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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?



Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you leave.


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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?



Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you leave.


Pat, as far as we can see there's no valve on the unit except the main
one behind it. So simply turning the pilots on/off entails moving the
whole thing out from the wall. I was hoping we could install a
separate LP valve that is accessible without moving the unit.


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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?



Matches. Or one of those long lighters made for grills and such. It is not
uncommon to do it that way in Europe. The villa I rented in Italy had no
pilots but it was not a big deal as we only had breakfast there most days.

Turn them back on during heating season as it won't make much difference
then as you need heat anyway.


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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted
stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing
functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?



Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you
leave.


Pat, as far as we can see there's no valve on the unit except the main
one behind it. So simply turning the pilots on/off entails moving the
whole thing out from the wall. I was hoping we could install a
separate LP valve that is accessible without moving the unit.



You should be able to use the adjustment for the pilot to turn it off.
Simply adjust it down to nothing.




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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). *We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. *The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


Buy a $2.00 firelighter and shut the pilots off totally. Get out of
the lease after having the owner committed as new electric ignition
stoves are readily available at reasonable $$, and you offered to buy
it for him.her..
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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!


Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you leave.


Pat, as far as we can see there's no valve on the unit except the main
one behind it. So simply turning the pilots on/off entails moving the
whole thing out from the wall.


I think (but don't know) that you can just blow them out and a safety
valve will shut them off. Then you can just light "by hand".

If I'm wrong somebody will most likely correct me within 30 minutes,
if not 30 seconds, if not 30 nanoseconds...
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I think (but don't know) that you can just blow them out and a safety
valve will shut them off. Then you can just light "by hand".

If I'm wrong somebody will most likely correct me within 30 minutes,
if not 30 seconds, if not 30 nanoseconds...
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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!

Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


See if they will let you replace it if you agree in writing to the
following: Professional de-install then reinstall later when you move out.
You store it in a safe place.

Had renters here several years and they wanted to shift to an electric (I
have gas). I told them fine as long as they do the above plus pay for the
electric line that would have to be run. Told'em Garage was fine as storage
with us but not the back porch under a tarp as they first suggested. They
decided to keep the gas unit once they found the price of operation for a
gas oven where we are, is far cheaper.


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On Apr 22, 1:04�am, gpsman wrote:
On Apr 21, 9:31 pm, "nospam" wrote:





"Pat" wrote in messagenews:[email protected]...


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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). �We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. �The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!


Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. �I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you leave.


Pat, as far as we can see there's no valve on the unit except the main
one behind it. �So simply turning the pilots on/off entails moving the
whole thing out from the wall.


I think (but don't know) that you can just blow them out and a safety
valve will shut them off. �Then you can just light "by hand".

If I'm wrong somebody will most likely correct me within 30 minutes,
if not 30 seconds, if not 30 nanoseconds...
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nope no safety for that. theres a screw that sets pilot flame size,
just screw it down turning off pilot.

and yes in winter it helps heat home so turn it back on, as it costs
nothing


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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). ?We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. ?The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!


Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. ?I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you leave.


Pat, as far as we can see there's no valve on the unit except the main
one behind it. ?So simply turning the pilots on/off entails moving the
whole thing out from the wall.


I think (but don't know) that you can just blow them out and a safety
valve will shut them off. ?Then you can just light "by hand".

If I'm wrong somebody will most likely correct me within 30 minutes,
if not 30 seconds, if not 30 nanoseconds...
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nope no safety for that.


Yeah, we tried blowing out the pilots and all that happened
was the kitchen smelled like raw propane.

theres a screw that sets pilot flame size,
just screw it down turning off pilot.


We'd still like an easier solution. The burner pilot screws
are below a panel that has to be removed, the same is
true for the oven pilot. What a PITA.

The unit model# is G.E. JGBS03PPA3WH. The label
mentions an electronic ignition option, anyone know if it
can be easily/cheaply added?


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I remember the old one we had when I was a kid (1950's) and it did not
have a safety pilot, in other words if it was not lit, it would just
continue to leak gas.


You city slickers had everything. We had to light, oven included,
with matches kept, where else, on the stove.
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Ummm... Since no one's pointed this out yet: The pilot light exists
partially as a safety feature...to prevent you (or your cat) from
accidentally leaving an unlit burner turned on and blowing up your
house.

Whether that is a legal requirement or really a significant risk, I
have no idea.
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Theoretically that's possible but I wouldn't worry too much, with the pilot
lights out the risk is about the same as with electronic ignition, where
it's quite possible to turn the burners on 90% of the way, with gas flowing,
and never turn them on all the way to the point where the ignition sparks
are generated. I was a bit concerned when I first moved from an old pilot
light stove to a spark ignition one and realized there is no safety
interlock for the burners but that is the way it is for the stove top
burners, and it doesn't seem to ever present a problem for anyone I know.

The oven is a different case, you might want to leave that one on as a
precaution, to prevent having a buildup of gas in the oven, then a big
surprise when you try to light it!

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Ummm... Since no one's pointed this out yet: The pilot light exists
partially as a safety feature...to prevent you (or your cat) from
accidentally leaving an unlit burner turned on and blowing up your
house.

Whether that is a legal requirement or really a significant risk, I
have no idea.



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On Apr 22, 1:04*am, gpsman wrote:
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"Pat" wrote in messagenews:[email protected]...


"nospam" wrote in message
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A few months ago we moved into a rented house that uses a propane
tank for heat, and the owner isn't willing to replace the piloted stove/
oven combo with one that isn't sucking up propane 24/7 (at $3.50/
gallon). *We've adjusted the pilots best we could, but we can tell by
the amount of heat that a lot of energy (and $) is being wasted. *The
owner won't even allow us to replace the unit at our own expense!


Short of shutting off the valve to it entirely, and losing functionality
(practically speaking) of a stove/oven, do any other options exist?


Turn the pilot off and light it with a match. *I bet the landlord would
agree to a new one if you make it clear that it will remain after you leave.


Pat, as far as we can see there's no valve on the unit except the main
one behind it. *So simply turning the pilots on/off entails moving the
whole thing out from the wall.


I think (but don't know) that you can just blow them out and a safety
valve will shut them off. *Then you can just light "by hand".

If I'm wrong somebody will most likely correct me within 30 minutes,
if not 30 seconds, if not 30 nanoseconds...


Depends on the age of the unit. if it's really old it won't have a
flame sensor or thermocouple. Now the question is, what is "really
old?" I know that my grandparents' 1930s era stove didn't have one as
I recall, but every other stove I've messed with did, but that's not a
very large sample size.

nate

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