ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

On Sep 16, 2:23*pm, z wrote:


naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

Are the other 3 screws holding the cover plate OK, is the issue just
cosmetic? If that's the case, I'd just cut the head off the 4th screw
and epoxy it to the cover plate. Otherwise...I got nothin'.

Jerry

On Sep 16, 7:23*pm, z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the *brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and *make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

Could be a metal clip used in the wall construction. Could be a steel
header. I'd get a metal bit and try that. If not i'd apply a good
adhesive to that corner and screw in a short screw for appearance.

"jim" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 7:23 pm, z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

Could be a metal clip used in the wall construction. Could be a steel
header. I'd get a metal bit and try that. If not i'd apply a good
adhesive to that corner and screw in a short screw for appearance.

I like this solution but I had the same problem once when trying to drill
into a brick fireplace to mount a mantel. Problem was stones in the brick
mix. Solution was to get a hammer drill and bit which busted through the
stones just fine.

Tom G.

Great advice. I be likkin these trikken for pikken a way to make a hole in
the frikkin brikkin. Stikken the cut off screwwin the frikkin brikkin and be
done with the messen.

--
Christopher Frikken Young
Learn more about Trikken and pikken
www.lds.org
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"Tom G" wrote in message
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Could be a metal clip used in the wall construction. Could be a steel
header. I'd get a metal bit and try that. If not i'd apply a good
adhesive to that corner and screw in a short screw for appearance.

I like this solution but I had the same problem once when trying to drill
into a brick fireplace to mount a mantel. Problem was stones in the brick
mix. Solution was to get a hammer drill and bit which busted through the
stones just fine.

Tom G.

Best Buggs Bunny voice

But do you have a frickin bricken license?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"z" wrote in message
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ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

z wrote in news:4d981c19-9fb1-46d9-aeaa-
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ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

Been there. I suspect some type of hard stone/pebble imbedded. If hole is
big enough, might be able to put a centerpunch in and whack it with a
hammer to crack it.

z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

If all else fails unscrew the plate and rotate 45 deg and try agin :-)
Rheilly P

On Sep 17, 3:30*am, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the *brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and *make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

If all else fails unscrew the plate and rotate 45 deg and try agin :-)
Rheilly P- Hide quoted text -

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If it were me, I'd have used a few dabs of construction adhesive or
similar to hold the cover plate on to begin with.

z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

You may have hit a rock inside the brick. Try cracking the rock with a punch
and a hammer.

On Sep 17, 10:20*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the *brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and *make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

You may have hit a rock inside the brick. Try cracking the rock with a punch
and a hammer.

But be careful as too hard of a whack might crack the brick which
would be worse than a missing screw on a decorative cover plate.

R

On Sep 17, 12:14*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:20*am, "HeyBub" wrote:





z wrote:
ok, so.... installing a replacement for a freezeproof outdoor faucet
which apparently froze... anyway, there's a decorative brick wall
covering the real structural wall, and a hole about the size of an
electrical outlet box through which the faucet goes, which was covered
with a hideous aluminum plate about 8 inches square screwed randomly
to the bricks.

so, i goes to the nearest hemedepoo and gets a nice 4 inch diameter
round plastic coverplate of some kind designed for this kind of thing,
even has a circle of the right diameter embossed on the backside to
punch out. gonna install it onto the *brick with those little blue
screws that you screw into bricks, concrete, masonry, etc. after using
the special tungsten carbide drill that comes packaged with them for a
pilot hole.

naturally; three of the holes and screws work fine, the fourth
hole..... drill comes to a dead stop maybe 3/16 inch in and just sits
there getting hot. is it dull? i try it out on a spare brick, drills
right into it fine, so no, it's not dull. i assume there's a diamond
or something embedded in the brick just where i want to drill.

is there anything to do to get past this oddity, or do i either have
to move that screw and *make it look funny (assuming i find a softer
spot after all), or rotate the whole plate and try my luck again?

You may have hit a rock inside the brick. Try cracking the rock with a punch
and a hammer.

But be careful as too hard of a whack might crack the brick which
would be worse than a missing screw on a decorative cover plate.

R- Hide quoted text -

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and in fact, that led to the somewhat unexpected solution.
first, i gave it a few whacks with a masonry nail. then i tried to
drill it again, with no improvement. so i leaned on the drill a little
harder, and sure enough after a while the whole bottom back piece of
the briick spalled off, leaving the front intact. boy, didn't expect
that to happen. so down to heme doopo for one of those $6 bags of
mortar mix which i filled in the cavity with like a bad dentist, and
when it dried it drilled quite easily. i'm sure the screw won't hold
against much, but altogether with the other three it gets the job done
and doesn't look anywhere near as hamhanded as it was.