The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

mm wrote:
The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

Sorry, no clue. Where is the show?

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:58:59 -0500, Chris wrote:

mm wrote:
The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

Sorry, no clue. Where is the show?

PBS, Wednesday at 8PM.

mm wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:58:59 -0500, Chris wrote:

mm wrote:
The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?
Sorry, no clue. Where is the show?

PBS, Wednesday at 8PM.

Cool. thanks!

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0400, mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

The radio show doesn't really have regular characters other than C&C
themselves. They do talk about their parents, their sister, and one
of Ray's mechanics (Crusty) from time to time, and on occasion they
mention other friends and relatives. But the vast majority of the
time it's just Tom and Ray.

On Aug 14, 10:56*am, (Bill) wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0400, mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? *Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

The radio show doesn't really have regular characters other than C&C
themselves. *They do talk about their parents, their sister, and one
of Ray's mechanics (Crusty) from time to time, and on occasion they
mention other friends and relatives. *But the vast majority of the
time it's just Tom and Ray.

If you listen to the credits at the end of the radio show, you'll hear
a long list of other characters that are associated with the show -

Corporate Spokesperson: Hugh Lyon Sack
Communications Director: George Stayontopothis
Staff Meteorologist: Gail Storm

There's a fairly extensive list he

http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/1996/1996BZN.html

Perhaps some of the "extras" on the TV show are from that list.

(I stumbled across the TV show once but never hung around to watch. I
think I had to actually go fix my car or something like that.)

Blattus Slafaly wrote:
mm wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?


They should call it Clink and Clank, as the wrench drops.
Or How to Laugh at nothing.



I watched the first epiosode of the TV show and can't say I was
impressed enough to watch again.

However, I am on their email list for the weekly Car Talk "Puzzler"
quiz, and one of my sons and I enjoy seeing which of us can come up with
the correct answers to those questions first.

Click and Clack were the 1999 commencement speakers at my alma mater,
quite an honor to bestow upon them:

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1999/c...ackspeech.html

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:20:22 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Aug 14, 10:56*am, (Bill) wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0400, mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? *Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

The radio show doesn't really have regular characters other than C&C
themselves. *They do talk about their parents, their sister, and one
of Ray's mechanics (Crusty) from time to time, and on occasion they
mention other friends and relatives. *But the vast majority of the
time it's just Tom and Ray.

If you listen to the credits at the end of the radio show, you'll hear
a long list of other characters that are associated with the show -

Corporate Spokesperson: Hugh Lyon Sack
Communications Director: George Stayontopothis
Staff Meteorologist: Gail Storm

Gale Storm, btw, was a real person (though her given name was
Josephine Owaissa Cottle). I know her mostly from a sitcom in the
50's where she played a girl about 18 who was living at home, or the
more I think about it, maybe she was in her 20's or 30's, lived on her
own, and dropped by her uncle's office. My Little Margie. She did
other stuff too. Wow, Wikipedia says she was on 8 years, counting
the Gale Storm Show. How many of you remember ZaSu Pits

There's a fairly extensive list he

http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/1996/1996BZN.html

Perhaps some of the "extras" on the TV show are from that list.

Maybe. I don't even know their names yet.

(I stumbled across the TV show once but never hung around to watch. I
think I had to actually go fix my car or something like that.)

In my case, the decent tv shortage has made an intellectual out of me.
Finally I'm watching PBS!

On Aug 14, 11:20 am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:56 am, (Bill) wrote:



On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0400, mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

The radio show doesn't really have regular characters other than C&C
themselves. They do talk about their parents, their sister, and one
of Ray's mechanics (Crusty) from time to time, and on occasion they
mention other friends and relatives. But the vast majority of the
time it's just Tom and Ray.

If you listen to the credits at the end of the radio show, you'll hear
a long list of other characters that are associated with the show -

Corporate Spokesperson: Hugh Lyon Sack
Communications Director: George Stayontopothis
Staff Meteorologist: Gail Storm

There's a fairly extensive list he

http://www.langston.com/Fun_People/1996/1996BZN.html

Perhaps some of the "extras" on the TV show are from that list.

(I stumbled across the TV show once but never hung around to watch. I
think I had to actually go fix my car or something like that.)


My favorite is the director of repeat business-

Lucinda Boltz


Dave

Jeff Wisnia wrote:

I watched the first epiosode of the TV show and can't say I was
impressed enough to watch again.

Agreed, my wife loves their radio show and even she found the TV show
awfully lame. My view is they desperately need some good writers and a
director who can throw out whatever doesn't work. At the moment it looks
like something done by a community college animation class where there is no
such thing as a bad idea, it's unfocused and erratic.

On 8/14/2008 8:20 AM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

On Aug 14, 10:56 am, (Bill) wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0400, mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

The radio show doesn't really have regular characters other than C&C
themselves. They do talk about their parents, their sister, and one
of Ray's mechanics (Crusty) from time to time, and on occasion they
mention other friends and relatives. But the vast majority of the
time it's just Tom and Ray.

If you listen to the credits at the end of the radio show, you'll hear
a long list of other characters that are associated with the show -

Corporate Spokesperson: Hugh Lyon Sack
Communications Director: George Stayontopothis
Staff Meteorologist: Gail Storm

From the Click & Clack t-shirt somebody gave me:

Our studio repair technician is Sloan Cranky
Our ethics director is Maura Lee Flexible
Our director of grad school transportation is Iona Heap
Our accounts payable administrator is Imelda Czechs
Our assistant customer care representative is Kurt Reply
Our Car Talk opera critic is Barbara Seville
Our chairman of the federal lubrication board is Alan Greasepan
Our staff bicycle tester is Maya Certz
Our practical joke evaluator is Odessa Goodwyn
Our child transportation specialist is Minnie Van Driver
Our credit counselor is Max Stout
Our director of delicate electronics repair is Anita Hammer
Our employee terminator is Laura Deboom
Our liaison to the space program is Roger Houston
Our shop foreman is Luke Bizz
Our proofreader is Erin Spelling
Our new truck receiver is Zbigniew Rigg
Our puzzler tester is Otis S. Hard
Our staff cooks are Al Dente and Sal Monella
Our staff geneticist is Dr. Jean Poole
And of course, our chief counsel, from the firm of Dewey,
Cheatham and Howe, is Hugh Louis Dewey


--
"Wikipedia ... it reminds me ... of dogs barking idiotically through
endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it.
It drags itself out of the dark abyss of pish, and crawls insanely up
the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and
doodle. It is balder and dash."

- With apologies to H. L. Mencken

David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 8:20 AM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

On Aug 14, 10:56 am, (Bill) wrote:

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0400, mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

The radio show doesn't really have regular characters other than C&C
themselves. They do talk about their parents, their sister, and one
of Ray's mechanics (Crusty) from time to time, and on occasion they
mention other friends and relatives. But the vast majority of the
time it's just Tom and Ray.


If you listen to the credits at the end of the radio show, you'll hear
a long list of other characters that are associated with the show -

Corporate Spokesperson: Hugh Lyon Sack
Communications Director: George Stayontopothis
Staff Meteorologist: Gail Storm


From the Click & Clack t-shirt somebody gave me:

Our studio repair technician is Sloan Cranky
Our ethics director is Maura Lee Flexible
Our director of grad school transportation is Iona Heap
Our accounts payable administrator is Imelda Czechs
Our assistant customer care representative is Kurt Reply
Our Car Talk opera critic is Barbara Seville
Our chairman of the federal lubrication board is Alan Greasepan
Our staff bicycle tester is Maya Certz
Our practical joke evaluator is Odessa Goodwyn
Our child transportation specialist is Minnie Van Driver
Our credit counselor is Max Stout
Our director of delicate electronics repair is Anita Hammer
Our employee terminator is Laura Deboom
Our liaison to the space program is Roger Houston
Our shop foreman is Luke Bizz
Our proofreader is Erin Spelling
Our new truck receiver is Zbigniew Rigg
Our puzzler tester is Otis S. Hard
Our staff cooks are Al Dente and Sal Monella
Our staff geneticist is Dr. Jean Poole
And of course, our chief counsel, from the firm of Dewey,
Cheatham and Howe, is Hugh Louis Dewey



For those who haven't had the p;easure of strolling through Harvard
Square in Cambridge, MA, the name of that law firm has been emblazoned
on a third floor office window for many years:

http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/C...am.2C_and_Howe

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Blattus Slafaly wrote:
mm wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?


They should call it Clink and Clank, as the wrench drops.
Or How to Laugh at nothing.



I watched the first epiosode of the TV show and can't say I was
impressed enough to watch again.

Same exact impression here.



However, I am on their email list for the weekly Car Talk "Puzzler"
quiz, and one of my sons and I enjoy seeing which of us can come up with
the correct answers to those questions first.

Click and Clack were the 1999 commencement speakers at my alma mater,
quite an honor to bestow upon them:

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1999/c...ackspeech.html

Jeff

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:51:42 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote:



From the Click & Clack t-shirt somebody gave me:

Our studio repair technician is Sloan Cranky
Our ethics director is Maura Lee Flexible
Our director of grad school transportation is Iona Heap
Our accounts payable administrator is Imelda Czechs
Our assistant customer care representative is Kurt Reply
Our Car Talk opera critic is Barbara Seville
Our chairman of the federal lubrication board is Alan Greasepan
Our staff bicycle tester is Maya Certz
Our practical joke evaluator is Odessa Goodwyn
....

It's interesting how different this is from hearing it on the radio.

On the radio easier to figure out the joke meaning, and takes time to
figure out the spelling or even how the words are actually names.

In writing, every easy to figure out the names involved, like Maya
Certz or Odessa Goodwin, but without hearing them, harder to figure
out the joke.

On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:51:42 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote:



From the Click & Clack t-shirt somebody gave me:

Our studio repair technician is Sloan Cranky
Our ethics director is Maura Lee Flexible
Our director of grad school transportation is Iona Heap
Our accounts payable administrator is Imelda Czechs
Our assistant customer care representative is Kurt Reply
Our Car Talk opera critic is Barbara Seville
Our chairman of the federal lubrication board is Alan Greasepan
Our staff bicycle tester is Maya Certz
Our practical joke evaluator is Odessa Goodwyn
....

It's interesting how different this is from hearing it on the radio.

On the radio easier to figure out the joke meaning, and takes time to
figure out the spelling or even how the words are actually names.

In writing, every easy to figure out the names involved, like Maya
Certz or Odessa Goodwin, but without hearing them, harder to figure
out the joke.

I hate to admit it, but I'm not sure I even get one of them at all: the
last one, "And of course, our chief counsel, from the firm of Dewey,
Cheatham and Howe, is Hugh Louis Dewey". I *guess* that translates to
"You lose; do we?", but I'm not positive.

(By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they had as
"Cheetham". No self-respecting Englishmun would ever spell that name
that way.)


--
"In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
Authority".

On Aug 14, 11:02*pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:





On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:51:42 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote:

From the Click & Clack t-shirt somebody gave me:

* Our studio repair technician is Sloan Cranky
* Our ethics director is Maura Lee Flexible
* Our director of grad school transportation is Iona Heap
* Our accounts payable administrator is Imelda Czechs
* Our assistant customer care representative is Kurt Reply
* Our Car Talk opera critic is Barbara Seville
* Our chairman of the federal lubrication board is Alan Greasepan
* Our staff bicycle tester is Maya Certz
* Our practical joke evaluator is Odessa Goodwyn
* *....

It's interesting how different this is from hearing it on the radio.

On the radio easier to figure out the joke meaning, and takes time to
figure out the spelling or even how the words are actually names.

In writing, every easy to figure out the names involved, like Maya
Certz or Odessa Goodwin, but without hearing them, harder to figure
out the joke.

I hate to admit it, but I'm not sure I even get one of them at all: the
last one, "And of course, our chief counsel, from the firm of Dewey,
Cheatham and Howe, is Hugh Louis Dewey". I *guess* that translates to
"You lose; do we?", but I'm not positive.

(By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they had as
"Cheetham". No self-respecting Englishmun would ever spell that name
that way.)

--
* * * "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
* will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
* population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
* wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
* that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
Authority".- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they
had as "Cheetham".

No you didn't correct it, you changed it to an incorrect spelling.
Follow this link, also offered by Mr. Wisnia earlier today.

http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/C...am.2C_and_Howe

Read what it says in the 3rd floor window.

Hugh Louis Dewey

Hugh Louis Dewey is known to his friends under the bar as Hughie Louie
Dewey, of Donald Duck fame.

On 8/14/2008 9:24 PM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

On Aug 14, 11:02 pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

(By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they had as
"Cheetham". No self-respecting Englishmun would ever spell that name
that way.)

No you didn't correct it, you changed it to an incorrect spelling.
Follow this link, also offered by Mr. Wisnia earlier today.

http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/C...am.2C_and_Howe

But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

Pretty sure Johnny Carson, whose use of the joke predates all these
others by a long shot, spelled it "Cheatham". (They were the Tonight
Show's lawyers, dontcha know.)

Read what it says in the 3rd floor window.

Hugh Louis Dewey

Hugh Louis Dewey is known to his friends under the bar as Hughie Louie
Dewey, of Donald Duck fame.

Ah, so.


--
"In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
Authority".

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:02:33 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote:

On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

In writing, every easy to figure out the names involved, like Maya
Certz or Odessa Goodwin, but without hearing them, harder to figure
out the joke.

I hate to admit it, but I'm not sure I even get one of them at all: the
last one, "And of course, our chief counsel, from the firm of Dewey,
Cheatham and Howe, is Hugh Louis Dewey". I *guess* that translates to
"You lose; do we?", but I'm not positive.

NO, I think it's just the formal name for which Hughie Louie Dewey is
the nickname

On 8/14/2008 10:20 PM mm spake thus:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:02:33 -0700, David Nebenzahl
wrote:

On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

In writing, every easy to figure out the names involved, like Maya
Certz or Odessa Goodwin, but without hearing them, harder to figure
out the joke.

I hate to admit it, but I'm not sure I even get one of them at all: the
last one, "And of course, our chief counsel, from the firm of Dewey,
Cheatham and Howe, is Hugh Louis Dewey". I *guess* that translates to
"You lose; do we?", but I'm not positive.

NO, I think it's just the formal name for which Hughie Louie Dewey is
the nickname

Which tends to prove the point you were making.


--
"In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
Authority".

David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 9:24 PM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

On Aug 14, 11:02 pm, David Nebenzahl
wrote:
On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

(By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they
had as "Cheetham". No self-respecting Englishmun would ever spell
that name that way.)

No you didn't correct it, you changed it to an incorrect spelling.
Follow this link, also offered by Mr. Wisnia earlier today.

http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/C...am.2C_and_Howe

But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

You remind me of the teacher in one of Jack Sharkey's "Adams Family"
novels who insisted on calling Wednesday "Winifred" because
"Wednesday" wasn't an appropriate name.

"Cheetham" in this context is part of the name of a company, and the
owners of the company may spell its name any damned way they please,
the name doesn't even have to have dictionary words in
it--"ITYRUJTFLKD, Inc." is a perfectly valid company name.

Pretty sure Johnny Carson, whose use of the joke predates all these
others by a long shot, spelled it "Cheatham". (They were the Tonight
Show's lawyers, dontcha know.)

And the Three Stooges did it long before him.

Read what it says in the 3rd floor window.

Hugh Louis Dewey

Hugh Louis Dewey is known to his friends under the bar as Hughie
Louie Dewey, of Donald Duck fame.

Ah, so.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

David Nebenzahl wrote:
....
But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.
....

Do a google on "Cheetham" and you may find your eyes opened...

--

On Aug 15, 12:37*am, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 9:24 PM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

On Aug 14, 11:02 pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

(By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they had as
"Cheetham". No self-respecting Englishmun would ever spell that name
that way.)

No you didn't correct it, you changed it to an incorrect spelling.
Follow this link, also offered by Mr. Wisnia earlier today.

http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/C...eetham.2C_and_...

But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

Pretty sure Johnny Carson, whose use of the joke predates all these
others by a long shot, spelled it "Cheatham". (They were the Tonight
Show's lawyers, dontcha know.)

Read what it says in the 3rd floor window.

Hugh Louis Dewey

Hugh Louis Dewey is known to his friends under the bar as Hughie Louie
Dewey, of Donald Duck fame.

Ah, so.

--
* * * "In 1964 Barry Goldwater declared: 'Elect me president, and I
* will bomb the cities of Vietnam, defoliate the jungles, herd the
* population into concentration camps and turn the country into a
* wasteland.' But Lyndon Johnson said: 'No! No! No! Don't you dare do
* that. Let ME do it.'"

- Characterization (paraphrased) of the 1964 Goldwater/Johnson
presidential race by Professor Irwin Corey, "The World's Foremost
Authority".

But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

Now, there's always the chance that you are just trying to stir the
pot here (read: "troll") but I'll respond anyway.

At the bottom of just about every page at the Car Talk web site, you
will see the words:

"CAR TALK, DEWEY, CHEETHAM & HOWE, SHAMELESS COMMERCE, and WARPED
DISCS are registered trademarks, and CLICK AND CLACK is a trademark,
of Tom and Ray Magliozzi and/or Tappet Brothers Associates d/b/a
Dewey, Cheetham & Howe."

Just in case you don't know, d/b/a stands for Doing Business As, thus
making Dewey, Cheetham & Howe not only a trademark, but the name of a
business. In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.

The above info is fact, the following is opinion:

The fictional law firm of Dewey, Cheatham & Howe has been "around" for
a long time - The Three Stooges, Johnny Carson, and hundreds of exams
and hypothetical legal situations in classes around the world. My
guess is that Tom and Ray would have had trouble trademarking a pharse
that has had so much exposure as to almost be a part of our language.
However, by choosing to spell the second word with "ee" instead of
"ea" they were able to obtain the trademark.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
....
But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

....
... In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.
....

And, of course, in the area of peculiarly spelled or pronounced names, I
recall the English prof I once had who would say something like Tom
could decide to spell his name "j-a-c-k" and say "no, it's pronounced
like 'T-o-m'".

His extreme example was to illustrate that names are subject only to the
rules made up by the possessor of the name. Most go (more or less) by
the standards of the language but there's nothing that says they have to...

--

On Aug 15, 10:26*am, dpb wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:

... But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

...
... In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.

...

And, of course, in the area of peculiarly spelled or pronounced names, I
recall the English prof I once had who would say something like Tom
could decide to spell his name "j-a-c-k" and say "no, it's pronounced
like 'T-o-m'".

His extreme example was to illustrate that names are subject only to the
rules made up by the possessor of the name. *Most go (more or less) by
the standards of the language but there's nothing that says they have to....

--

Most go (more or less) by the standards of the language but
there's nothing that says they have to...

That's not correct. Actually, *I* say they have to...they just don't
listen. g

In article , dpb wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
...
But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

...
... In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.
...

And, of course, in the area of peculiarly spelled or pronounced names, I
recall the English prof I once had who would say something like Tom
could decide to spell his name "j-a-c-k" and say "no, it's pronounced
like 'T-o-m'".

Brett "never mind the order of the letters it's pronounced 'Farve'"
Favre comes to mind.


His extreme example was to illustrate that names are subject only to the
rules made up by the possessor of the name. Most go (more or less) by
the standards of the language but there's nothing that says they have to...

--

On Aug 15, 12:36*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , dpb wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
...
But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

...
... In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.
...

And, of course, in the area of peculiarly spelled or pronounced names, I
recall the English prof I once had who would say something like Tom
could decide to spell his name "j-a-c-k" and say "no, it's pronounced
like 'T-o-m'".

Brett "never mind the order of the letters it's pronounced 'Farve'"
Favre comes to mind.





His extreme example was to illustrate that names are subject only to the
rules made up by the possessor of the name. *Most go (more or less) by
the standards of the language but there's nothing that says they have to...

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Brett "never mind the order of the letters it's pronounced
'Farve'" Favre comes to mind.

Not according to Ben Stiller.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:36:24 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article , dpb wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
...
But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

...
... In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.
...

And, of course, in the area of peculiarly spelled or pronounced names, I
recall the English prof I once had who would say something like Tom
could decide to spell his name "j-a-c-k" and say "no, it's pronounced
like 'T-o-m'".

Brett "never mind the order of the letters it's pronounced 'Farve'"
Favre comes to mind.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one having trouble with that
one.


And of course there is ghoti, which is pronounced....


His extreme example was to illustrate that names are subject only to the
rules made up by the possessor of the name. Most go (more or less) by
the standards of the language but there's nothing that says they have to...

--

....the same way that fish is pronounced.





Take the gh from enough,
the o from women,
and the ti from motion.

So that's fish.

On Aug 15, 1:56*pm, mm wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:36:24 -0700, Smitty Two





wrote:
In article , dpb wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
...
But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

...
... In the US, as in many other places around the world, you can
spell the name of your business (just about) any way you like. It's
perfectly legal and acceptable for Tom and Ray, along with their
*real* lawyers, to have decided to spell the second word in their
business name C-H-E-E-T-H-A-M. In no way is it "wrong" or
"misspelled", it's simply a fabricated word.
...

And, of course, in the area of peculiarly spelled or pronounced names, I
recall the English prof I once had who would say something like Tom
could decide to spell his name "j-a-c-k" and say "no, it's pronounced
like 'T-o-m'".

Brett "never mind the order of the letters it's pronounced 'Farve'"
Favre comes to mind.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one having trouble with that
one.

And of course there is ghoti, which is pronounced....



His extreme example was to illustrate that names are subject only to the
rules made up by the possessor of the name. *Most go (more or less) by
the standards of the language but there's nothing that says they have to...

--

...the same way that fish is pronounced.

Take the gh from enough,
* * *the o from women,
*and the ti from motion.

So that's fish.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK, so as long as we going a tad OT from something that was already
OT, are you all aware that the following is a gramatically correct
sentence?

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 8/14/2008 9:24 PM DerbyDad03 spake thus:

On Aug 14, 11:02 pm, David Nebenzahl
wrote:
On 8/14/2008 5:14 PM mm spake thus:

(By the way, I corrected the spelling of the law firm, which they
had as "Cheetham". No self-respecting Englishmun would ever spell
that name that way.)

No you didn't correct it, you changed it to an incorrect spelling.
Follow this link, also offered by Mr. Wisnia earlier today.

http://en.wikivisual.com/index.php/C...am.2C_and_Howe

But it's still wrong, no matter how many people misspell it.

Pretty sure Johnny Carson, whose use of the joke predates all these
others by a long shot, spelled it "Cheatham". (They were the Tonight
Show's lawyers, dontcha know.)

Just to add to this, noticed a few minutes ago that there's a "Jay
Cheetham" spelled with "EE", not "EA" in the sound department at Acme
Shark (makes "Stargate Atlantis" for Sci-Fi Channel), and that led to
a bunch of other "Cheethams" in the movie industry
http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=cheetham&x=19&y=8, more in fact
than there are "Cheathams" with the "EA"
http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=cheatham&x=10&y=9, so it would seem
that either spelling is about equally likely for a randomly selected
lawyer.

Further, your Britishness, you might want to take a look at a map of
Manchester, England, which has a district named "Cheetham".

The name apparently goes back to Old English.

Read what it says in the 3rd floor window.

Hugh Louis Dewey

Hugh Louis Dewey is known to his friends under the bar as Hughie
Louie Dewey, of Donald Duck fame.

Ah, so.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

In article , mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

No idea. However, Click and Clack are on now, and they adressed the show
as letter from someone who had watched it. The writer mentioned that the
Marx brothers once made a terrible movie "The Big Store" so they would
have money to rescue Chico from gambling debts. The writer went on to ask
which of the two Click and Clack brothers had the gambling debt. C&C
didn't adress the quality of their show, though.

It sounds like a case of hoping their celebrity would carry the show, and
there was no need (as another poster mentions) of having good writers and
a director who can throw the bad stuff away.

--
charles

In article

,
(Charles Bishop) wrote:

In article , mm
wrote:

The new tv show Click and Clack is pretty good, especially considering
it's animated.

I know who Click and Clack are, but am I supposed to know who the
other characters are, the girl, the black guy, the well-dressed guy,
the old lady, the Slavic mechanic? Are they on the radio show at all,
or what?

No idea. However, Click and Clack are on now, and they adressed the show
as letter from someone who had watched it. The writer mentioned that the
Marx brothers once made a terrible movie "The Big Store" so they would
have money to rescue Chico from gambling debts. The writer went on to ask
which of the two Click and Clack brothers had the gambling debt. C&C
didn't adress the quality of their show, though.

It sounds like a case of hoping their celebrity would carry the show, and
there was no need (as another poster mentions) of having good writers and
a director who can throw the bad stuff away.

The radio show sucks too, IMO. It's long ago gone from a useful and
informative how-to aimed at backyard mechanics, to a pathetic forum
aimed at the unwashed masses, complete with lame jokes and calls that
have nothing to do with repairing cars.

Cases in point: A male caller asks which new $75,000 car would be a
better buy, and a female caller asks whether she should buy the house
with the steep driveway since her car bottoms out at the crest of it.

Smitty Two wrote:
....
The radio show sucks too, IMO. It's long ago gone from a useful and
informative how-to aimed at backyard mechanics, to a pathetic forum
aimed at the unwashed masses, complete with lame jokes and calls that
have nothing to do with repairing cars.
....

I disagree on that -- while the number of "shadetree mechanics" has
certainly diminished (imo mostly owing to the complexity of the modern
automobile and the disappearance of the need for much of the routine
sort of things done by the owner formerly), it is still super for the
diagnosis of the peculiar or for dispensing useful advice on whether the
real mechanic is blowing smoke.

Case in point this AM -- gal calls in about oil leak and indications in
radiator overflow tank. Gets reasonable advice on which of three
different diagnoses she had received from three separate shops.

--

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:56:30 -0500, dpb wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:
...
The radio show sucks too, IMO. It's long ago gone from a useful and
informative how-to aimed at backyard mechanics, to a pathetic forum
aimed at the unwashed masses, complete with lame jokes and calls that
have nothing to do with repairing cars.
...

I disagree on that -- while the number of "shadetree mechanics" has
certainly diminished (imo mostly owing to the complexity of the modern
automobile and the disappearance of the need for much of the routine
sort of things done by the owner formerly), it is still super for the
diagnosis of the peculiar or for dispensing useful advice on whether the
real mechanic is blowing smoke.

When they have a follow-up, where they call someone who they gave
advice to, they make all these statements that they haven't talked to
him in advance, etc. Is there some legal reason for that? They
don't charge for their answers, so this can't be protecting anyone
from fraud, but maybe there is now some general rule that even those
who don't charge money have to obey??


Case in point this AM -- gal calls in about oil leak and indications in
radiator overflow tank. Gets reasonable advice on which of three
different diagnoses she had received from three separate shops.

I like the show. In the last 15 years, it hasn't given as many
technical answers as ...I forget his name....he has a show on PBS
about cars, but not about how to repair them. He used to have the
best show, in DC, about how to repair them. One syllable last name,
and maybe one syllable first name too. His show was great for
repairs, but some auto repair shows make mistakes.

As to the tv show, I like it. It's not a classic like Gone With the
Wind, but it's wholesome and fun, and kids can watch it too without
being turned into perverts. There are no open bodies with bloodly
guts showing, and there are no murders or sex scenes, which seem to be
required for most tv these days, and I like C&C's tv show.

mm wrote:
....
When they have a follow-up, where they call someone who they gave
advice to, they make all these statements that they haven't talked to
him in advance, etc. Is there some legal reason for that? They
don't charge for their answers, so this can't be protecting anyone
from fraud, but maybe there is now some general rule that even those
who don't charge money have to obey??

It's just part of the running gag of the show's...

....
I like the show. In the last 15 years, it hasn't given as many
technical answers as ...I forget his name....he has a show on PBS
about cars, but not about how to repair them. He used to have the
best show, in DC, about how to repair them. One syllable last name,
and maybe one syllable first name too. His show was great for
repairs, but some auto repair shows make mistakes.
....

No clue--PBS here hasn't enough money for but one or two of the
"high-priced spread" and a car show ain't it. We're usually very lucky
to get NOVA in the same it is first aired and Business Evening Daily.

It would be pretty doggone tough to _never_ make a mistake even in the
garage what more on a call-in show. C&C are pretty good at what they do
besides the running jokes, etc., ...

--

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:00:06 -0500, dpb wrote:

mm wrote:
...
When they have a follow-up, where they call someone who they gave
advice to, they make all these statements that they haven't talked to
him in advance, etc. Is there some legal reason for that? They
don't charge for their answers, so this can't be protecting anyone
from fraud, but maybe there is now some general rule that even those
who don't charge money have to obey??

It's just part of the running gag of the show's...

Really? It's not funny, afaic. Never has been.

...
I like the show. In the last 15 years, it hasn't given as many
technical answers as ...I forget his name....he has a show on PBS
about cars, but not about how to repair them. He used to have the
best show, in DC, about how to repair them. One syllable last name,
and maybe one syllable first name too. His show was great for

Yeah, each name is one syllable.

repairs, but some auto repair shows make mistakes.
...

No clue--PBS here hasn't enough money for but one or two of the

Pat Voss!! I thought some more and it jumped into my head. I'm not
interested in different models of cars and how they perform, but
that's what his show on PBS is about. Before that, he had a radio
show on WRC in DC for an hour on Saturday that was the best car repair
show I've ever heard. Click and Clack is my highest rated car
variety show.

"high-priced spread" and a car show ain't it. We're usually very lucky
to get NOVA in the same it is first aired and Business Evening Daily.

It would be pretty doggone tough to _never_ make a mistake even in the
garage what more on a call-in show. C&C are pretty good at what they do
besides the running jokes, etc., ...

mm wrote:
....
Really? It's not funny, afaic. Never has been.
....
Not intended to be knee-slapping funny, just part of the schtick,
trademark, etc. What would the segement be w/o it now? Would seem to
be lacking. Like Carson w/o "It's so cold/hot that..." or Benny w/o the
violin.

--

SteveB wrote:
....
I turned it on last night for about five minutes. To me, about as funny as
Three's Company, or Married with Children, which I thought were terrible.

I really like their radio show. To bad it doesn't convert to TV.
....
Can't imagine what it be on TV (and probably will have to continue to
try if want as it'll undoubtedly be bigger ticket item than local would
have money for--the radio station has trouble funding the radio side
regularly, even)...I can imagine it being pretty lame and difficult to
make up something visual. Be more entertaining simply to netcast the
talk show, probably.

We were speaking of the the callback segment on the radio show on the
why for the apparent disclaimer of collusion, etc., however, in this
little subthread.

mm seems to be taking it more at face value than is intended where my
take is it's simply farce and a play off the old Carson gag of the
"hermetically sealed, on the porch under Funk & Wagnells...", etc.,
questions for Karnac.

--

"dpb" wrote in message ...
mm wrote:
...
Really? It's not funny, afaic. Never has been.
...
Not intended to be knee-slapping funny, just part of the schtick,
trademark, etc. What would the segement be w/o it now? Would seem to be
lacking. Like Carson w/o "It's so cold/hot that..." or Benny w/o the
violin.

--

I turned it on last night for about five minutes. To me, about as funny as
Three's Company, or Married with Children, which I thought were terrible.

I really like their radio show. To bad it doesn't convert to TV.

Steve

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:56:58 -0500, dpb wrote:


We were speaking of the the callback segment on the radio show on the
why for the apparent disclaimer of collusion, etc., however, in this
little subthread.

mm seems to be taking it more at face value than is intended where my
take is it's simply farce and a play off the old Carson gag of the
"hermetically sealed, on the porch under Funk & Wagnells...", etc.,
questions for Karnac.

I guess I am (unless someone says it really is required by law! I
still haven't given up hope. )

I guess I got bored by Karnac too, and I certainly did about the
repetitive parts of "Cheeseburga, cheeseburga" on Saturday Night Live.

I never got bored of Jack Benny's violin, however. There's an hour
show about Jack Benny showing on PBS last month, and probalby next
month too. I enjoyed it a lot.

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:23:30 -0700, (Charles
Bishop) wrote:


It sounds like a case of hoping their celebrity would carry the show, and
there was no need (as another poster mentions) of having good writers and
a director who can throw the bad stuff away.

This is the second time someone has tried to translate Car Talk to
television. Anyone else remember "The George Wendt Show" from 1995?
He played one of two brothers who were mechanics and hosts of a radio
show. You wouldn't have known that from watching it, though. It was
absolutely terrible, and only lasted seven episodes.