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[email protected] September 7th 08 02:39 AM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
Hello,

I'm working with some galvanized metal ( the stuff that you use to
take the smoke from a wood-burning fireplace out through the roof of a
house) that I'm bending into a box... about 16" x 4". It has the
right shape, but I want to make sure that it is waterproof as it is
going outside, and want to ensure that it will stand the test of time
in regards to moisture, heat, cold, etc. What is the best way to
ensure this? I've thought that maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? How about epoxy or liquid nails? How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?

Thanks

Joe September 7th 08 04:50 AM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
On Sep 6, 8:39*pm, wrote:
Hello,

I'm working with some galvanized metal ( the stuff that you use to
take the smoke from a wood-burning fireplace out through the roof of a
house) that I'm bending into a box... about 16" x 4". *It has the
right shape, but I want to make sure that it is waterproof as it is
going outside, and want to ensure that it will stand the test of time
in regards to moisture, heat, cold, etc. *What is the best way to
ensure this? *I've thought that maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? *How about epoxy or liquid nails? *How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?

Thanks


You won't find a soldering gun with enough heat to solder galvanized.
If you must experiment, buy a propane torch kit with a soldering tip
and adapter. You'll need 50/50 lead tin, modified acid liquid flux,
other soldering supplies. Your success will likely be limited, so to
be practical, take the next big step. Stop by a welding supply store
and buy a silver soldering kit. It will have a small roll of silver
solder and the proper flux. The propane torch is hot enough to do
light gage galvanized. Clamp your project seams with minimal gaps,
heat the metal to almost red and apply flux. Heat as needed to let the
flux flow, feed in a dab of silver solder to make the joint and allow
to cool. Silver solder is like brazing, but takes much lower
temperatures. It also works very well on stainless steel, so consider
that for your project. Cut off SS sheet pieces can be had at nominal
price at any sheet metal shop. The silver solder is pricey, but worth
it for what it can do. Enjoy.

Joe

[email protected] September 7th 08 03:20 PM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
On Sep 6, 9:39*pm, wrote:
Hello,

I'm working with some galvanized metal ( the stuff that you use to
take the smoke from a wood-burning fireplace out through the roof of a
house) that I'm bending into a box... about 16" x 4". *It has the
right shape, but I want to make sure that it is waterproof as it is
going outside, and want to ensure that it will stand the test of time
in regards to moisture, heat, cold, etc. *What is the best way to
ensure this? *I've thought that maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? *How about epoxy or liquid nails? *How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?

Thanks


If the galvanizing coating is not cracked or compromised, it
should be fine. If it is I don't think solder would work well. Some
sort of protective coating suitable to direct exposure to the elements
and any heat levels it might be exposed to would be the only choice.

dpb September 7th 08 03:40 PM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
wrote:
....
I'm working with some galvanized metal ...
... that I'm bending into a box... about 16" x 4". ...
... I want to make sure that it is waterproof as it is
going outside, and want to ensure that it will stand the test of time
in regards to moisture, heat, cold, etc. What is the best way to
ensure this? I've thought that maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? How about epoxy or liquid nails? How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?

....

http://www.uss.com/corp/sheet/coated/hotfab.htm

How are you planning on mounting the lid (I assume there must be an
access of some sort to get the contents into the box)?

If that has to have access, it'll need a good gasket or if access rarely
needed it could be caulked w/ a good rtv but will be a pita to get into.

--

HeyBub[_3_] September 7th 08 08:43 PM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
wrote:
Hello,

I'm working with some galvanized metal ( the stuff that you use to
take the smoke from a wood-burning fireplace out through the roof of a
house) that I'm bending into a box... about 16" x 4". It has the
right shape, but I want to make sure that it is waterproof as it is
going outside, and want to ensure that it will stand the test of time
in regards to moisture, heat, cold, etc. What is the best way to
ensure this? I've thought that maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? How about epoxy or liquid nails? How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?


Soldering is not usually dependable as a mechanical connection. Certainly
not for electrical stuff. Even in plumbing a solder joint should not be
subject to stress.

I'd go for rivets for the mechanical strength and the appropriate glue to
make it waterproof.



George September 9th 08 08:57 PM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:39:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Hello,

I'm working with some galvanized metal ... maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? How about epoxy or liquid nails? How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?



1. Solder pretty much means flux. Flux corrodes. It's surprisingly
hard to clean it all off.

2. Long ago, I did some brazing (oxy-acetylene) on galvanized. It did
some pretty scary (though apparently short-term) stuff to my lungs. If
you use flame for solder/silver solder/whatever, I suggest using serious
ventilation.

3. At least with the brazing I did, the heat destroyed the galvanize
coating.

G

boden September 9th 08 09:21 PM

Working with Galvanized Metal
 
George wrote:

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:39:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Hello,

I'm working with some galvanized metal ... maybe I should purchase a soldering
gun and put some solder on the joins...will this stand the test of
time? How about epoxy or liquid nails? How about using both solder
and some sort of adhesive?




1. Solder pretty much means flux. Flux corrodes. It's surprisingly
hard to clean it all off.

2. Long ago, I did some brazing (oxy-acetylene) on galvanized. It did
some pretty scary (though apparently short-term) stuff to my lungs. If
you use flame for solder/silver solder/whatever, I suggest using serious
ventilation.

I use a Racal/3M powered respirator with a long hose. The air inlet and
HEPA filter is about 50 ft outside of the boathouse I weld in. My lungs
thank me. I used to abuse them, but my one post retirement molecular
biology course convinced me that although I got away with doing stupid
things when I was young (like breathing bad stuff) I wasn't going to be
able to do it now.

3. At least with the brazing I did, the heat destroyed the galvanize
coating.

G



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