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Paul[_17_] August 25th 08 09:09 PM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
We live in a row home, built about 60 years ago. The pressure on the
2nd floor isn't the greatest due to the small (in diameter I believe)
copper pipes they installed when the house was first built. The
pressure isn't bad, you just don't get a real powerful flush.

Our previous plumber said it might be the... "flap"... I believe?

I don't think it's the ball and chain in the tank, that's just to keep
the toilet from always running and sets the level for the amount of
water to flush with (from what I know).

So is this an easy DIY job?

I'm wondering if the reason the toilet flushes 2 to 3 times is because
the pressure isn't so great, that any.. um.. "leftovers" that didn't
get flushed initially should be the 2nd, 3rd time around. But this
can't be true, i grew up in a row home and never experienced this, and
never experienced this really, ever.

Thanks

Runtime Error August 25th 08 09:14 PM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
"Paul" wrote in message
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We live in a row home, built about 60 years ago. The pressure on the
2nd floor isn't the greatest due to the small (in diameter I believe)
copper pipes they installed when the house was first built. The
pressure isn't bad, you just don't get a real powerful flush.

Our previous plumber said it might be the... "flap"... I believe?

I don't think it's the ball and chain in the tank, that's just to keep
the toilet from always running and sets the level for the amount of
water to flush with (from what I know).

So is this an easy DIY job?

I'm wondering if the reason the toilet flushes 2 to 3 times is because
the pressure isn't so great, that any.. um.. "leftovers" that didn't
get flushed initially should be the 2nd, 3rd time around. But this
can't be true, i grew up in a row home and never experienced this, and
never experienced this really, ever.

Thanks


If you've got a tank toilet, all low water pressure will do is increase the
tank refill time. Flushing force is based on water rushing from the tank
into the bowl and is controlled in large part by how long the flap stays up
and how far it clears the hole.

Sounds like you're not real clear on how the toilet works. Maybe start with
searching online for "how toilets work" or something similar.....



Don & Lucille August 25th 08 11:49 PM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
Check the holes in the rim of the toilet I use a broke off q-tip to clear
any!
"Paul" wrote in message
...
We live in a row home, built about 60 years ago. The pressure on the
2nd floor isn't the greatest due to the small (in diameter I believe)
copper pipes they installed when the house was first built. The
pressure isn't bad, you just don't get a real powerful flush.

Our previous plumber said it might be the... "flap"... I believe?

I don't think it's the ball and chain in the tank, that's just to keep
the toilet from always running and sets the level for the amount of
water to flush with (from what I know).

So is this an easy DIY job?

I'm wondering if the reason the toilet flushes 2 to 3 times is because
the pressure isn't so great, that any.. um.. "leftovers" that didn't
get flushed initially should be the 2nd, 3rd time around. But this
can't be true, i grew up in a row home and never experienced this, and
never experienced this really, ever.

Thanks




CL \dnoyeB\ Gilbert August 26th 08 03:42 AM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
Paul wrote:

We live in a row home, built about 60 years ago. The pressure on the
2nd floor isn't the greatest due to the small (in diameter I believe)
copper pipes they installed when the house was first built. The
pressure isn't bad, you just don't get a real powerful flush.

Our previous plumber said it might be the... "flap"... I believe?

I don't think it's the ball and chain in the tank, that's just to keep
the toilet from always running and sets the level for the amount of
water to flush with (from what I know).


The ball? You mean the float? Thats to tell when to stop filling the tank.
The chain is attached to the flapper. The plumber was right as you might
expect. Volume of flush is a function of the flapper. You can buy
adjustable flappers from a hardware store. Adjust it down so that it only
does a single flush. Save yourself a lot of water that way. Do extra
flush only when needed.


So is this an easy DIY job?


Very.


I'm wondering if the reason the toilet flushes 2 to 3 times is because
the pressure isn't so great, that any.. um.. "leftovers" that didn't
get flushed initially should be the 2nd, 3rd time around. But this
can't be true, i grew up in a row home and never experienced this, and
never experienced this really, ever.


Your basically saying the toilet forms a vortex a few times right? So the
water empties twice. This is because the flapper stays afloat too long.



Thanks




Paul[_17_] August 26th 08 04:59 PM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
On Aug 25, 10:42*pm, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote:
Paul wrote:
We live in a row home, built about 60 years ago. The pressure on the
2nd floor isn't the greatest due to the small (in diameter I believe)
copper pipes they installed when the house was first built. The
pressure isn't bad, you just don't get a real powerful flush.


Our previous plumber said it might be the... "flap"... I believe?


I don't think it's the ball and chain in the tank, that's just to keep
the toilet from always running and sets the level for the amount of
water to flush with (from what I know).


The ball? *You mean the float? *Thats to tell when to stop filling the tank.
The chain is attached to the flapper. *The plumber was right as you might
expect. *Volume of flush is a function of the flapper. *You can buy
adjustable flappers from a hardware store. *Adjust it down so that it only
does a single flush. *Save yourself a lot of water that way. *Do extra
flush only when needed.



So is this an easy DIY job?


Very.

I'm wondering if the reason the toilet flushes 2 to 3 times is because
the pressure isn't so great, that any.. um.. "leftovers" that didn't
get flushed initially should be the 2nd, 3rd time around. But this
can't be true, i grew up in a row home and never experienced this, and
never experienced this really, ever.


Your basically saying the toilet forms a vortex a few times right? *So the
water empties twice. *This is because the flapper stays afloat too long..





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The toilet flushes the first time, and as the water begins to
immediately fill back up, about halfway i guess, it starts to flush
again. I think I've even seen it do it a 3rd time.

SteveBell August 27th 08 12:20 AM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
Paul wrote:

On Aug 25, 10:42*pm, "CL \"dnoyeB\" Gilbert" wrote:
Paul wrote:
We live in a row home, built about 60 years ago. The pressure on
the 2nd floor isn't the greatest due to the small (in diameter I
believe) copper pipes they installed when the house was first
built. The pressure isn't bad, you just don't get a real powerful
flush.


Our previous plumber said it might be the... "flap"... I believe?


I don't think it's the ball and chain in the tank, that's just to
keep the toilet from always running and sets the level for the
amount of water to flush with (from what I know).


The ball? *You mean the float? *Thats to tell when to stop filling
the tank. The chain is attached to the flapper. *The plumber was
right as you might expect. *Volume of flush is a function of the
flapper. *You can buy adjustable flappers from a hardware store.
*Adjust it down so that it only does a single flush. *Save yourself
a lot of water that way. *Do extra flush only when needed.

So is this an easy DIY job?


Very.

I'm wondering if the reason the toilet flushes 2 to 3 times is
because the pressure isn't so great, that any.. um.. "leftovers"
that didn't get flushed initially should be the 2nd, 3rd time
around. But this can't be true, i grew up in a row home and never
experienced this, and never experienced this really, ever.


Your basically saying the toilet forms a vortex a few times right?
*So the water empties twice. *This is because the flapper stays
afloat too long.


The toilet flushes the first time, and as the water begins to
immediately fill back up, about halfway i guess, it starts to flush
again. I think I've even seen it do it a 3rd time.


I suspect your vent stack might be plugged, inadequate, or non-existent.

The vent stack is the pipe attached to the toilet drain that runs up
through the roof and lets air out of the system. When you flush, the
water rushing down the drain pushes some air ahead of it. The air is
supposed to go up the vent stack.

If the vent stack is not working properly, you get all sorts of odd
symptoms, one of which is incomplete flush. One way to clean out the
vent stack is to run a garden hose down from the roof.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

David Combs September 23rd 08 05:22 AM

After initial flush, toilet flushed 1 - 2 more times
 
In article ,
Don & Lucille wrote:
Check the holes in the rim of the toilet I use a broke off q-tip to clear
any!


My plumber says he always uses an unfolded paper-clip.


David




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