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JJ[_8_] September 15th 08 04:43 PM

Crooked garage door
 
Probably answered 100 times, but I can't find the simple answer.

I have a 2-car garage with a single door. About 5 years ago, one of
my garage door springs snapped. I had both springs replaced by a
professional. Things looked fine for a while, but in the past 6
months, I've noticed that when the door is closed, one side is on the
ground and the other has a gap of about 1 inch.

Is there a simple adjustment for this problem that a DIYer can make,
or should I call back the professionals? I don't want to go anywhere
near those springs.

Should this be a simple job for the pros?

Thanks.

-JJ

hr(bob) [email protected] September 15th 08 05:38 PM

Crooked garage door
 
On Sep 15, 10:43*am, JJ wrote:
Probably answered 100 times, but I can't find the simple answer.

I have a 2-car garage with a single door. *About 5 years ago, one of
my garage door springs snapped. *I had both springs replaced by a
professional. *Things looked fine for a while, but in the past 6
months, I've noticed that when the door is closed, one side is on the
ground and the other has a gap of about 1 inch.

Is there a simple adjustment for this problem that a DIYer can make,
or should I call back the professionals? *I don't want to go anywhere
near those springs.

Should this be a simple job for the pros?

Thanks.

-JJ


Do you have separate springs on each slide of the door right over the
opening? That is a torsion bar type of lifter and is for the pros.
If you have two springs, one on each side alongside the door when it
is up, that is easy to do. But, since you are timid, find a handy
neighbor and have them take a look. Replacing side-mounted springs is
a 10 minute job, but you do have to get the right spring. THey are
usually color-coded.

Bob Hofmann

TWayne September 16th 08 12:44 AM

Crooked garage door
 
On Sep 15, 10:43 am, JJ wrote:
Probably answered 100 times, but I can't find the simple answer.

I have a 2-car garage with a single door. About 5 years ago, one of
my garage door springs snapped. I had both springs replaced by a
professional. Things looked fine for a while, but in the past 6
months, I've noticed that when the door is closed, one side is on the
ground and the other has a gap of about 1 inch.

Is there a simple adjustment for this problem that a DIYer can make,
or should I call back the professionals? I don't want to go anywhere
near those springs.

Should this be a simple job for the pros?

Thanks.

-JJ


Do you have separate springs on each slide of the door right over the
opening? That is a torsion bar type of lifter and is for the pros.
If you have two springs, one on each side alongside the door when it
is up, that is easy to do. But, since you are timid, find a handy
neighbor and have them take a look. Replacing side-mounted springs is
a 10 minute job, but you do have to get the right spring. THey are
usually color-coded.

Bob Hofmann


More accurately, the tension probably just needs adjusting. Springs,
especially new ones, don't always stretch at the same rate and tend to
loosen after a period of time as the memory fades. Usually only one
adjustment is needed for new springs though. And, it's a normal thing.



Steve Barker DLT September 16th 08 01:41 AM

Crooked garage door
 
The springs are not balanced properly and/or the cables may need adjustment.
If you're not familiar with the process, then get your pro back to re adjust
it.

s


"JJ" wrote in message
...
Probably answered 100 times, but I can't find the simple answer.

I have a 2-car garage with a single door. About 5 years ago, one of
my garage door springs snapped. I had both springs replaced by a
professional. Things looked fine for a while, but in the past 6
months, I've noticed that when the door is closed, one side is on the
ground and the other has a gap of about 1 inch.

Is there a simple adjustment for this problem that a DIYer can make,
or should I call back the professionals? I don't want to go anywhere
near those springs.

Should this be a simple job for the pros?

Thanks.

-JJ




JJ[_8_] September 16th 08 03:00 PM

Crooked garage door
 

Do you have separate springs on each slide of the door right over the
opening? *That is a torsion bar type of lifter and is for the pros.


I'm pretty sure I have torsion springs - mounted above the door (one
on either side of the center), parallel to the ground.

I'm not particularly timid in general - but I've had a big spring in a
heavy drafting table nearly take some fingers off once (those were not
torsion style springs).

If there is a simple way to adjust the tension on those types of
springs - say a bolt to tighten or loosen? I could easily do that.

Thanks.

-JJ

JJ[_8_] September 16th 08 03:09 PM

Crooked garage door
 
I found an article on torsion spring adjustment he
http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infgar/infgar1b.html

If I attempt this myself, would I want to decrease the tension on the
side that is not currently touching the ground - or increase the
tension on the side that is currently touching the ground?

Thanks.

-JJ

dpb September 16th 08 03:24 PM

Crooked garage door
 
JJ wrote:
....
If there is a simple way to adjust the tension on those types of
springs - say a bolt to tighten or loosen? I could easily do that.

....

Well, yes, there are a couple of set screws but if have to ask, that's
scarey to contemplate.

They're easy enough to adjust but need a good length of bar to hold the
tension when loosen set screw and a second to reach into next hole as
rotate it.

There isn't an adjusting mechanism in the sense that I think you're
hoping for; you have to hold the tension manually. Easy enough in
concept, also easy to get into real trouble if not careful or make a slip.

--

dpb September 16th 08 03:25 PM

Crooked garage door
 
JJ wrote:
I found an article on torsion spring adjustment he
http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infgar/infgar1b.html

If I attempt this myself, would I want to decrease the tension on the
side that is not currently touching the ground - or increase the
tension on the side that is currently touching the ground?

....

Yes.

Once you determine that the problem is actually one of spring tension
mismatch and not something else binding/causing the hangup.

--

TWayne September 16th 08 05:02 PM

Crooked garage door
 

Do you have separate springs on each slide of the door right over the
opening? That is a torsion bar type of lifter and is for the pros.


I'm pretty sure I have torsion springs - mounted above the door (one
on either side of the center), parallel to the ground.

I'm not particularly timid in general - but I've had a big spring in a
heavy drafting table nearly take some fingers off once (those were not
torsion style springs).

If there is a simple way to adjust the tension on those types of
springs - say a bolt to tighten or loosen? I could easily do that.

Thanks.

-JJ


OK; that's the type system that's dangerous at best and could result in
a completely non-working assembly for the uniniated at worst. As
someone said, that's definitely a job for the pros. One slip of the
torsion adjustment puller bar and whoop! Everything unwinds very, very
quickly, and could cause a lot of collateral damage in the process.

If you get a pro in they'll not only have the right tools but will know
exactly how to do it safely. And, they'll do it quickly and usually get
it right the first time. This is also a case where you want to be sure
they carry their own insurance; you don't want injuries to be applied to
yours should anything go wrong.

Not to be a killjoy here, but one of the advantages of torsion springs
is the tension for the door is always balanced; it can't really get
wrong like separate springs along the track on each side can. And which
I thought it sounded like you had up until now, so whoever asked that
question was wise in asking it, AND in recommending you get a pro.
The problem is more likely to be either a wire has slipped in a
wirebolt, allowing one wire on one side to get longer than the other,
effectively putting all the "pull" power on one wire. At some point,
the tracks won't be perfectly aligned and they will allow the door to
cock in the rails.
Another possibility is the tracks themselves have been bumped or
somehow gotten out of alignment. By catching or putting uneven friction
on the door movement within the tracks, eventually the power of the
opener forces the door to cock or twist between the rails. A pro can
spot that in a hurry. And, it's the less likely of the possibilities, I
think.

I'm not a garage door expert; just an alley-hanger-arounder from Chgo
were we Hank Hill'd our own home repairs. Watched a guy do a torsion
spring once that twisted itself off the header (16' door) when he put
the bar in and gave it a good pull, and it bounced around the alley like
a rubber ball for a few seconds! The header was wet & rotted; lags just
pulled completely out, one at a time, with a loud "pop" for the last
three of them. No one got hurt, but a stepladder wasn't usable for
setpping on anymoreg. After the header was replaced, the torsion
system was bolted instead of lagged!

--
HTH

Twayne





Steve Barker DLT September 17th 08 12:09 AM

Crooked garage door
 
Yes, it's simple, BUT! You have to know EXACTLY what you are doing before
starting.

s


"JJ" wrote in message
...


If there is a simple way to adjust the tension on those types of
springs - say a bolt to tighten or loosen? I could easily do that.


Thanks.

-JJ



Steve Barker DLT September 17th 08 12:11 AM

Crooked garage door
 
ACTUALLY the two springs work on the same shaft. It sounds like you need a
cable pulley adjustment and not a spring adjustment. The two springs (in
the case of torsion springs ) don't act independantly.

s


"JJ" wrote in message
...
I found an article on torsion spring adjustment he
http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infgar/infgar1b.html

If I attempt this myself, would I want to decrease the tension on the
side that is not currently touching the ground - or increase the
tension on the side that is currently touching the ground?

Thanks.

-JJ




JJ[_8_] September 17th 08 03:31 PM

Crooked garage door
 
Sounds like there are several possibilities for what the actual
problem might be. I guess I'll call a professional - I just know it
it'll hurt having to fork over a lot of $$ for what will likely turn
out to be 15 minutes on site. I'll just have to comfort myself with
the fact that it will probably be half the cost of having to call them
after I botch the job myself. :-)

Thanks for all the replies.

-JJ

Steve Barker DLT September 18th 08 01:30 AM

Crooked garage door
 
It'll be a learning experience though. Just watch very closely what he's
doing and you'll become more familiar with how it all works.

s

"JJ" wrote in message
...
Sounds like there are several possibilities for what the actual
problem might be. I guess I'll call a professional - I just know it
it'll hurt having to fork over a lot of $$ for what will likely turn
out to be 15 minutes on site. I'll just have to comfort myself with
the fact that it will probably be half the cost of having to call them
after I botch the job myself. :-)

Thanks for all the replies.

-JJ





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