Dishwasher Maytag
 

Hello all,

I just wanted to give my opinion on a dishwasher in hopes it would help
someone out.

ON 6-30-06 we bought a Maytag dishwasher at Sears. Model number 19432.
The dishwasher was a closeout model that we got a good price on. We paid
$449.99. It was normally just over $600. We also got the 5 year extended
warranty.

Yesterday the service man came, for about the 10th time since we bought
it. He told us that Maytag dishwashers need to be taken apart and cleaned
out every 6 months or so of normal use. More if you are a heavy user
washing a lot of dishes. His mother has one and he has to disassemble and
clean it about every 6 months.

He also looked it up and we have just over $1,200 in repair calls on this
dishwasher to date. Our extended service plan expires in 2011 and I can't
imagine they will call to renew it.

Besides just plain not getting the dishes clean, after a few months
usage, they have also replaced the pump and most on the internal parts.
Screen, small spinning blade. When the electronic control panel went dead
they also replaced that.

Also, all of the repairmen tell me that no matter what the brochures,
sales people or commercials say, there is no garbage disposer in any
dishwasher. In our Maytag it just amounts to a small piece of metal
(maybe 3 inches) that spins around inside on top of a small flat piece of
metal with holes drilled in it. Whatever the blade can shove through the
holes is considered chopped. If the hot water can't turn this debri into
mush, the blade won't 'chop' it. It may even damage the blade. The
repairmen seem to agree that they wish the sales people would quit
telling people anything different.

Anyway I hope this information helps someone out. I am sure that other
people have had different results. In our case after the extended runs
out we will probably replace the unit and try and get $50 or $100 for it.

Steve

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"Steve" wrote in message
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Hello all,

I just wanted to give my opinion on a dishwasher in hopes it would help
someone out.

ON 6-30-06 we bought a Maytag dishwasher at Sears. Model number 19432.
The dishwasher was a closeout model that we got a good price on. We paid
$449.99. It was normally just over $600. We also got the 5 year extended
warranty.

Yesterday the service man came, for about the 10th time since we bought
it. He told us that Maytag dishwashers need to be taken apart and cleaned
out every 6 months or so of normal use. More if you are a heavy user
washing a lot of dishes. His mother has one and he has to disassemble and
clean it about every 6 months.

He also looked it up and we have just over $1,200 in repair calls on this
dishwasher to date. Our extended service plan expires in 2011 and I can't
imagine they will call to renew it.

Besides just plain not getting the dishes clean, after a few months
usage, they have also replaced the pump and most on the internal parts.
Screen, small spinning blade. When the electronic control panel went dead
they also replaced that.

Also, all of the repairmen tell me that no matter what the brochures,
sales people or commercials say, there is no garbage disposer in any
dishwasher. In our Maytag it just amounts to a small piece of metal
(maybe 3 inches) that spins around inside on top of a small flat piece of
metal with holes drilled in it. Whatever the blade can shove through the
holes is considered chopped. If the hot water can't turn this debri into
mush, the blade won't 'chop' it. It may even damage the blade. The
repairmen seem to agree that they wish the sales people would quit
telling people anything different.

Anyway I hope this information helps someone out. I am sure that other
people have had different results. In our case after the extended runs
out we will probably replace the unit and try and get $50 or $100 for it.

Steve

you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to rinse the
dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"ythread" wrote in message
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you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to rinse
the dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

I agree with you, but there have been commercials showing people putting in
all sorts of things (a whole cake, etc.) and then presto, sparkling clean
dishes.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

On Jun 25, 2:51 pm, "h" wrote:
"ythread" wrote in message

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you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to rinse
the dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

I agree with you, but there have been commercials showing people putting in
all sorts of things (a whole cake, etc.) and then presto, sparkling clean
dishes.


I have a Maytag dishwasher that is about six years old and still
working fine. We've never had any problems with it....I do rinse off
the dishes before loading them in the dishwasher even though the book
that came with it says I don't have to .... I think it may just be the
particular model you bought or you just got a lemon.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"h" wrote in :


"ythread" wrote in message
...


you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to
rinse the dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

I agree with you, but there have been commercials showing people
putting in all sorts of things (a whole cake, etc.) and then presto,
sparkling clean dishes.



Key word is "commercials". They can say almost anythig they want. It's up
to you to disprove, in a court of law, at your expense, on your time.

Look at all the 19.95 + s&h **** on TV. They know it's BS. They CYA by
money back guarantee. If you go through the trouble to get money back,
they will refund it. Legal obligation fulfilled. They bank on volume. The
number of refund claims is zip compared to volume sold. They bank on
people just saying it's junk, throw it away and forget it. Cost of doing
business. Proof: Billy Mays is a multi millionare.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

Our 3 level version lasted a few years. It was junk but did a good job when
it worked. Never needed cleaning of jets. But control panel and other
stuff broke. I dumped it. Get a BOsch.


"Steve" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

I just wanted to give my opinion on a dishwasher in hopes it would help
someone out.

ON 6-30-06 we bought a Maytag dishwasher at Sears. Model number 19432.
The dishwasher was a closeout model that we got a good price on. We paid
$449.99. It was normally just over $600. We also got the 5 year extended
warranty.

Yesterday the service man came, for about the 10th time since we bought
it. He told us that Maytag dishwashers need to be taken apart and cleaned
out every 6 months or so of normal use. More if you are a heavy user
washing a lot of dishes. His mother has one and he has to disassemble and
clean it about every 6 months.

He also looked it up and we have just over $1,200 in repair calls on this
dishwasher to date. Our extended service plan expires in 2011 and I can't
imagine they will call to renew it.

Besides just plain not getting the dishes clean, after a few months
usage, they have also replaced the pump and most on the internal parts.
Screen, small spinning blade. When the electronic control panel went dead
they also replaced that.

Also, all of the repairmen tell me that no matter what the brochures,
sales people or commercials say, there is no garbage disposer in any
dishwasher. In our Maytag it just amounts to a small piece of metal
(maybe 3 inches) that spins around inside on top of a small flat piece of
metal with holes drilled in it. Whatever the blade can shove through the
holes is considered chopped. If the hot water can't turn this debri into
mush, the blade won't 'chop' it. It may even damage the blade. The
repairmen seem to agree that they wish the sales people would quit
telling people anything different.

Anyway I hope this information helps someone out. I am sure that other
people have had different results. In our case after the extended runs
out we will probably replace the unit and try and get $50 or $100 for it.

Steve

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"Steve" wrote in message

Also, all of the repairmen tell me that no matter what the brochures,
sales people or commercials say, there is no garbage disposer in any
dishwasher. In our Maytag it just amounts to a small piece of metal
(maybe 3 inches) that spins around inside on top of a small flat piece of
metal with holes drilled in it. Whatever the blade can shove through the
holes is considered chopped. If the hot water can't turn this debri into
mush, the blade won't 'chop' it. It may even damage the blade. The
repairmen seem to agree that they wish the sales people would quit
telling people anything different.

If you are using it as a garbage disposal, you are adding to the problems.
Stop doing that. A one second rinse of the big stuff should solve the
problem.

No doubt you have problems, such as the circuit board, but if every Maytag
performed like yours, they'd be out of business in months.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"Art" wrote in message
m...
Our 3 level version lasted a few years. It was junk but did a good job
when it worked. Never needed cleaning of jets. But control panel and
other stuff broke. I dumped it. Get a BOsch.


Our local appliance store says Bosch is a good machine, but they have more
service calls than other brands he sells. Bought a Kitchen Aid. So far, so
good. I wonder about any of them with all the electronics in them today.

Just bought a new gas range. One of the criteria was minimal electronics.
Ours has none but the igniters, a light and convection fan.
www.bertazzoni-italia.com We got the 30" in black.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Art" wrote in message
m...
Our 3 level version lasted a few years. It was junk but did a good job
when it worked. Never needed cleaning of jets. But control panel and
other stuff broke. I dumped it. Get a BOsch.


Our local appliance store says Bosch is a good machine, but they have more
service calls than other brands he sells. Bought a Kitchen Aid. So far,
so good. I wonder about any of them with all the electronics in them
today.

you have expensive taste

We had a kitchen aid in the house when we bought it it worked better than
any d/w i've seen. So when it broke i went to get a new one but the
repairman that looked at our old one said for the money GE was a better
value. I guess kitchen aid isn't made by the same company anymore. He said
they (KA) are still good but not what they used to be. He looked at our old
one like it was a vintage dw. It did work better than the GE. But the GE was
around $300. I could get 3 KAs for that price. So far I've had the GE for
around 6 months with no problem . Quiet and does a reasonably good job. I
really need quiet because my kitchen is open into the living room.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

h wrote:
"ythread" wrote in message
...

you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to rinse
the dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

I agree with you, but there have been commercials showing people putting in
all sorts of things (a whole cake, etc.) and then presto, sparkling clean
dishes.


There is marketing and then there is reality. Likely you (and everyone
else) couldn't read the 2 paragraph tiny type disclaimer that was
flashed on the bottom of the screen for 1 second that described how the
demonstration was simulated etc...

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"h" wrote in message
...

"ythread" wrote in message
...


you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to rinse
the dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

I agree with you, but there have been commercials showing people putting
in all sorts of things (a whole cake, etc.)
whole pot roasts

Dishwasher Maytag
 

on 6/26/2008 9:39 AM Edwin Pawlowski said the following:
"Steve" wrote in message


Also, all of the repairmen tell me that no matter what the brochures,
sales people or commercials say, there is no garbage disposer in any
dishwasher. In our Maytag it just amounts to a small piece of metal
(maybe 3 inches) that spins around inside on top of a small flat piece of
metal with holes drilled in it. Whatever the blade can shove through the
holes is considered chopped. If the hot water can't turn this debri into
mush, the blade won't 'chop' it. It may even damage the blade. The
repairmen seem to agree that they wish the sales people would quit
telling people anything different.


If you are using it as a garbage disposal, you are adding to the problems.
Stop doing that. A one second rinse of the big stuff should solve the
problem.

No doubt you have problems, such as the circuit board, but if every Maytag
performed like yours, they'd be out of business in months.



And if you like Italian food, scrub off that Parmesano cheese that is
stuck to the plate before you put it in the washer, else the plate will
come out of the washer with clean Parmesano cheese stuck to it. :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"ythread" wrote in message
you have expensive taste

It certainly was. About $110 0IIRC.


We had a kitchen aid in the house when we bought it it worked better than
any d/w i've seen. So when it broke i went to get a new one but the
repairman that looked at our old one said for the money GE was a better
value. I guess kitchen aid isn't made by the same company anymore. He said
they (KA) are still good but not what they used to be. He looked at our
old one like it was a vintage dw. It did work better than the GE. But the
GE was around $300. I could get 3 KAs for that price. So far I've had the
GE for around 6 months with no problem . Quiet and does a reasonably good
job. I really need quiet because my kitchen is open into the living room.

Many years ago, KA was built by Hobart and was top notch. They were spun
off and indepndent for a while. Today they are owned by Whirlpool and
maintain at least a little of their own identity on the outside, but I don'
tknow about the inside.

Our first refrigerator was a Frigidaire, a division of General Motors. Now
it is just a brand name by Elecrtrolux but has been whored about for a
number of years. White and Westinghouse became White-Westinghouse, and got
together with Edison Electric, Gibson, Norge, Crosley and a few others.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"ythread" wrote in message
you have expensive taste

It certainly was. About $110 0IIRC.


We had a kitchen aid in the house when we bought it it worked better than
any d/w i've seen. So when it broke i went to get a new one but the
repairman that looked at our old one said for the money GE was a better
value. I guess kitchen aid isn't made by the same company anymore. He
said they (KA) are still good but not what they used to be. He looked at
our old one like it was a vintage dw. It did work better than the GE. But
the GE was around $300. I could get 3 KAs for that price. So far I've had
the GE for around 6 months with no problem . Quiet and does a reasonably
good job. I really need quiet because my kitchen is open into the living
room.

Many years ago, KA was built by Hobart and was top notch.

Yes, I do believe that was the conversation I had with the repair guy.
Unfortunately it wasn't worth repairing and basically irreplaceable. It must
of been 25 or 30 y/o. My house was built in the 80's and was probably
original equipment. Being a restaurant manager, in a previous life, I really
wanted to preserve it. When I took it out there was a bad short in the
control box. May have been why it ultimately failed. It needed a new motor
and he said it was time for the old girl to retire. Everything else was
still working but the motor was making a racket.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

The Bosch my parents have had for 5 years has been flawless and cost $550.
Almost silent.


"ythread" wrote in message
...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Art" wrote in message
m...
Our 3 level version lasted a few years. It was junk but did a good job
when it worked. Never needed cleaning of jets. But control panel and
other stuff broke. I dumped it. Get a BOsch.


Our local appliance store says Bosch is a good machine, but they have
more service calls than other brands he sells. Bought a Kitchen Aid. So
far, so good. I wonder about any of them with all the electronics in
them today.

you have expensive taste

We had a kitchen aid in the house when we bought it it worked better than
any d/w i've seen. So when it broke i went to get a new one but the
repairman that looked at our old one said for the money GE was a better
value. I guess kitchen aid isn't made by the same company anymore. He said
they (KA) are still good but not what they used to be. He looked at our
old one like it was a vintage dw. It did work better than the GE. But the
GE was around $300. I could get 3 KAs for that price. So far I've had the
GE for around 6 months with no problem . Quiet and does a reasonably good
job. I really need quiet because my kitchen is open into the living room.

Dishwasher Maytag
 

"ythread" wrote in
:


"h" wrote in message
...

"ythread" wrote in message
...


you/re not supposed to put any food in the dishwasher. you have to
rinse the dishes first. jezzus i thought everyone knew that.

I agree with you, but there have been commercials showing people
putting in all sorts of things (a whole cake, etc.)
whole pot roasts



Corn on the cob...with the cob.

It would take Billy Mays to pitch that one.