Several web pages recommend using these to extend an outlet or switch
box when wood is installed over a wall that has existing outlet boxes.
The problem is, I can't find them anywhere, even online. Lowe's only
has them in specific depths, none of which are what I need. Does
anyone know where I can get them?

Thanks for your help!

-dan z-


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On May 13, 7:58*pm, slate_leeper wrote:
Several web pages recommend using these to extend an outlet or switch
box when wood is installed over a wall that has existing outlet boxes.
The problem is, I can't find them anywhere, even online. Lowe's only
has them in specific depths, none of which are what I need. Does
anyone know where I can get them?

Thanks for your help!

-dan z-

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Have you tried an electrical supply house, like the ones the
contractors use?

Call around to a few dedicated lighting stores in your area. Many of
them have walk-up part counters in the back, sometimes accessible via
the back door. These places are hidden gems for all things electrical.

Drive around to the back of the lighting store. If you see a bunch of
pickups and panel trucks with ladders on top, you'll know you've hit
pay dirt. g

Does anyone know where I can get them?

http://adjustablemudring.com/

On Wed, 14 May 2008 02:20:21 GMT, "Rudy"
wrote:


Does anyone know where I can get them?

http://adjustablemudring.com/


I have never seen a plaster ring with the 4 corners tapped. (the ones
I have seen are not tapped on any corner)

This doesn't look like anything that will work for existing boxes.

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Several web pages recommend using these to extend an outlet or switch
box when wood is installed over a wall that has existing outlet boxes.
The problem is, I can't find them anywhere, even online. Lowe's only
has them in specific depths, none of which are what I need. Does
anyone know where I can get them?

Thanks for your help!

-dan z-


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After the wood or other material is installed you can't install any kind of
extension that screws to the box. As DD03 points out in the link, adjustable
sleeves are made for this purpose. They come in steel and plastic, and I
believe HD sells the plastic ones

Thanks for the suggestions. Still haven't found what the
home-improvement web pages mention, however. The "mudring" appears
from the pictures to require welding to the original box, and attaches
to the boxes' bottom. The MSC unit is not adjustable, and is the same
as what I found at Lowe's. Home Depot was mentioned but is one of the
web sites I previously searched, with no luck.

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OK, I found two products. What do you all think of these?

http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.i...odstoreid=3983

These look like they can be stacked and/or sanded to produce the exact
depth needed. Disadvantage - they come in 25 packs.


http://www.improvementscatalog.com/product/id/100584.do

Looks quick and easy, but will they be sturdy enough? Alternative: cut
exact-depth spacers from steel tubing?


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On 2008-05-14, slate_leeper wrote:

http://www.improvementscatalog.com/product/id/100584.do

Looks quick and easy, but will they be sturdy enough? Alternative: cut
exact-depth spacers from steel tubing?

This is not a code-compliant solution. You actually need to extend
the box, not just bring the device forward. The NEC regulates the
allowable gap between the front edge of the box and the wall surface
when the wall is made of combustible material, like wood paneling.

Cheers, Wayne

On May 14, 10:37Â*am, slate_leeper wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. Still haven't found what the
home-improvement web pages mention, however. The "mudring" appears
from the pictures to require welding to the original box, and attaches
to the boxes' bottom. The MSC unit is not adjustable, and is the same
as what I found at Lowe's. Home Depot was mentioned but is one of the
web sites I previously searched, with no luck.

-dan z-

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The MSC unit is not adjustable

I don't know why you doubt me.

The MSC unit I suggested shows a manufacturer's (Cooper Crouse-Hinds)
part number of TP709.

Searching the Cooper Crouse-Hinds site (http://www.crouse-hinds.com/)
for TP709, I found this document:

http://www.crouse-hinds.com/catalog/...200to00212.pdf

Page 13, which shows the TP709, includes this text:

"Fits snugly inside all 3" × 2" width boxes. Maximum adjustable depth
7�„8". Furnished with mounting screws."

QED

Dan Z,

Take a look at the following link.

http://www.aifittings.com/m_9.htm

As others here have mentioned, you may need to visit an electrical supply
house or one of the big box stores to see what they actually carry. I do
know that Home Depot carries the plastic ones like in your Innovations link.

I prefer the Arlington BE1s because they also protect the sides of the
receptacle from possibly contacting the existing metallic box. That may be a
concern depending upon how far out you need to extend the receptacle. In
many cases, you'll find the receptacle wrapped with electrical tape to
prevent that. These seem to provide for a neater installation.

Hope this helps.

Peter.

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Several web pages recommend using these to extend an outlet or switch
box when wood is installed over a wall that has existing outlet boxes.
The problem is, I can't find them anywhere, even online. Lowe's only
has them in specific depths, none of which are what I need. Does
anyone know where I can get them?

Thanks for your help!

-dan z-


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"slate_leeper" wrote in message
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OK, I found two products. What do you all think of these?

http://www.builderdepot.com/browse.i...odstoreid=3983

These look like they can be stacked and/or sanded to produce the exact
depth needed. Disadvantage - they come in 25 packs.


http://www.improvementscatalog.com/product/id/100584.do

Looks quick and easy, but will they be sturdy enough? Alternative: cut
exact-depth spacers from steel tubing?


What's wrong with one of these: http://www.aifittings.com/m_9.htm They are
available individually at an electrical supply. There's no reason to trim
them, but they can be easily cut with aviation snips or BX cutters.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 13:05:15 -0400, "Peter Bogiatzidis"
wrote:

I prefer the Arlington BE1s because they also protect the sides of the
receptacle from possibly contacting the existing metallic box.

Well, guys, I certainly appreciate all your thoughtful help. The BE1
mentioned above looks like probably the best solution for my needs.
They also make the BE2 to fit the four-inch boxes, of which I have a
few.

-dan z-


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