but if you need more than that to state your case, you probably should shut up and listen more. |
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Try Motzarella, free to read or post, just sign up for an account and it
works fine. http://www.motzarella.org/ -- Mike S. "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... But how many of those allow you to post through them? My experience (some time ago, I admit) was that all the free providers were basically "read-only", and that you had to pay $$ in order to post. |
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rmorton wrote in message ... I second Salty Dog's reply. Have used AIOE.ORG ever sinvce Time Warner.Roadrunner killed their newsgroups. Has always worked great, it is free and the only disadvantage??? is that they don't carry any binary groups I tried it but couldn't get it to work. I uninstalled it and installed it twice, downloaded the newsgroups and it kept coming up 502 error. Cheri Cheri |
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On Sep 17, 12:31*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 17 , RicodJour wrote: On Sep 17, 10:34*am, wrote: Many users filter out all posts that originate from google groups... and for good reason. The bulk of them are spam and trolls. If you want to be a full fledged participant in an active newsgroup, don'r use Google. You will have a much smaller audience. I always get a kick out of post such as this. *I've been mucking about on Usenet since ~1994. *I've used several different means of getting to them, different providers, readers, etc., and I really don't have any major issues with Google Groups for access. *I fully understand the loathing for spam and trolls, and Google does a pretty reasonable job of filtering out the spam without any of my help (there are some groups that are worse than others, and there was that notable onslaught of spam from half a year back). *The trolls are part of Usenet and sometimes it's tough to tell the white hats from the black hats. *I killfile very rarely as a little kid screaming doesn't bother me unless I can't close the door. *Usenet is a closed door - you have to open it to be enlightened or annoyed. As far as the smaller audience...who cares? *Whether ten or a hundred read the post, I'm usually just responding to one person. Conetnt from google posters is overall not very high in quality. I guess if you are looking for quantity vs. QWuality, then google is great. BTW - My usenet experience predates yours. BFD. I apologize. I wasn't trying to get into a ****ing match with you - I know you're full of ****! ~ My point was that I'm not a newb, I've tried a bunch of means to access Usenet, and Google isn't as horrendous as people make it out to be. Google groups does a pretty good job of deleting the spam before I see it. I guess it's that they do a pretty lousy job of policing the spamposters that are using Google Groups, and that's what ****es people off. If the OP, CLG, needs free access, well, GG is one way to go. R |
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Cheri wrote:
.... I tried it but couldn't get it to work. I uninstalled it and installed it twice, downloaded the newsgroups and it kept coming up 502 error. .... What is "it" to install? news.aioe.org is simply a free newsserver. Use the news client of your choice--there's nothing to install, simply connect with your client. -- |
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RicodJour wrote in message ... On Sep 17, 12:31 pm, wrote: On Wed, 17 , RicodJour wrote: On Sep 17, 10:34 am, wrote: Conetnt from google posters is overall not very high in quality. I guess if you are looking for quantity vs. QWuality, then google is great. BTW - My usenet experience predates yours. BFD. I apologize. I wasn't trying to get into a ****ing match with you - I know you're full of ****! ~ My point was that I'm not a newb, I've tried a bunch of means to access Usenet, and Google isn't as horrendous as people make it out to be. Google groups does a pretty good job of deleting the spam before I see it. I guess it's that they do a pretty lousy job of policing the spamposters that are using Google Groups, and that's what ****es people off. If the OP, CLG, needs free access, well, GG is one way to go. R ************** I used it for a few days while NewsGuy was making upgrades, and I thought it was OK, though I don't really care much for the read format, it's hard to keep track of for me, but I'm old. Cheri |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:27:35 -0400, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert"
wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... Some have already renamed it "Communist Cast." |
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I'm using Comcast newsgroups and haven't been notified that they will no
longer be providing newgroup service. When and how were you notified of this change? Don in Tracy, Calif. "CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert" wrote in message . .. Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... |
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Mike S. wrote:
Try Motzarella, free to read or post, just sign up for an account and it works fine. http://www.motzarella.org/ Works for me too. |
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In article on Wed, 17 Sep
2008 22:14:54 -0700, RVer Don wrote: I'm using Comcast newsgroups and haven't been notified that they will no longer be providing newgroup service. When and how were you notified of this change? It's posted on the Comcast web site: http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/ -- Seth Goodman |
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Now that Comcast is taking away what was one of their features are they going to reduce the price of their sevice? I know. I've got to be kidding. Charlie "RVer Don" wrote in message . .. I'm using Comcast newsgroups and haven't been notified that they will no longer be providing newgroup service. When and how were you notified of this change? Don in Tracy, Calif. "CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert" wrote in message . .. Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... |
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"Charlie" wrote in message ... Now that Comcast is taking away what was one of their features are they going to reduce the price of their sevice? I know. I've got to be kidding. Charlie Thanks. That was a good one. I haven't laughed so hard since my mother-in-law's lawn chair collapsed. Steve |
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RVer Don wrote in message ... I'm using Comcast newsgroups and haven't been notified that they will no longer be providing newgroup service. When and how were you notified of this change? Don in Tracy, Calif. I'm in Lodi, and recently the rep told me that they wouldn't be carrying newsgroups much longer. Dunno if it's really true or not, because he also told me a lot of wrong info about broadband, giving me ridiculously low price quotes for 2 computers, and then I find out that it doesn't really support Win98 at all, so I'm just relaying what he said about newsgroup access. Cheri Cheri |
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Charlie wrote in message ... Now that Comcast is taking away what was one of their features are they going to reduce the price of their sevice? I know. I've got to be kidding. Charlie Sure they are. Just like they came through and took several channels away from the expanded basic cable, and put nothing back. They raised the prices. Thieves. Cheri |
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Josh wrote in message ... In article , Cheri says... They sent me this email this morning, and since I provided the links I think they should tell them "I"sent them. ;-) Seriously, I love NewsGuy. Great customer service, especially Cindy and Bob. Cheri Actually, I'm the one that told Cin and Bob that RCN and Comcast were ditching newsgroups. They started the promo based on my tip. So there ;-) OK, Josh...you definitely win then. :-) Cheri |
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For those who want something almost free without the disadvantages of a
free service, and aren't planning to download gigabytes of pictures and movies every week, a lot of usenet providers sell blocks of gigabytes such that you can pay for one block and use it till you use it up. If you only do text, such as this message, it will probably take years to use a few dollars worth. The minimum charge for a block of gigabytes that never expires till you use it up ranges from $2 to $6 on the usenet provider websites I've looked at. Usenet-news, which I'm using right now, is one example. |
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:24:19 GMT, Anagram
wrote: For those who want something almost free without the disadvantages of a free service, and aren't planning to download gigabytes of pictures and movies every week, a lot of usenet providers sell blocks of gigabytes such that you can pay for one block and use it till you use it up. If you only do text, such as this message, it will probably take years to use a few dollars worth. The minimum charge for a block of gigabytes that never expires till you use it up ranges from $2 to $6 on the usenet provider websites I've looked at. Usenet-news, which I'm using right now, is one example. Why have another bill? Usenet is part of the Internet. Cutting out Usenet is removing part of the service your ISP has agreed to provide for your monthly billing. I can understand removing binaries but certainly not text-based groups. With Comcast you can still get free newsgroups but you will need to setup another nntp with your newsreader or just use a free http-based newsgroup website such as nntp.aioe.org or http://news.motzarella.org |
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Phisherman wrote in
: Why have another bill? Usenet is part of the Internet. Cutting out Usenet is removing part of the service your ISP has agreed to provide $2 once every few years is not exactly "another bill". For practical purposes, it might as well be free. |
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On Sep 17, 8:27 am, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote:
Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. I end up using Google despite it's horrible user interface. Their cross-group searching is very handy. My ISP is AT&T and their newsgroups seem to be an ragged afterthought and are very incomplete and unreliable. |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:32:08 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote: On 9/17/2008 6:39 AM Kurt Ullman spake thus: In article , "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... If you are still around there are a number of free or inexpensive Usenet providers that you could still get to. Especially if you don't do a lot of binaries. I have no personal background with any of these, so buyer beware, but a quick Google picked up: www.freeusenet.org www.newzbot.com www.newsgroupreviews.com But how many of those allow you to post through them? My experience (some time ago, I admit) was that all the free providers were basically "read-only", and that you had to pay $$ in order to post. IIRC, aioe.org allows posting. No binary groups, though, -- 97 days until the winter solstice celebration Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." |
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vincent_bay510 had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...ps-331690-.htm : ------------------------------------- David Nebenzahl wrote: On 9/17/2008 6:39 AM Kurt Ullman spake thus: In article , "CL "dnoyeB" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. They are using the "they did it" excuse. So my newsgroup service is going bye bye. The greed never stops. To be fair, I would dump their ass for another company if I could. I guess I am greedy too. Just you wait Comcast! This group really saved me lots of pain and suffering. CLG signing off.... If you are still around there are a number of free or inexpensive Usenet providers that you could still get to. Especially if you don't do a lot of binaries. I have no personal background with any of these, so buyer beware, but a quick Google picked up: www.freeusenet.org www.newzbot.com www.newsgroupreviews.com But how many of those allow you to post through them? My experience (some time ago, I admit) was that all the free providers were basically "read-only", and that you had to pay $$ in order to post. I'm obviously a little late to the thread (just registered here), but I would recommend Newsguy.com for anyone that is looking for a reliable newsgroup provider. They have accounts as low as $3/month that allow 10GB of monthly downloads, unlimited posting, NNTP newsreader & Web access, newsgroup search engine, and 5 email boxes if you don't want to post with your ISP or company email address. They're rated highly at most of the review sites (http://newsadmin.com, etc.) and they have a free trial so you can check them out before buying an account. I've been happy with them, and they may be worth a look. Vince ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair - 317576 messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
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no longer be providing newgroup service. Hmmm. So many, it appears to be a concerted effort, perhaps. Hmmm. A "thought experiment": Suppose this were China where this was happening, removing the ability for people to use newsgroups. Why might China be shutting down newsgroup access? Well, maybe pursuing that would be a COMPLETE waste of time, since obviously the answer to that question would be useless as explanation here. :-( David |
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no longer be providing newgroup service.
Hmmm. So many, it appears to be a concerted effort, perhaps. Hmmm. A "thought experiment": Suppose this were China where this was happening, removing the ability for people to use newsgroups. Why might China be shutting down newsgroup access? Newsgroups are not being shut down. Many internet service providers have stopped offering it for free, but there are places on the internet where you can sign up for free, or you could pay a bit. I signed up with giganews, and paid for more than I needed to for basic service. Shop around. Well, maybe pursuing that would be a COMPLETE waste of time, since obviously the answer to that question would be useless as explanation here. :-( David China is very anal, but the internet is not. Plug "usenet" into Google. It's still with us. |
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Davej wrote:
On Sep 17, 8:27 am, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote: Comcast decided to take this opportunity to shed services without price. I end up using Google despite it's horrible user interface. Their cross-group searching is very handy. My ISP is AT&T and their newsgroups seem to be an ragged afterthought and are very incomplete and unreliable. Yeah, I'm noticing a downward curve since the latest merger myself. I dumped one of the baby bells, the former ameritech, because their news service went to hell, and went to ATT, which was much better at the time. But then ATT got eaten by another baby bell, SBC (which had already eaten ameritech), which promptly rebranded themselves with Mama's name. And now I am seeing followups before I see the intitial post, and sometimes not seeing the intitial posts at all. Deja Vu all over again. I'm a cheap SOB, so I'll probably wait till they drop it entirely before I subscribe to a pay usenet service. At that point, I may just drop ATT entirely, since I get my DSL from a 3rd-party provider anyway, and only kept ATT for news and to keep same e-mail address. My DSL company provides an email address that I never check, but have a forward set to my ATT account. My relatives may just have to climb the learning curve, to save me the 8 bucks a month. Now all we need is for ATT to go after the last remaining baby bell out west, and we will be back where we started. -- aem sends... |
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