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I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires
together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? |
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"rb" wrote in message ... I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? Unless you cut it in half, throw away the smaller length and install a male or female end on what's left |
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rb wrote:
I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX |
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rb wrote:
I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? Don't take this the wrong way, but if you are cutting extension cords at such a rate that you are looking for a better way to splice them back together, I suggest you work on being more careful. |
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"SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever |
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:03:13 -0400, "RBM" wrote:
"SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever wink wink |
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On Sep 13, 2:49*pm, "rb" wrote:
I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. *I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? Not complete info to go on! This looks a bit like a troll or posted by a very nontechnical person? Presuming it is posting about AC extension cords operating at (North America = 115 volts AC) and elsewhere, (perhaps = 230 volts AC) and are probably chopping into them with an electric lawn mower or such? Constantly cutting them suggests poor work planning??????? For example: Noticed new neighbour going length-ways on his lawn, using an electric mower, having to constantly move over and/or cut past (or even over) his extension cord! Why he didn't cut back and forth away from the outlet thereby dragging the cord further away each time is a wonder. Or he could have extended his cord with another and flaked it out so it it was at mid point of his line of cutting and he was cutting 'away' from that? General Rule: DO NOT (for permanent use) JOIN such portable cable/ extension cords (or whatever they are called in your neck of the woods)! Do not ever rely on taping except for 'maybe' a very temporary (couple of hours until stores open) repair! Never use tape in a damp/wet location As a temporary measure we have used either those crimp connectors (of appropriate wire gauge size) and/or soldering the wires, 'staggering' the joins so they are not alongside each other and to minimize the bulk of the splice. Each wire connection is covered with at least one layer of heat shrink tubing. Preferably the type that has an internal gel that surrounds the wire join as it shrinks. Also helps waterproof the now suspect connection. Then the 'group' of connections, usually live black, white neutral and green ground in North America; or brown live, blue neutral and yellow/ green in say Europe, are then sleeved with at least two layers of larger size heat shrink tubing to help protect and strengthen the join/ s. We have also used the larger size heat shrink to protect a chafe or cut of the outside of such an extension cord/wiring to prevent further damage. However you cannot do this if the moulded on ends are till intact, unless you cut of one and install a new 'end' at typical cost (North America) of around $3 to $5. |
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On 9/13/2008 9:49 AM rb spake thus:
I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? Nope. Just to sum up the other replies he 1. If cutting into extension "chords" (are those major, minor, diminished or augmented chords?) is a recurring problem with you, perhaps you might want to review your work habits, rather than figure out how to repair extension cords. 2. Fixing extension cords is a losing proposition. 3. Especially since I see in my latest Harbor Freight catalog that they're selling 12 gauge triple-tap extension cords (the heavy-duty ones) for the following prices: o 25': $19.99 o 50': 34.99 o 100': 64.99 No excuse not to just buy a new one and be careful not to cut it. -- Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. - Paulo Freire |
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ya, quit cutting into them.
s "rb" wrote in message ... I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? |
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A bit of overkill for an extension cord.
s "SteveBell" wrote in message ... The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX |
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On 9/13/2008 1:43 PM Blattus Slafaly spake thus:
rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? I solder them instead of butt connectors. The rest just like you. To minimize bulge I just push the stranded wires together tips to tips so they mesh together like brushes then apply solder. That way I know they won't pull apart and won't heat up due to lack of good connection. If there is only 3 feet to the end of the cord or less I just snip it and move the plug. Funny thing: I must be a little obsessive-compulsive about it, because I can't bring myself to make a butt connection any way other than the way I've always done it: by wrapping the ends around the other wire, then soldering. I'm sure your way is just as strong as mine, but I've never done it that way (your way is probably less bulky as well). -- Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. - Paulo Freire |
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rb wrote:
I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? A few years back my son was helping a friend of a friend of a friend (some rich lawyer guy) clean out his garage. When I went to pick him up I noticed a 12 gauge extension cord, on a cord reel, on the pile of "junk". I asked my son what was wrong with it and he said it was cut so the guy was throwing it out. I told my son to put it in the back of my van. I stopped around the corner to check it out and smiled at what I saw. I stopped at the hardware store, picked up a socket and a plug, and less than an hour later I had a 6' 12 gauge cord and a 19' 12 gauge cord - and a cord reel. I must have used the 6' cord hundreds of times since then, inside and out, and the 19' has seen more projects than I can count. Pretty much the best three bucks I've ever spent. |
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RBM wrote:
"SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX |
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"SteveBell" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle |
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RBM wrote:
"SteveBell" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle Actually that might not be as strange as it seems. I knew a guy that had a really long extension cord with a receptacle box in the middle. He'd plug his contractor's saw into the receptacle and then further out he set up his miter saw system. With one cord, he spread his main powers tools out far enough to have all sorts of work room around each tool. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle Actually that might not be as strange as it seems. I knew a guy that had a really long extension cord with a receptacle box in the middle. He'd plug his contractor's saw into the receptacle and then further out he set up his miter saw system. With one cord, he spread his main powers tools out far enough to have all sorts of work room around each tool. I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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Nate Nagel wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle Actually that might not be as strange as it seems. I knew a guy that had a really long extension cord with a receptacle box in the middle. He'd plug his contractor's saw into the receptacle and then further out he set up his miter saw system. With one cord, he spread his main powers tools out far enough to have all sorts of work room around each tool. I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate nate What is your time worth? Do you have all those supplies in stock? Decent quality new cords simply aren't that expensive. -- aem sends... |
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RBM wrote:
"SteveBell" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle I used to work at an aerospace company in a big bullpen area--a whole floor with rows of desks and filing cabinets. Each row had a power cable that plugged into a floor receptacle at one end, then had a four-outlet junction box every six feet for 30 or 40 feet. The cable was as big as my thumb. This worked great, until some dumbass in the shop didn't get rid of an extension cord when the fire marshall told him to. On the next inspection, we were ordered not to ever, under any condition, use an extension cord anywhere in the entire facility. This was a plant with 200-odd buildings covering most of a square mile. Yeah, it was overkill, but the fire marshall has the power to shut you down until the case comes up in court, so all the cables were replaced with official power poles. A couple of hundred thousand dollars later, we were all official, but much less flexible. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX |
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The junction box makes it hard to wrap an extension cord and put in the tool
box. However, maybe extension chords wrap easier? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX |
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Sure makes it hard to roll up the extension cord.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever |
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Since they are cut up, and they are his. Would that be Dis-Chord?
"I cut dis chord again... it don't sound too good" -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... 1. If cutting into extension "chords" (are those major, minor, diminished or augmented chords?) is a recurring problem with you, perhaps you might want to review your work habits, rather than figure out how to repair extension cords. |
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How about extension chord?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve Barker DLT" wrote in message ... A bit of overkill for an extension cord. s "SteveBell" wrote in message ... The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX |
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You make us proud.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... rb wrote: A few years back my son was helping a friend of a friend of a friend (some rich lawyer guy) clean out his garage. When I went to pick him up I noticed a 12 gauge extension cord, on a cord reel, on the pile of "junk". I asked my son what was wrong with it and he said it was cut so the guy was throwing it out. I told my son to put it in the back of my van. I stopped around the corner to check it out and smiled at what I saw. I stopped at the hardware store, picked up a socket and a plug, and less than an hour later I had a 6' 12 gauge cord and a 19' 12 gauge cord - and a cord reel. I must have used the 6' cord hundreds of times since then, inside and out, and the 19' has seen more projects than I can count. Pretty much the best three bucks I've ever spent. |
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On a chord reel, to boot!
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "RBM" wrote in message ... Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle |
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I have a couple extension cords sitting outside (or are they chords? I'll
have to try to play them). Someday I'll catch a super discount price on outlet strips at Harbor Freight. Cut them in the middle. Splice plug on one end, and four or five sockets on the other end of the ext cord. Make a very versatile gadget. I have also used an outlet box, and a duplex outlet on the end of an extension cord (chord). -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle Actually that might not be as strange as it seems. I knew a guy that had a really long extension cord with a receptacle box in the middle. He'd plug his contractor's saw into the receptacle and then further out he set up his miter saw system. With one cord, he spread his main powers tools out far enough to have all sorts of work room around each tool. |
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Are you a surgeon, or an engineer?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. Remove obvious spamblock to reply. "Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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Not much.
Yes. I know. Please trim useless, excess text. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "aemeijers" wrote in message ... What is your time worth? Do you have all those supplies in stock? Decent quality new cords simply aren't that expensive. -- aem sends... |
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aemeijers wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... RBM wrote: "SteveBell" wrote in message ... rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? The correct way is to use a wirenut, properly enclosed in a junction box. If you don't want to put in a junction box, then you have to replace the entire wire. I sure don't see that kind of splice to often, or ever OK, I spent too much time in the trusses this morning. I read that as splicing accidentally-cut Romex for outdoor lights. Everybody else is right. Either replace the extension cord or cut it and put on new ends. On a positive note, my latest Habitat for Humanity house is almost weathered in. We had a crew of 30 volunteers (30!) today. We went from a slab eight days ago to completed walls and trusses today. (Don't look too closely at that truss we had to shave to compensate for a half-inch bump in the concrete.) What's left of Hurricane Ike sent us home today after half a day, or we would have finished the ladder trusses and been ready for roof decking. -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle Actually that might not be as strange as it seems. I knew a guy that had a really long extension cord with a receptacle box in the middle. He'd plug his contractor's saw into the receptacle and then further out he set up his miter saw system. With one cord, he spread his main powers tools out far enough to have all sorts of work room around each tool. I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate nate What is your time worth? Do you have all those supplies in stock? Decent quality new cords simply aren't that expensive. yes I do, because I do a lot of work on older cars. Heat shrink is your friend. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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In article , "RBM" wrote:
"rb" wrote in message ... I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? Unless you cut it in half, throw away the smaller length and install a male or female end on what's left And if you *did* cut it in half, put a male connector on one cut end, and a female connector on the other -- presto! *Two* extension cords. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) Join the UseNet Improvement Project: killfile Google Groups. http://www.improve-usenet.org Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com You must use your REAL email address to get a response. Download Nfilter at http://www.milmac.com/np-120.exe |
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Engineer (by degree if not practicing) why?
nate On Sep 13, 11:34*pm, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Are you a surgeon, or an engineer? "Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate |
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On Sep 13, 5:32*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
rb wrote: I'm running around looking for some device which will help me splice wires together. What is happening is I seem to cut into power extension chords on outside jobs. *I hamburger my way into cutting them occasionally, and need a way to splice 'em together. I'd like for it to be a way to not have too big a bulge in the line. Right now, I use butt connectors and insulate the chords individually, then wrap the whole connection. Any better ways to do this? A few years back my son was helping a friend of a friend of a friend (some rich lawyer guy) clean out his garage. When I went to pick him up I noticed a 12 gauge extension cord, on a cord reel, on the pile of "junk". I asked my son what was wrong with it and he said it was cut so the guy was throwing it out. *I told my son to put it in the back of my van. I stopped around the corner to check it out and smiled at what I saw. I stopped at the hardware store, picked up a socket and a plug, and less than an hour later I had a 6' 12 gauge cord and a 19' 12 gauge cord - and a cord reel. I must have used the 6' cord hundreds of times since then, inside and out, and the 19' has seen more projects than I can count. Pretty much the best three bucks I've ever spent. eh, I won't even splice an extension cord unless I need it right away. Reason being that the new ones being sold (at least the good, contractor grade ones) are nice and "limp" so they don't tangle so easily, are easy to wind up and store, etc. That said I *have* spliced extension cords in a pinch simply because it was quicker to solder it back together rather than run to the store and buy a new one, and I was in the middle of doing something that required aforementioned extension cord. nate |
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Usually engineers have highly technical and complicated answers to simple
problems. Tradesmen (that's me!) use wire nuts and lots of electrical tape. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "N8N" wrote in message ... Engineer (by degree if not practicing) why? nate On Sep 13, 11:34 pm, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Are you a surgeon, or an engineer? "Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate |
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You've reinvented frugal. Good job.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Doug Miller" wrote in message ... Unless you cut it in half, throw away the smaller length and install a male or female end on what's left And if you *did* cut it in half, put a male connector on one cut end, and a female connector on the other -- presto! *Two* extension cords. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) Join the UseNet Improvement Project: killfile Google Groups. http://www.improve-usenet.org Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com You must use your REAL email address to get a response. Download Nfilter at http://www.milmac.com/np-120.exe |
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Heatshrink, electrical tape, and a few other things. Essential for repar
guys. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... What is your time worth? Do you have all those supplies in stock? Decent quality new cords simply aren't that expensive. yes I do, because I do a lot of work on older cars. Heat shrink is your friend. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On 9/13/2008 8:35 PM Stormin Mormon spake thus:
Not much. Yes. I know. Please trim useless, excess text. Actually, you might want to do something about your mail/news settings that put all the quoted text into your sig, effectively disappearing it. Or maybe not. -- Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral. - Paulo Freire |
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It's not complicated, it's the right way to do it... of course the
"right" answer is "buy a new cord" or "make two shorter cords out of it" as others have posted, but if you're in a pinch and you HAVE to splice... using wire nuts in an extension cord will make a big knot of ugliness in the middle of it, increasing the chances that it'll get caught on something etc. nate On Sep 14, 9:06*pm, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Usually engineers have highly technical and complicated answers to simple problems. Tradesmen (that's me!) use wire nuts and lots of electrical tape. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "N8N" wrote in message ... Engineer (by degree if not practicing) why? nate On Sep 13, 11:34 pm, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Are you a surgeon, or an engineer? "Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... I would probably solder the individual wires together and cover them with heat shrink, then wrap with friction tape then finally electrical tape (or really big heat shrink if I had it) if this is going to be used in a wet location, before sliding the heat shrink over the splices, smear a little silicone grease on them to make absolutely sure that no water can get in and corrode the wires. nate- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Sep 13, 11:33*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: I have a couple extension cords sitting outside (or are they chords? I'll have to try to play them). Someday I'll catch a super discount price on outlet strips at Harbor Freight. Cut them in the middle. Splice plug on one end, and four or five sockets on the other end of the ext cord. Make a very versatile gadget. I have also used an outlet box, and a duplex outlet on the end of an extension cord (chord). -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "DerbyDad03" wrote in message wrote: Good job Steve. I had a good laugh picturing this guy carrying his fifty foot extension cord with a 1900 box spliced into the middle Actually that might not be as strange as it seems. I knew a guy that had a really long extension cord with a receptacle box in the middle. He'd plug his contractor's saw into the receptacle and then further out he set up his miter saw system. With one cord, he spread his main powers tools out far enough to have all sorts of work room around each tool. I have also used an outlet box, and a duplex outlet on the end of an extension cord (chord). Not only do I have one of those, but I also have a 2' extension cord with a GFCI on the end. I made that *long* before GFCI extension cords were readily available. I went to too many job sites that didn't have GFCI receptacles available. |
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