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MagicJack suggests on their FAQ's that to save power you can
turn your monitor off and shut the hard drive down within the
control panel of your computer. I believe they are suggesting
the standby mode even though they don't say "standby"

Any ways my question is this. Instead of shutting the computer down
it would be nice to put the computer in standby during the night so
that calls could still be answered. However on my computer as long as
the USB MagicJack is plugged into the computer the computer refuses to
go into standby. Can you put your MagicJack equipped computer into
standby, or is it just me that can't?
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On Aug 14, 8:47*pm, wrote:
MagicJack suggests on their FAQ's that to save power you can
turn your monitor off and shut the hard drive down within the
control panel of your computer. I believe they are suggesting
the standby mode even though they don't say "standby"

Any ways my question is this. Instead of shutting the computer down
it would *be nice to put the computer in standby during the night so
that calls could still be answered. However on my computer as long as
the USB MagicJack is plugged into the computer the computer refuses to
go into standby. Can you put your MagicJack *equipped computer into
standby, or is it just me that can't?


I wonder if what you save in your phone bill isnt negated by computer
electric consumption, 100w, 24 x 7 x 30 = $15 a month for me.
Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that, my landline is
cheaper I figured and my computer will last longer. Standby mode would
help alot.
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On Aug 14, 8:47*pm, wrote:
MagicJack suggests on their FAQ's that to save power you can
turn your monitor off and shut the hard drive down within the
control panel of your computer. I believe they are suggesting
the standby mode even though they don't say "standby"

Any ways my question is this. Instead of shutting the computer down
it would *be nice to put the computer in standby during the night so
that calls could still be answered. However on my computer as long as
the USB MagicJack is plugged into the computer the computer refuses to
go into standby. Can you put your MagicJack *equipped computer into
standby, or is it just me that can't?


I wonder if what you save in your phone bill isnt negated by computer
electric consumption, 100w, 24 x 7 x 30 = $15 a month for me.
Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that, my landline is
cheaper I figured and my computer will last longer. Standby mode would
help alot.


If the computer is solely on for the phone then yes you can spend $15
a month on electricity. Seeing how my computer is on anyway's I would
only have the computer on for the extra 10 hours during the night and
it would cost me $5 for 200 watts per hour.
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ransley wrote:

I wonder if what you save in your phone bill isnt negated by computer
electric consumption, 100w, 24 x 7 x 30 = $15 a month for me.
Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that, my landline is
cheaper I figured and my computer will last longer. Standby mode would
help alot.


I suspect you meant 100w x 24 x 30 to get the $15 per month, around
20 cents per KWH?

actually, typical computers 'idling' along (not in standby) draw somewhat
less than most folks think. With the Monitor (40 watts for LCD and
around 85 watts for CRT) powered down, laptops use around 35
watts and desktops around 60 watts). add another 15 watts for
router and modem. These are broad swags drawn from:

http://www.upenn.edu/computing/provi...owerusage.html

This would drop the idle computer's power noticably below 100 watts,
especially laptops, when used for 24/7 MagicJack.

What does your landline cost monthly with all fees and taxes? Mine
from ATT was $33/mo with *no* options and *no* long distance.
$7 to $15 per month for MJ power is much cheaper. Not to
mention a good set of call options and free domestic MJ LD..
Around $30 per month saved would buy a new PC in fairly
short order.

My power consumption is much lower about 12 hours, 5 days
a week. (I let MJ VM catch calls when powered off). I'm
away from this location two days a week. I also use my PC,
with a FM/TV/Graphics card for sound, cable, and ota tv,
so I'm not burning power on a TV/Stereo.

I'm looking forward to the MJ port to linux, then we can do a
flash drive based MJ 'ATA' on a cheap laptop with a busted
display. A poorboy MJ thin-client.

I noticed today that Intel has launched a series of MotherBoards
That can 'wake' on voip and lan. Looks promising.










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ransley wrote:
On Aug 14, 8:47 pm, wrote:
MagicJack suggests on their FAQ's that to save power you can
turn your monitor off and shut the hard drive down within the
control panel of your computer. I believe they are suggesting
the standby mode even though they don't say "standby"

Any ways my question is this. Instead of shutting the computer down
it would be nice to put the computer in standby during the night so
that calls could still be answered. However on my computer as long as
the USB MagicJack is plugged into the computer the computer refuses
to go into standby. Can you put your MagicJack equipped computer into
standby, or is it just me that can't?


I wonder if what you save in your phone bill isnt negated by computer
electric consumption, 100w, 24 x 7 x 30 = $15 a month for me.
Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that, my landline is
cheaper I figured and my computer will last longer. Standby mode would
help alot.


Alternatively, you don't need a computer for something like Vonage (if
you're already paying for high-speed internet). Some amount per month
($19.95) and you get a real telephone number (you get to pick your area
code*) and all the bells and whistles: caller-id, call waiting, voice mail,
3-way calling, call forwarding, yak-yak-yak, plus all the long distance you
can eat.

This $19.95/month is it. No sales tax, Spanish-American War tax, Al Gore
tax, universal access fee, 911 connection fee, fuel surcharge, physical
plant recovery fee, whatever. $19.95 per month, period.

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* This comes in hand if all your relatives are in, say, Boston. You can get
617 area code and, when they call you, it's a local call. Or, if you live in
Dead Rabbit, Oklahoma and want all your customers to think you're high-tech,
you can get a Palo Alto, California area code.


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Alternatively, you don't need a computer for something like Vonage (if
you're already paying for high-speed internet). Some amount per month
($19.95) and you get a real telephone number (you get to pick your area
code*) and all the bells and whistles: caller-id, call waiting, voice mail,
3-way calling, call forwarding, yak-yak-yak, plus all the long distance you
can eat.

This $19.95/month is it. No sales tax, Spanish-American War tax, Al Gore
tax, universal access fee, 911 connection fee, fuel surcharge, physical
plant recovery fee, whatever. $19.95 per month, period.

-------
* This comes in hand if all your relatives are in, say, Boston. You can get
617 area code and, when they call you, it's a local call. Or, if you live in
Dead Rabbit, Oklahoma and want all your customers to think you're high-tech,
you can get a Palo Alto, California area code.


You can chose your area code and get free Voicemail, Caller ID ect
with MagicJack for just $19.95 a year.
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HeyBub wrote:

Alternatively, you don't need a computer for something like Vonage (if
you're already paying for high-speed internet). Some amount per month
($19.95) and you get a real telephone number (you get to pick your area
code*) and all the bells and whistles: caller-id, call waiting, voice mail,
3-way calling, call forwarding, yak-yak-yak, plus all the long distance you
can eat.


Pretty much the same as MagicJack which is also 19.95 . . but per *year* g

* This comes in hand if all your relatives are in, say, Boston. You can get
617 area code and, when they call you, it's a local call. Or, if you live in
Dead Rabbit, Oklahoma and want all your customers to think you're high-tech,
you can get a Palo Alto, California area code.


Pick your area code with MJ, as well. Can also dial/receive overseas MJ
users, thru their US/Canada MJ number. A handy thing with MJ is
that you can stick it in your pocket and use it on the road in any
broadband connected PC. It's smaller than a pack of cigs and
weighs one ounce.


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ransley's wrong again:

Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that...


Think about the $75 2-watt Norhtec 486 clone.

Nick

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metspitzer wrote:

Think about the $75 2-watt Norhtec 486 clone.


Nope.


OK. Don't think :-)

With only one hard drive, most (idle) computers are still under 150W.
I would say under 100W.


I'd say 2 watts max for the PC above.

Add about 15W per hard drive.


What hard drive?

It's about 4"x4"x2" tall, with no hard drive or keyboard or display, just
connectors, including 3 USB. We added Ubuntu linux with a 1-wire file
system (OWFS) on a $10 1 GB flash ram to handle a string of $2 Dallas
sensors that respond with a 12 bit temperature after they see their
factory-programmed 64-bit address go by on a single shared twisted pair.

The best part is Ubuntu's bwbasic, which is almost identical to gwbasic :-)

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George wrote:

Unfortunately Magicjack needs an energy wasting full blown computer with
a GUI OS running their proprietary client just to use it.


Nope. Use an older XP laptop with a busted screen and/or busted
keyboard. Plug in a monitor and keyboard and install MagicJack.
Unplug the monitor/keyboard, plug a telephone into the MJ
and you've got an ATA (analog telephone adaptor). Uses around
20 watts of AC. About a dime a day.

The MJ and its services are fully accessible from a standard phone,
no need to use the MJ GUI/window on a computer screen. Screen
and keyboard not required.

We have VoIP in the office and the two line ATA is
just an efficient tiny box with a dedicated processor.


And I strongly suspect that you're paying a heck of a lot more
than $20 per year to rent the ATA and the two line service, yes?

Another way to view the MJ is to use it as a simple, cheap computer
accessory. We use sound cards to listen to music, tuner cards for
radio and TV, why not add a phone to the mix? Especially a
phone adaptor you can carry in your pocket and use most
anywhere? Savings on long distance easily pays for it. I often
spend 12 hours per day on a computer, it's mighty handy to
have MJ/caller ID popup on incoming calls.




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On 16 Aug 2008 10:56:40 -0400, wrote:

metspitzer wrote:

Think about the $75 2-watt Norhtec 486 clone.


Nope.


OK. Don't think :-)

I was replying to the statement that the computers used from 100-500
watts.

Guess I did that wrong.

Sorry
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George wrote:

Unfortunately Magicjack needs an energy wasting full blown computer with
a GUI OS running their proprietary client just to use it.


Nope. Use an older XP laptop with a busted screen and/or busted
keyboard. Plug in a monitor and keyboard and install MagicJack.
Unplug the monitor/keyboard, plug a telephone into the MJ
and you've got an ATA (analog telephone adaptor). Uses around
20 watts of AC. About a dime a day.


Any likely you know that laptops don't do well in 24x7 service. Pity you
even need to haybale something like this.


The MJ and its services are fully accessible from a standard phone, no
need to use the MJ GUI/window on a computer screen. Screen
and keyboard not required.

We have VoIP in the office and the two line ATA is
just an efficient tiny box with a dedicated processor.


And I strongly suspect that you're paying a heck of a lot more
than $20 per year to rent the ATA and the two line service, yes?


Sure, but it needs to work and we needed to be able to port our existing
numbers which is impossible with magicjack. Also when magicjack goes out
of business it would likely be pretty involved to get our now unworking
numbers released for porting.


Another way to view the MJ is to use it as a simple, cheap computer
accessory. We use sound cards to listen to music, tuner cards for
radio and TV, why not add a phone to the mix? Especially a
phone adaptor you can carry in your pocket and use most
anywhere? Savings on long distance easily pays for it. I often
spend 12 hours per day on a computer, it's mighty handy to
have MJ/caller ID popup on incoming calls.



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George wrote:
Leroy wrote:
George wrote:

Unfortunately Magicjack needs an energy wasting full blown computer with
a GUI OS running their proprietary client just to use it.


Nope. Use an older XP laptop with a busted screen and/or busted
keyboard. Plug in a monitor and keyboard and install MagicJack.
Unplug the monitor/keyboard, plug a telephone into the MJ
and you've got an ATA (analog telephone adaptor). Uses around
20 watts of AC. About a dime a day.


Any likely you know that laptops don't do well in 24x7 service. Pity you
even need to haybale something like this.


I was showing that MJ doesn't require a 'full blown', power hungry
computer nor a GUI. I really don't consider a laptop on an out of
the way shelf 'haybaling'. And thank you for the pity, but I really don't
need or appreciate it.



The MJ and its services are fully accessible from a standard phone, no
need to use the MJ GUI/window on a computer screen. Screen
and keyboard not required.

We have VoIP in the office and the two line ATA is
just an efficient tiny box with a dedicated processor.


And I strongly suspect that you're paying a heck of a lot more
than $20 per year to rent the ATA and the two line service, yes?


Sure, but it needs to work and we needed to be able to port our existing
numbers which is impossible with magicjack. Also when magicjack goes out
of business it would likely be pretty involved to get our now unworking
numbers released for porting.


I have not and would not recommend MJ for business use. For that
matter I'd not recommend any voip for business service without an
automatic landline switchover. But, for personal, residential use,
it's been more than adequate for me.


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Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that...


Think about the $75 2-watt Norhtec 486 clone.

Nick


Unfortunately Magicjack needs an energy wasting full blown computer with
a GUI OS running their proprietary client just to use it. When the
class of machine you mentioned (or less) is all it takes to implement an
ATA to support VoIP. We have VoIP in the office and the two line ATA is
just an efficient tiny box with a dedicated processor.


My desktop PC at home runs 24/7 regardless, primarily for business reasons.
If I don't happen to turn of the monitor when I go to bed, it powers off
after a specified period of time, as do the hard drives. While I don't
have one (yet), I see absolutely no reason why Magicjack would add
significantly to the overhead. If I had a MJ and tested successfully
running a fax through it, I could also cancel my land line. We don't use
it for phone purposes anyway. We either use our Blackberries or cell
phones for all phone calls.

I really don't see what all the fuss is all about.

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George wrote:

Obviously I hit a raw nerve.


You really don't have that power.

You really want this to work


Not a matter of want, it is working.

and view any
comments as an attack rather than an observation from someone who does
understand what is required to run a VoIP business and why it is very
likely magicjack has an unsustainable business model.


Well, pardon me for questioning one with such technical
and business acumen. It took several posts, but you finally said
you think MJ will fail, rather than hinting around. It may, indeed, fail
but in the meanwhile I'm getting a great deal on phone service without
feeding the telecom giants.

No examples I give
will ever make any sense to you because you want to believe that
magicjack is somehow "magic".


This sounds like the words of a condescending mindreader to me.
You don't suffer from a lack of ego, do you?

Lets just agree to disagree.


Why? I agree that MJ may fail. I just intend to ride it while it
hasn't.

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT), ransley
wrote:

On Aug 14, 8:47*pm, wrote:
MagicJack suggests on their FAQ's that to save power you can
turn your monitor off and shut the hard drive down within the
control panel of your computer. I believe they are suggesting
the standby mode even though they don't say "standby"

Any ways my question is this. Instead of shutting the computer down
it would *be nice to put the computer in standby during the night so
that calls could still be answered. However on my computer as long as
the USB MagicJack is plugged into the computer the computer refuses to
go into standby. Can you put your MagicJack *equipped computer into
standby, or is it just me that can't?


I wonder if what you save in your phone bill isnt negated by computer
electric consumption, 100w, 24 x 7 x 30 = $15 a month for me.
Computers consume 100 to maybe 500w, think about that, my landline is
cheaper I figured and my computer will last longer. Standby mode would
help alot.


If the computer is solely on for the phone then yes you can spend $15
a month on electricity. Seeing how my computer is on anyway's I would
only have the computer on for the extra 10 hours during the night and
it would cost me $5 for 200 watts per hour.


And I would have the computer doing something useful, like BOINC
(
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/) rather than just sitting around waiting
for you to use the phone.

BTW, BOINC is good about getting out of the way when you want to use
the computer yourself.
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And I would have the computer doing something useful, like BOINC
(http://boinc.berkeley.edu/) rather than just sitting around waiting
for you to use the phone.

BTW, BOINC is good about getting out of the way when you want to use
the computer yourself.


Or you could use it for SETI. They just found bigfoot in Georgia.
Maybe ET is next. grin



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I really don't see what all the fuss is all about.


Go ahead and get one, Wayne. We could use you for an unbiased
reviewer. I really hope you get one and get it to work. My money is
that you won't give up your current phone. You may find it good
enough for a second line. I hope so.

Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$

That is all it will cost you to test drive it.

Good luck

You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. I know you are listening. What is
2.50$ ? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:11:33 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

And I would have the computer doing something useful, like BOINC
(http://boinc.berkeley.edu/) rather than just sitting around waiting
for you to use the phone.

BTW, BOINC is good about getting out of the way when you want to use
the computer yourself.


Or you could use it for SETI.


SETI is one of many scientific projects available for BOINC.

They just found bigfoot in Georgia.


That would be YETI@home , here's a link: http://www.phobe.com/yeti/.

Maybe ET is next. grin

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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:54:54 -0400, metspitzer
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:11:33 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

And I would have the computer doing something useful, like BOINC
(http://boinc.berkeley.edu/) rather than just sitting around waiting
for you to use the phone.

BTW, BOINC is good about getting out of the way when you want to use
the computer yourself.


Or you could use it for SETI.


SETI is one of many scientific projects available for BOINC.

They just found bigfoot in Georgia.


That would be YETI@home , here's a link: http://www.phobe.com/yeti/.


Funny; last night on the local news (the "Bigfoot" crap was announced in
a hotel down here in Palo Alto), one station ran a quick debunking of
this whole "Yeti" nonsense by Seth Shostak, one of the SETI scientists.


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that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
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Or you could use it for SETI.


SETI is one of many scientific projects available for BOINC.


To be more exact, SETI@home, their "distributed computing"
search-for-LGM[1] project.

They just found bigfoot in Georgia.


Here's an amusing account of the Bigfoot press conference from a
reporter who was the
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci...835?source=rss


[1] Little green men


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will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
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On Aug 16, 8:24*pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
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That would be YETI@home , here's a link:http://www.phobe.com/yeti/.


Funny; last night on the local news (the "Bigfoot" crap was announced in
a hotel down here in Palo Alto), one station ran a quick debunking of
this whole "Yeti" nonsense by Seth Shostak, one of the SETI scientists.


They spoofed us. Of course, I never expected anything else from "The
Bigfoot Hunter" himself.

On Fox News Megan Kelly asked Tom "Bigfoot Hunter" Bascardi.....why
not let us have a look at it? He said........when we have the press
conference, we want you there. He never came out and said she could
see it then, but the implication was that she would be able to see it.

The guy that claims he has it is a Georgia policeman. He and his
website have been getting death threats from other Bigfoot hunters.

I don't think for a second that Fox News actually thought they had a
Bigfoot, but presented the "expert" as credible in the initial
interview. What a crock.

The day of the conference, no one was taking it seriously.



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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:10:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
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I really don't see what all the fuss is all about.


Go ahead and get one, Wayne. We could use you for an unbiased
reviewer. I really hope you get one and get it to work. My money is
that you won't give up your current phone. You may find it good
enough for a second line. I hope so.

Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$

That is all it will cost you to test drive it.

Good luck

You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. I know you are listening. What is
2.50$ ? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.


It sounds interesting. I guess I'm waiting to see if I hear of any
major problems.
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:03:03 -0400, metspitzer
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:10:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:

I really don't see what all the fuss is all about.


Go ahead and get one, Wayne. We could use you for an unbiased
reviewer. I really hope you get one and get it to work. My money is
that you won't give up your current phone. You may find it good
enough for a second line. I hope so.

Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$

That is all it will cost you to test drive it.

Good luck

You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. I know you are listening. What is
2.50$ ? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.


It sounds interesting. I guess I'm waiting to see if I hear of any
major problems.


Worst case scenario is you will have to pack it up and ship it back.

You might be one of the thousands that plug it in and it works
perfectly without giving it any thought.

It would be nice to use you and Wayne as a sample group of 2, and see
what percent of the sample group can just plug it in and start making
calls.

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I really don't see what all the fuss is all about.


Go ahead and get one, Wayne. We could use you for an unbiased
reviewer. I really hope you get one and get it to work. My money is
that you won't give up your current phone. You may find it good
enough for a second line. I hope so.

Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$

That is all it will cost you to test drive it.

Good luck

You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. I know you are listening. What is 2.50$
? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.


It sounds interesting. I guess I'm waiting to see if I hear of any
major problems.


I think I'll be waiting a bit too, Mark. It's not really that high on my
priority list.

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On Aug 17, 9:07*am, metspitzer wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:31:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd



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On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:03:03 -0400, metspitzer
wrote:


On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:10:12 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:


I really don't see what all the fuss is all about.


Go ahead and get one, Wayne. *We could use you for an unbiased
reviewer. *I really hope you get one and get it to work. *My money is
that you won't give up your current phone. *You may find it good
enough for a second line. *I hope so.


Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. *I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$


That is all it will cost you to test drive it.


Good luck


You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. *I know you are listening. *What is
2.50$ ? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.


It sounds interesting. I guess I'm waiting to see if I hear of any
major problems.


Worst case scenario is you will have to pack it up and ship it back.

You might be one of the thousands that plug it in and it works
perfectly without giving it any thought.

It would be nice to use you and Wayne as a sample group of 2, and see
what percent of the sample group can just plug it in and start making
calls. *


I got MagicJack but when I installed it the pull down menu was blank
and I could not select an area code to create a telephone number. I
spent 5 days on the phone with the tech support but nothing worked. I
returned it and immediately recieved a full refund. It was recommended
to me by a friend who has used it for months with no problems.
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On Aug 17, 9:07 am, metspitzer wrote:

Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$


That is all it will cost you to test drive it.


Good luck


You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. I know you are listening. What is
2.50$ ? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.


It sounds interesting. I guess I'm waiting to see if I hear of any
major problems.


Worst case scenario is you will have to pack it up and ship it back.

You might be one of the thousands that plug it in and it works
perfectly without giving it any thought.

It would be nice to use you and Wayne as a sample group of 2, and see
what percent of the sample group can just plug it in and start making
calls.


I got MagicJack but when I installed it the pull down menu was blank
and I could not select an area code to create a telephone number. I
spent 5 days on the phone with the tech support but nothing worked. I
returned it and immediately recieved a full refund. It was recommended
to me by a friend who has used it for months with no problems.



I had one for a few weeks. Call quality was unpredictable. Sometimes just
fine, too often there was a nasty echo, dialed calls rarely went through the
first time ("the number you dialed is not a working number) so I got to
exercise the REDIAL button on my phone. I also found the popup window on
incoming calls annoying as well as having to minimize it on outgoing calls.

My summary: pretty darn slick technology at the right price...but not quite
ready for prime time. Regretfully, I sent it back.




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On Aug 17, 9:07 am, metspitzer wrote:

Anyway, I saw a Magic Jack ad today that says they even pay return
shipping. I shipped mine back for less than 2.50$


That is all it will cost you to test drive it.


Good luck


You get one, too, Mark Lloyd. I know you are listening. What is
2.50$ ? It kept me entertained for a couple of weeks.


It sounds interesting. I guess I'm waiting to see if I hear of any
major problems.


Worst case scenario is you will have to pack it up and ship it back.

You might be one of the thousands that plug it in and it works
perfectly without giving it any thought.

It would be nice to use you and Wayne as a sample group of 2, and see
what percent of the sample group can just plug it in and start making
calls.


I got MagicJack but when I installed it the pull down menu was blank
and I could not select an area code to create a telephone number. I
spent 5 days on the phone with the tech support but nothing worked. I
returned it and immediately recieved a full refund. It was recommended
to me by a friend who has used it for months with no problems.



I had one for a few weeks. Call quality was unpredictable. Sometimes just
fine, too often there was a nasty echo, dialed calls rarely went through the
first time ("the number you dialed is not a working number) so I got to
exercise the REDIAL button on my phone. I also found the popup window on
incoming calls annoying as well as having to minimize it on outgoing calls.

My summary: pretty darn slick technology at the right price...but not quite
ready for prime time. Regretfully, I sent it back.

I could have put up with hit and miss calling had the voice mail been
reliable. It sucked the most. It would have been nice to get an
email with the voice recordings of the callers, but that never worked
for me. The emails I got with a voice attachment were blank.


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