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HeyBub[_3_] July 22nd 08 04:06 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
"Technically, rain that falls on your roof isn't yours for the taking. It's
a resource of the state, which regulates the use of public waters through an
allocation process that can take years to navigate."

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/nort...ry/473205.html

Strangely, I don't think you need a permit to MAKE rain (probably something
to do with Native American religious practices...).



runsrealfast July 22nd 08 10:07 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
On Jul 22, 9:06*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
"Technically, rain that falls on your roof isn't yours for the taking. It's
a resource of the state, which regulates the use of public waters through an
allocation process that can take years to navigate."

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/nort...ry/473205.html

Strangely, I don't think you need a permit to MAKE rain (probably something
to do with Native American religious practices...).


Luckly for those of us in dry climates we don't even gather enough
water for anyone to care.

Oren[_2_] July 22nd 08 10:37 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:33:07 -0400, Claude Hopper
wrote:

In the last town I lived in the sanitary district (sewer central)
charged us for the run off of rain from our property into the storm
drains.


What town WAS this? How was run off metered?


Dick Adams[_2_] July 22nd 08 11:08 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
HeyBub wrote:

"Technically, rain that falls on your roof isn't yours for
the taking. It's a resource of the state, which regulates
the use of public waters through an allocation process that
can take years to navigate."

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/nort...ry/473205.html


Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.

Strangely, I don't think you need a permit to MAKE rain
(probably something to do with Native American religious
practices...).


Praying for rain is a practice in almost all religions.
Join my religion (Memership is free) and you too can claim
the rain is the result of your efforts. It's called "The
Church of the Old School".

Dick

Kurt Ullman July 22nd 08 11:17 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
In article ,
(Dick Adams) wrote:

Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.


My favorite was when they got slapped down for trying to tax retirees
who had left California "for money they had earned in California".
Supremes guffawed.

Don Klipstein July 22nd 08 11:29 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
In article , Dick Adams wrote:

Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space


Territorial airspace, even on national scales, stops at 100 km
(approx. 62 miles) above sea level. Everything past that is like the
"high seas" and not subject to jurisdiction of any nation (including
political subdivisions thereof such as California).

- Don Klipstein )

dpb July 22nd 08 11:50 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
HeyBub wrote:
....
Strangely, I don't think you need a permit to MAKE rain (probably something
to do with Native American religious practices...).


One of Baxter Black's sayings is something along the lines of "the
effectiveness of a rain dance is dependent mostly on the timing"... :)

--

Oren[_2_] July 22nd 08 11:57 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:17:15 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
(Dick Adams) wrote:

Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.


My favorite was when they got slapped down for trying to tax retirees
who had left California "for money they had earned in California".
Supremes guffawed.


CA was one of five states, claiming tax on federal pensions. NY, CT,
and a couple of other states that escape me at the moment.

You lived and worked here, so we want a portion.... Courts ruled,
otherwise..

h[_11_] July 23rd 08 12:08 AM

Who owns the rain?
 

"Dick Adams" wrote in message
...
HeyBub wrote:

"Technically, rain that falls on your roof isn't yours for
the taking. It's a resource of the state, which regulates
the use of public waters through an allocation process that
can take years to navigate."

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/nort...ry/473205.html


Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.


There's a company cafeteria in SoCal that expects you to pay for certain
items you bring from home. For example, if you get something from the salad
bar but elect to bring your own dressing, you're supposed to pour your own
dressing on the salad PRIOR to weighing it, so you can be charged for
something you already own. They don't let you buy a salad with no dressing.
Only in California.



h[_11_] July 23rd 08 12:09 AM

Who owns the rain?
 

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Dick Adams) wrote:

Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.


My favorite was when they got slapped down for trying to tax retirees
who had left California "for money they had earned in California".
Supremes guffawed.


But...hadn't they already been taxed on that money while they actually lived
there? Insane!



Don Klipstein July 23rd 08 12:32 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
In article , h wrote:

There's a company cafeteria in SoCal that expects you to pay for certain
items you bring from home. For example, if you get something from the salad
bar but elect to bring your own dressing, you're supposed to pour your own
dressing on the salad PRIOR to weighing it, so you can be charged for
something you already own. They don't let you buy a salad with no dressing.
Only in California.


You said that a company cafeteria does this? Is that not an
employer-employee relationship matter? I would think that companies
acting outrageously like that would most likely be running afoul of the
law in a state that regulates private matters more such as California.
Is the company trying to risk motivating California to pass yet another
law?

- Don Klipstein )

Dick Adams[_2_] July 23rd 08 03:03 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
SteveB wrote:

AlGore owns the rain.


And he wants to tax you for using it.

SteveB July 23rd 08 03:08 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
AlGore owns the rain.



Dick Adams[_2_] July 23rd 08 03:10 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
h wrote:
"Kurt Ullman" wrote:
(Dick Adams) wrote:


Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.


My favorite was when they got slapped down for trying to
tax retirees who had left California "for money they had
earned in California". Supremes guffawed.


But...hadn't they already been taxed on that money while
they actually lived there? Insane!


As Johnny Carson once said: "California is like living in
a box of Granola. Everywhere you turn, there's a fruit,
a flake, or a nut."

Dick

Dick Adams[_2_] July 23rd 08 03:16 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
dpb wrote:
HeyBub wrote:


...
Strangely, I don't think you need a permit to MAKE rain
(probably something to do with Native American religious
practices...).


One of Baxter Black's sayings is something along the lines
of "the effectiveness of a rain dance is dependent mostly
on the timing"... :)


Whether buying, selling, or seducing, timing is everything.

Dick


Reed July 23rd 08 03:19 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
h wrote:
"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
(Dick Adams) wrote:

Nothing that happens on the Left Coast ever surprises me.
This is similar to California trying to tax commercial
sattelites that flew over California air space and the
electric company that wanted to charge homeowners for
installing solar panels.

My favorite was when they got slapped down for trying to tax retirees
who had left California "for money they had earned in California".
Supremes guffawed.


But...hadn't they already been taxed on that money while they actually lived
there? Insane!




Not really...the issue was over IRA or 401K money that was not taxed
at time earned, but is taxed at withdrawal (like in a no-state-tax
state like Nevada !!) .... so to CA and the rest, tough cookies

Kurt Ullman July 23rd 08 04:28 AM

Who owns the rain?
 
In article ,
Reed wrote:


Not really...the issue was over IRA or 401K money that was not taxed
at time earned, but is taxed at withdrawal (like in a no-state-tax
state like Nevada !!) .... so to CA and the rest, tough cookies


CA, anyway, also tried to suggest that SS and defined-benefit pensions
were fair game.

SteveB July 23rd 08 07:43 AM

Who owns the rain?
 

"Dick Adams" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

AlGore owns the rain.


And he wants to tax you for using it.


I may have spoken prematurely. What is the carbon footprint for rain?
Surely not as much as an AlGore jet going here and there and back again.
All in the interest of conservation and the reduction of carbon footprints,
dontcha know?

Steve



Kurt Ullman July 23rd 08 01:22 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
In article ,
"SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote:

"Dick Adams" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

AlGore owns the rain.


And he wants to tax you for using it.


I may have spoken prematurely. What is the carbon footprint for rain?
Surely not as much as an AlGore jet going here and there and back again.
All in the interest of conservation and the reduction of carbon footprints,
dontcha know?

Steve


Nonsense and falderal. He pays someone to plant a tree to make it all
better. Or buys a carbon offset.

Kurt Ullman July 23rd 08 01:23 PM

Who owns the rain?
 
In article ,
Stephen King wrote:

Who'll stop the rain?


John Fogerty. I mean, really. That was too easy.


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