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I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it
supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time
using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually
needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become
level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try
jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect
cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem.

My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load
out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of
small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure.
Or, is there something that is made for this that is available?

Thanks.

P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos?
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I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it
supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time
using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually
needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become
level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try
jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect
cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem.

My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load
out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of
small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure.
Or, is there something that is made for this that is available?

Thanks.

P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos
each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I am using
Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be able to attach or
include photos?

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Use a large timber to spread out the force. Perhaps a 4x6 or 4x8 under the
joists to spread out the force under the whole area being lifted. Or more,
depending on the length of the area being lifted.

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I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it
supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time
using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually
needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become
level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try
jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect
cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem.

My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load
out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of
small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure.
Or, is there something that is made for this that is available?

Thanks.

P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two
photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I
am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be
able to attach or include photos?


You don't post binaries to a non binary newsgroup. You post a
link to the photos on a photo hosting website. Most newservers
either delete binary posts on non binary groups, or they strip
out the binary. Many newservers, I should say.

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Georgetown, TX
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On Apr 24, 9:36*am, "BETA-35" wrote:
I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. *I now have it
supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time
using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. *It actually
needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become
level again. *I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try
jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. *I expect
cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem..

My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load
out over a larger surface area. *I assume I can look for and buy a couple of
small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure.
Or, is there something that is made for this that is available?

Thanks.

P.S. -- *I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. *It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. *I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. *What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos?


A screw jack is cheap and will help with control, you want to do it
over weeks or more.
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On Apr 24, 9:36*am, "BETA-35" wrote:
I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. *I now have it
supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time
using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. *It actually
needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become
level again. *I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try
jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. *I expect
cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem..

My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load
out over a larger surface area. *I assume I can look for and buy a couple of
small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure.
Or, is there something that is made for this that is available?

Thanks.

P.S. -- *I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. *It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. *I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. *What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos?


4" is alot, walls will crack, doors and windows will be issues, go slow


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Use a large timber to spread out the force. Perhaps a 4x6 or 4x8 under the
joists to spread out the force under the whole area being lifted. Or more,
depending on the length of the area being lifted.

....... Put the pictures on a website, and
include a URL for the picture in your posting.
Okay, hopefully this link will work:

http://sjimx.com

Rather than using a piece of timber directly on the top of the bottle jack, I am thinking I will need something like a steel plate. The reason is that I think the top of the bottle jack will push up into any piece of timber I use.

The space I have to work with (for the bottle jack) is about 11 inches between the top of the support column and the the cross-braces I added that will be jacked up.
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:33:04 GMT, Robert Allison
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BETA-35 wrote:

I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it
supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time
using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually
needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become
level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try
jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect
cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem.

My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load
out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of
small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure.
Or, is there something that is made for this that is available?

Thanks.

P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two
photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I
am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be
able to attach or include photos?


You don't post binaries to a non binary newsgroup. You post a
link to the photos on a photo hosting website. Most newservers
either delete binary posts on non binary groups, or they strip
out the binary. Many newservers, I should say.


And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times
with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the
inappropriate use of HTML.
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I've used bottle jacks to do some pretty amazing things. Even the little
two ton ones. Yes, steel plate is good to use. You can probably get some
scraps at the local steel supplier or recycler, or just scrounge. I make
jacks out of pipe and the masonry screw corner things, then put a jack on
top of that, screw it up, and start pumping. Handy things, and not
expensive. Pretty sturdy and stiff. I found the screw corners at yard
sales for a buck apiece. Bet they cost a lot more than that new.

BIG CAUTION .... be sure the base you are putting the jack on is substantial
and will take the weight. Also make sure that it won't kick out sideways.
Always put pieces in between jack rather than using the screw out foot, as
lengthening the foot makes it more unstable.

Jack short distances, then brace, reset, and jack short distance. If the
worst happens, it's supported, and will only fall a short distance.

Go slow. Be safe.

Steve


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I've used bottle jacks to do some pretty amazing things. *Even the little
two ton ones. *Yes, steel plate is good to use. *You can probably get some
scraps at the local steel supplier or recycler, or just scrounge. *I make
jacks out of pipe and the masonry screw corner things, then put a jack on
top of that, screw it up, and start pumping. *Handy things, and not
expensive. *Pretty sturdy and stiff. *I found the screw corners at yard
sales for a buck apiece. *Bet they cost a lot more than that new.

BIG CAUTION .... be sure the base you are putting the jack on is substantial
and will take the weight. *Also make sure that it won't kick out sideways.
Always put pieces in between jack rather than using the screw out foot, as
lengthening the foot makes it more unstable.

Jack short distances, then brace, reset, and jack short distance. *If the
worst happens, it's supported, and will only fall a short distance.

Go slow. *Be safe.

Steve


Have a screw jack also, If the hydraulic jack fails or you dont
control it right alot of damage can occur
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And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times
with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the
inappropriate use of HTML.


Maybe one day, if I try really really hard, I'll get to be perfect like you.




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"Sam E" wrote in message
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And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times
with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the
inappropriate use of HTML.


Maybe one day, if I try really really hard, I'll get to be perfect like you.


You're out of line, son. Usenet is not for the weak. This is a friendly
group, but you might get more **** than you can swallow if you don't
mind the rules. I was tempted to ream you a new one myself for three
consecutive posts with attachments.
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You're out of line, son. Usenet is not for the weak. This is a friendly
group, but you might get more **** than you can swallow if you don't
mind the rules. I was tempted to ream you a new one myself for three
consecutive posts with attachments.


First, dippo, I am not your son. At 60, I may even be older than you. And
I am not weak.

Did you read what I wrote? I wrote that I did not know why what I was
trying to post wasn't showing up (for me). I wrote that in case somehow my
posts were showing up 3 times for others when I couldn't see them (I still
do not see on my news server). Someone explained what the problem was, so
now I know, and I did what they suggested. and it worked (I used a URL link
instead of a direct attachment).


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You're out of line, son. Usenet is not for the weak. This is a friendly
group, but you might get more **** than you can swallow if you don't
mind the rules. I was tempted to ream you a new one myself for three
consecutive posts with attachments.


First, dippo, I am not your son. At 60, I may even be older than you. And
I am not weak.

Did you read what I wrote? I wrote that I did not know why what I was
trying to post wasn't showing up (for me). I wrote that in case somehow my
posts were showing up 3 times for others when I couldn't see them (I still
do not see on my news server). Someone explained what the problem was, so
now I know, and I did what they suggested. and it worked (I used a URL link
instead of a direct attachment).


I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments.
And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and
learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark.
That was more out of line than the mistakes, IME.

Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, and there's a reason --
it's because newcomers have a very annoying habit of not doing any
research into usenet protocol. As lawless as it is, there are
guidelines, and those guidelines are sometimes defended with extreme
prejudice.

At the moment, some of us are a bit edgy because of the severely
retarded crowd that stumbled in here from google, (I'm not referring to
the spammers) who collectively lack one clue about where they are or
what they're doing.

So don't act like an idiot and maybe if you're lucky, you won't get
treated like one. Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you
figure out what's up.
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I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments.
And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and
learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark.


The person who "tried to set me straight" wrote,

"And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times
with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the
inappropriate use of HTML."

That wasn't an effort to be helpful -- it was a pompous rude lecture. It
followed someone else's genuine effort to post an answer to my "P.S." about
having trouble seeing what I was trying to post. And, my "inappropriate use
of HTML" was my unsuccessful attempt at trying that in case posting in plain
text was the reason my posts with photos weren't appearing.

Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, . . . . ,


I am not a newcomer to Usenet. I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more
than a decade.

. . . . . Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you
figure out what's up.


Good advice. You should try following it.


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"Smitty Two" wrote in message

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I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments.
And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and
learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark.


The person who "tried to set me straight" wrote,

"And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times
with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the
inappropriate use of HTML."

That wasn't an effort to be helpful -- it was a pompous rude lecture. *It
followed someone else's genuine effort to post an answer to my "P.S." about
having trouble seeing what I was trying to post. *And, my "inappropriate use
of HTML" was my unsuccessful attempt at trying that in case posting in plain
text was the reason my posts with photos weren't appearing.

Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, . . . . ,


I am not a newcomer to Usenet. *I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more
than a decade.

. . . . . Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you
figure out what's up.


Good advice. *You should try following it.


Yeah, some people have a condscending attitude and act like they own
the group. You obviously meant no harm and I don't see what you did
as a big deal. Now the spammers, that's a different story.


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"Smitty Two" wrote in message
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I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments.
And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and
learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark.


The person who "tried to set me straight" wrote,

"And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times
with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the
inappropriate use of HTML."

That wasn't an effort to be helpful -- it was a pompous rude lecture. It
followed someone else's genuine effort to post an answer to my "P.S." about
having trouble seeing what I was trying to post. And, my "inappropriate use
of HTML" was my unsuccessful attempt at trying that in case posting in plain
text was the reason my posts with photos weren't appearing.

Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, . . . . ,


I am not a newcomer to Usenet. I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more
than a decade.


I seriously doubt that. The difference between a binary group and a
non-binary group is pretty fundamental. Anyone who's been using usenet
for more than a week, or has ever read one single FAQ page about usenet,
and has an IQ above 65 would have figured that out.


. . . . . Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you
figure out what's up.


Good advice. You should try following it.



I did follow it. I STFU until I knew what was up. And I repeat the
process when I go wandering into a new group.
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Use a large timber to spread out the force. Perhaps a 4x6 or 4x8 under the
joists to spread out the force under the whole area being lifted. Or more,
depending on the length of the area being lifted.

....... Put the pictures on a website, and
include a URL for the picture in your posting.
Okay, hopefully this link will work:

http://sjimx.com

Rather than using a piece of timber directly on the top of the bottle jack, I am
thinking I will need something like a steel plate. The reason is that I think
the top of the bottle jack will push up into any piece of timber I use.

The space I have to work with (for the bottle jack) is about 11 inches between
the top of the support column and the the cross-braces I added that will be
jacked up.

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You could used a steel plate, or a chunk of hardwood, if it is really a problem.


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I am not a newcomer to Usenet. I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more
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Yet you still posted attachments.


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