Left the house without turning off the water!???? naughty, naughty.


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I can tell you an icemaker story. A neighbor had GE service her
refrigerator and right after they were done left town for 2 weeks. When
she came back the house was flooded because the ice maker line had been
damaged when the refrigerator was pushed back into position. The good
part of the story is GE gave no arguement and paid to have her house
repaired.... which was quite extensive.

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Jerry wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:58 pm, "MLD" wrote:

pressure pulses. Get yourself a single lever Watts valve.
Like this?
http://www.pexsupply.com/Categories....D=610&brandid=

First I heard of this. Interesting. Convenient. Cheap insurance.

Jerry
Exactly, if you're handy you can put it in yourself. As noted below--a
one finger flip and both the hot and cold water are shutoff. A real
cheap solution- All these guys who say "Never" are going to eat their
words one day.
MLD





They are exactly what you described and also inexpensive. One quick
motion and the water is off. Those valves have become really common in
the past maybe 15 years or so. I don't think I have ever seen new
construction or remodeling where they weren't used. The local real
supply house has them in the area right behind the counter with the
other commonly sold stuff.

All right, I'm an idiot. How do you install the thing, assuming you get
the threaded variety? Unions above it?

The common version isn't threaded and is made to solder directly to your
1/2" tubing. They are simple to install and no unions etc are needed. You
remove the valve body to protect it from heat (two screws) and clean/flux
the fittings and do the same with the tubing. Sweat and put the valve body
back on.

That's the way but be honest, it's not quite that simple. Requires a bit
more work since the hot and cold lines must align with the valve etc. BTW,
if ever they leak you don't have to replace the whole valve. Get a new one
and just replace the innards using the old valve's body
MLD

Yeah, sure doesn't seem like duck soup to retrofit. First you'd have to
get the supply pipe spacing adjusted correctly. In my case I'd have to
work back a fair way just to get away from the walls far enough to even
get the paint off the old pipe.

I don't quite understand why they even make the threaded version.

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:13:18 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:17:03 -0400, wrote:

I can tell you an icemaker story. A neighbor had GE service her
refrigerator and right after they were done left town for 2 weeks. When she
came back the house was flooded because the ice maker line had been damaged
when the refrigerator was pushed back into position. The good part of the
story is GE gave no arguement and paid to have her house repaired.... which
was quite extensive.


I don't doubt it. None the less, the icemaker line normally presents a
far smaller risk than the two 1/2 inch washer hoses and the washing
machines internal plumbing.

The difference is probably about 1/4th the water per minute but it is
getting spilled in a lot more expensive place.


No, there are other differences that affect the likelyhood of simple
failure, and your flow estimate is also wildly wrong.

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:36:44 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:35:39 -0400, wrote:

The difference is probably about 1/4th the water per minute but it is
getting spilled in a lot more expensive place.


No, there are other differences that affect the likelyhood of simple
failure, and your flow estimate is also wildly wrong.

Why is it wrong? 1/4" pipe is roughly 1/4 the circular mils of 1/2"
pipe. (some refrigerators are plumbed with 3/8" to get better flow out
of "water in the door")

Since a large number of icemakers are hooked up with vinyl tubing and
the fridge itself is plumbed with vinyl tubing I see that as a greater
risk.

Cabinet bases are very susceptible to damage and replacing all the
base cabinets in a kitchen will be up in 5 figures. I don't see where
I am wrong.

I can't help you then. Sorry.

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On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:35:39 -0400, wrote:

The difference is probably about 1/4th the water per minute but it is
getting spilled in a lot more expensive place.


No, there are other differences that affect the likelyhood of simple
failure, and your flow estimate is also wildly wrong.

Why is it wrong? 1/4" pipe is roughly 1/4 the circular mils of 1/2"
pipe. (some refrigerators are plumbed with 3/8" to get better flow out
of "water in the door")

Since a large number of icemakers are hooked up with vinyl tubing and
the fridge itself is plumbed with vinyl tubing I see that as a greater
risk.

Cabinet bases are very susceptible to damage and replacing all the
base cabinets in a kitchen will be up in 5 figures. I don't see where
I am wrong.

Flow is a function of the Area. A= f (D^2) So if you double the diameter
you get 4 times the flow.
MLD