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bottle jack to raise dormer/room
I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end
(before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem. My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure. Or, is there something that is made for this that is available? Thanks. P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos? |
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"BETA-35" wrote in message . .. I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end (before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem. My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure. Or, is there something that is made for this that is available? Thanks. P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos? ************************************************** ************************8 Use a large timber to spread out the force. Perhaps a 4x6 or 4x8 under the joists to spread out the force under the whole area being lifted. Or more, depending on the length of the area being lifted. Pictures are only allowed in newsgroups with the word "binaries" in their name. Many servers automatically drop binaries from non-binary newsgroups, which means most people won't be albe to see them. Put the pictures on a website, and include a URL for the picture in your posting. |
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BETA-35 wrote:
I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end (before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem. My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure. Or, is there something that is made for this that is available? Thanks. P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos? You don't post binaries to a non binary newsgroup. You post a link to the photos on a photo hosting website. Most newservers either delete binary posts on non binary groups, or they strip out the binary. Many newservers, I should say. -- Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc. Georgetown, TX |
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On Apr 24, 9:36*am, "BETA-35" wrote:
I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end (before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. *I now have it supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. *It actually needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become level again. *I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. *I expect cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem.. My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load out over a larger surface area. *I assume I can look for and buy a couple of small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure. Or, is there something that is made for this that is available? Thanks. P.S. -- *I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. *It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. *I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. *What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos? A screw jack is cheap and will help with control, you want to do it over weeks or more. |
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On Apr 24, 9:36*am, "BETA-35" wrote:
I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end (before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. *I now have it supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. *It actually needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become level again. *I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. *I expect cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem.. My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load out over a larger surface area. *I assume I can look for and buy a couple of small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure. Or, is there something that is made for this that is available? Thanks. P.S. -- *I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. *It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. *I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. *What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos? 4" is alot, walls will crack, doors and windows will be issues, go slow |
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"Bob F" wrote in message
Use a large timber to spread out the force. Perhaps a 4x6 or 4x8 under the joists to spread out the force under the whole area being lifted. Or more, depending on the length of the area being lifted. ....... Put the pictures on a website, and include a URL for the picture in your posting. Okay, hopefully this link will work: http://sjimx.com Rather than using a piece of timber directly on the top of the bottle jack, I am thinking I will need something like a steel plate. The reason is that I think the top of the bottle jack will push up into any piece of timber I use. The space I have to work with (for the bottle jack) is about 11 inches between the top of the support column and the the cross-braces I added that will be jacked up. |
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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:33:04 GMT, Robert Allison
wrote: BETA-35 wrote: I have a second floor dormer/room that had dropped a few inches on one end (before I bought the property) due to a poor support design. I now have it supported from underneath and I want to try jacking it up a little at a time using a 20-ton bottle jack on each of the two exterior corners. It actually needs to go up about 4 inches in order for the dormer/room floor to become level again. I don't know if that will be possible, but I want to try jacking it up a little at a time and see if that will be feasible. I expect cracks etc., but I am redoing the house so that is not an issue or problem. My question is, what can I put on top of the bottle jacks to spread the load out over a larger surface area. I assume I can look for and buy a couple of small steel plates to put on top of each bottle jack, but I am not sure. Or, is there something that is made for this that is available? Thanks. P.S. -- I tried posting this 3 times yesterday, and tried to attach two photos each time. It doesn't look like any of those posts appeared. I am using Outlook Express for a newsreader. What do I need to do to be able to attach or include photos? You don't post binaries to a non binary newsgroup. You post a link to the photos on a photo hosting website. Most newservers either delete binary posts on non binary groups, or they strip out the binary. Many newservers, I should say. And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the inappropriate use of HTML. |
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netnanny bull**** deleted
I've used bottle jacks to do some pretty amazing things. Even the little two ton ones. Yes, steel plate is good to use. You can probably get some scraps at the local steel supplier or recycler, or just scrounge. I make jacks out of pipe and the masonry screw corner things, then put a jack on top of that, screw it up, and start pumping. Handy things, and not expensive. Pretty sturdy and stiff. I found the screw corners at yard sales for a buck apiece. Bet they cost a lot more than that new. BIG CAUTION .... be sure the base you are putting the jack on is substantial and will take the weight. Also make sure that it won't kick out sideways. Always put pieces in between jack rather than using the screw out foot, as lengthening the foot makes it more unstable. Jack short distances, then brace, reset, and jack short distance. If the worst happens, it's supported, and will only fall a short distance. Go slow. Be safe. Steve |
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On Apr 24, 5:02*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
netnanny bull**** deleted I've used bottle jacks to do some pretty amazing things. *Even the little two ton ones. *Yes, steel plate is good to use. *You can probably get some scraps at the local steel supplier or recycler, or just scrounge. *I make jacks out of pipe and the masonry screw corner things, then put a jack on top of that, screw it up, and start pumping. *Handy things, and not expensive. *Pretty sturdy and stiff. *I found the screw corners at yard sales for a buck apiece. *Bet they cost a lot more than that new. BIG CAUTION .... be sure the base you are putting the jack on is substantial and will take the weight. *Also make sure that it won't kick out sideways. Always put pieces in between jack rather than using the screw out foot, as lengthening the foot makes it more unstable. Jack short distances, then brace, reset, and jack short distance. *If the worst happens, it's supported, and will only fall a short distance. Go slow. *Be safe. Steve Have a screw jack also, If the hydraulic jack fails or you dont control it right alot of damage can occur |
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"Sam E" wrote in message
... And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the inappropriate use of HTML. Maybe one day, if I try really really hard, I'll get to be perfect like you. |
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"BETA-35" wrote: "Sam E" wrote in message ... And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the inappropriate use of HTML. Maybe one day, if I try really really hard, I'll get to be perfect like you. You're out of line, son. Usenet is not for the weak. This is a friendly group, but you might get more **** than you can swallow if you don't mind the rules. I was tempted to ream you a new one myself for three consecutive posts with attachments. |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news You're out of line, son. Usenet is not for the weak. This is a friendly group, but you might get more **** than you can swallow if you don't mind the rules. I was tempted to ream you a new one myself for three consecutive posts with attachments. First, dippo, I am not your son. At 60, I may even be older than you. And I am not weak. Did you read what I wrote? I wrote that I did not know why what I was trying to post wasn't showing up (for me). I wrote that in case somehow my posts were showing up 3 times for others when I couldn't see them (I still do not see on my news server). Someone explained what the problem was, so now I know, and I did what they suggested. and it worked (I used a URL link instead of a direct attachment). |
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"BETA-35" wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote in message news You're out of line, son. Usenet is not for the weak. This is a friendly group, but you might get more **** than you can swallow if you don't mind the rules. I was tempted to ream you a new one myself for three consecutive posts with attachments. First, dippo, I am not your son. At 60, I may even be older than you. And I am not weak. Did you read what I wrote? I wrote that I did not know why what I was trying to post wasn't showing up (for me). I wrote that in case somehow my posts were showing up 3 times for others when I couldn't see them (I still do not see on my news server). Someone explained what the problem was, so now I know, and I did what they suggested. and it worked (I used a URL link instead of a direct attachment). I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments. And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark. That was more out of line than the mistakes, IME. Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, and there's a reason -- it's because newcomers have a very annoying habit of not doing any research into usenet protocol. As lawless as it is, there are guidelines, and those guidelines are sometimes defended with extreme prejudice. At the moment, some of us are a bit edgy because of the severely retarded crowd that stumbled in here from google, (I'm not referring to the spammers) who collectively lack one clue about where they are or what they're doing. So don't act like an idiot and maybe if you're lucky, you won't get treated like one. Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you figure out what's up. |
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message
news I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments. And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark. The person who "tried to set me straight" wrote, "And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the inappropriate use of HTML." That wasn't an effort to be helpful -- it was a pompous rude lecture. It followed someone else's genuine effort to post an answer to my "P.S." about having trouble seeing what I was trying to post. And, my "inappropriate use of HTML" was my unsuccessful attempt at trying that in case posting in plain text was the reason my posts with photos weren't appearing. Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, . . . . , I am not a newcomer to Usenet. I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more than a decade. . . . . . Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you figure out what's up. Good advice. You should try following it. |
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On Apr 25, 7:12*am, "BETA-35" wrote:
"Smitty Two" wrote in message news I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments. And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark. The person who "tried to set me straight" wrote, "And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the inappropriate use of HTML." That wasn't an effort to be helpful -- it was a pompous rude lecture. *It followed someone else's genuine effort to post an answer to my "P.S." about having trouble seeing what I was trying to post. *And, my "inappropriate use of HTML" was my unsuccessful attempt at trying that in case posting in plain text was the reason my posts with photos weren't appearing. Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, . . . . , I am not a newcomer to Usenet. *I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more than a decade. . . . . . Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you figure out what's up. Good advice. *You should try following it. Yeah, some people have a condscending attitude and act like they own the group. You obviously meant no harm and I don't see what you did as a big deal. Now the spammers, that's a different story. |
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"BETA-35" wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote in message news I read what you wrote, and saw all three of your posts with attachments. And someone tried to set you straight, and instead of apologizing and learning from your mistakes, you saw fit to respond with a snide remark. The person who "tried to set me straight" wrote, "And 3 wrongs don't make a right (posting the same pictures 3 times with slightly altered subject lines doesn't help). Neither does the inappropriate use of HTML." That wasn't an effort to be helpful -- it was a pompous rude lecture. It followed someone else's genuine effort to post an answer to my "P.S." about having trouble seeing what I was trying to post. And, my "inappropriate use of HTML" was my unsuccessful attempt at trying that in case posting in plain text was the reason my posts with photos weren't appearing. Usenet is known for being rude to newcomers, . . . . , I am not a newcomer to Usenet. I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more than a decade. I seriously doubt that. The difference between a binary group and a non-binary group is pretty fundamental. Anyone who's been using usenet for more than a week, or has ever read one single FAQ page about usenet, and has an IQ above 65 would have figured that out. . . . . . Best way to not act like an idiot is to STFU until you figure out what's up. Good advice. You should try following it. I did follow it. I STFU until I knew what was up. And I repeat the process when I go wandering into a new group. |
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"BETA-35" wrote in message . .. "Bob F" wrote in message Use a large timber to spread out the force. Perhaps a 4x6 or 4x8 under the joists to spread out the force under the whole area being lifted. Or more, depending on the length of the area being lifted. ....... Put the pictures on a website, and include a URL for the picture in your posting. Okay, hopefully this link will work: http://sjimx.com Rather than using a piece of timber directly on the top of the bottle jack, I am thinking I will need something like a steel plate. The reason is that I think the top of the bottle jack will push up into any piece of timber I use. The space I have to work with (for the bottle jack) is about 11 inches between the top of the support column and the the cross-braces I added that will be jacked up. ************************************************** *********** You could used a steel plate, or a chunk of hardwood, if it is really a problem. |
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"BETA-35" wrote in message I am not a newcomer to Usenet. I've been using Usenet newsgroups for more than a decade. Yet you still posted attachments. |
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