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Cats still ****ing on basement floor.
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use
their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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"Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message
... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck When you called the veterinarian's office, what suggestion(s) did they offer. I'm asking to nobody duplicates those suggestions in their responses. |
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We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. [...] Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Give them away to a good home? |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:29:26 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
wrote: There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Confrontational Avoidance. |
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Cats still ****ing on basement floor.
"Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message ... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Are they spayed/neutered? |
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In article , Grandpa Chuck says...
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Did you take them to the vet to see if there is anything wrong? Banty |
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Try a pet group.
rec.pets.cats alt.cats alt.animals.cat On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:26:31 -0500, "Charles" wrote: "Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message .. . We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Are they spayed/neutered? |
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Many cats will not use another cat's litter box.
Cat training is an unbelievably difficult task. They need to be scolded for urinating other than in their litter box and rewarded with treats for using the litter box. If you can't get them to use a litter box, it may be time to get them another home. Dogs have masters, but cats have servants. Dick |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:29:26 GMT, Grandpa Chuck
wrote: We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Well, it is not clear if the issue is physical, psychological or social issue. Have you taken the cat to a vet? The vet should be able to help you with either a medical issue or psychological behavior. Have you tried separating the two cats for a week? |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:30:33 -0500, Terry
wrote: Try a pet group. Are the pets familiar with home repair? |
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Put one sheet of copper on the end of the step, and one sheet on the floor
having them insulated. Now you connect one sheet to the positive and the other to the negative and when the cat sprays he connects the circuit and it immediately imprints on his little pea brain that ****ing there is not a good idea. If the correct voltage and amperage combination is selected, no permanent damage will result. A former employer of mine did this to detrain the neighbor cats from using his hubcaps as territory markers. -- Roger Shoaf If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent. "Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message ... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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Cats still ****ing on basement floor.
"Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message ... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me My Mom & Dad had a cat that ****ed in the corners all the time. Once they start doing it, it's nearly impossible to get it stopped. They tried everything to make the cat use it's litterbox - to no avail. They finally had to get rid of the cat. Silly cat ****ed his home away. |
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Cats still ****ing on basement floor.
Grandpa Chuck writes:
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? I know I answered this question about 2 weeks ago. Was that in alt.cats? I wasn't the only one. Did you follow any of the advice you got then? |
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On Mar 8, 7:29*pm, Grandpa Chuck wrote:
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck * *-τΏτ- * * *~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me Did these 2 cats come in the same package - arrive in the home at the same time? Were there cat(s) in the home before these two arrived? They are being territorial / marking their area. Ain't gonna change if this is the case. |
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"Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message ... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck Fi-Shock. One experience, and they won't ever go near that wall again. You can't put it up so that they will electrify themselves, as the spray of urine is not the continuous stream you need for electrical circuit. Smear some tuna oil on the wire, and get them to touch their nose on it. That will do it. Google it. Steve |
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"SteveB" meagain@rockvilleUSA wrote in message ... "Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message ... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck Have you considered counseling? Maybe it was something that happened in their kittenhood. Something traumatic that their inner kitten is trying to express. Maybe you were too lenient or strict during their litter box training. Do they drink a lot of beer? Are they registered Democrats? What is their reaction when Hillary or Barack or John come on CNN? Have you had them checked for colorblindness? Have you just tried talking with them and asking them what's the ****ing problem? Are they Capricorns? Do you play classical music for them when you're away? Do they suffer from separation anxiety? Has either had suicidal episodes or exhibited suicidal tendencies? Are they homosexual or heterosexual? Have they been neutered or spayed, and if so, did they have counseling after having some of their favorite body parts cut off/out? There's so many different things it could be. Either that, or you have two knuckleheads and you're going to have to decide whether you want to live in a house that reeks of cat **** for the next forty years or get rid of the cats. If they were mine, they'd be history. Or live outside. I love cats. I own one. She uses the kitty doors and kitty box. If she started spraying the walls, we'd have a talk or two, she'd either change or not, and she'd either stay or not. Steve |
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On Mar 8, 5:29*pm, Grandpa Chuck wrote:
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck * *-τΏτ- * * *~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me Spray the area with bleach |
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On Mar 8, 5:29 pm, Grandpa Chuck wrote:
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. On Mar 9, 10:43 am, ransley wrote: Spray the area with bleach Neither is a solution. Cat urine contains elements which are not removed by household cleaners, even bleach in some cases. So the cats smell these enzymes (or whatever) and believe that's an acceptable place to pee. To deal with the surface (and hopefully the behavior) you want something like this: http://www.epinions.com/reviews/Natu...Odor_Rem over. As the human of two cats, I can personally attest to its effectiveness on floors and furniture. |
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Grandpa Chuck wrote:
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Do cats have run of the house? Is one dominant? It may be the dominant one, if there is one, that is being bad. Can you keep them separate, or board one for a while, to see who it is? |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:36:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message .. . We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck When you called the veterinarian's office, what suggestion(s) did they offer. I'm asking to nobody duplicates those suggestions in their responses. Commercial products that we already have on the shelf. The vet gave both cats a clean bill of health. We need to find a solution that will actually remove the odor and discourage the cats from going where we don't want them too. The place they are doing it is only about 4' from on cat pan and maybe 10' from the other. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:26:31 -0500, "Charles"
wrote: "Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message .. . We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Are they spayed/neutered? One spayed, the other neutered. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:58:31 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:30:33 -0500, Terry wrote: Try a pet group. Are the pets familiar with home repair? Oh, yes. They help whenever they can and when the Australian Shepherd will leave us alone rather than playing let's herd the cats. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On 8 Mar 2008 15:26:58 -0800, Banty wrote:
In article , Grandpa Chuck says... We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Did you take them to the vet to see if there is anything wrong? Banty Yes. There isn't. All the vet wants to do is sell us more expensive cat repellents and odor removers that we already own. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:53:30 -0500, Phisherman
wrote: On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:29:26 GMT, Grandpa Chuck wrote: We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? Well, it is not clear if the issue is physical, psychological or social issue. Have you taken the cat to a vet? The vet should be able to help you with either a medical issue or psychological behavior. Have you tried separating the two cats for a week? The cats sleep together and play together, although either one can sometimes get pretty darned rough with the other. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:22:33 -0800, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote: Put one sheet of copper on the end of the step, and one sheet on the floor having them insulated. Now you connect one sheet to the positive and the other to the negative and when the cat sprays he connects the circuit and it immediately imprints on his little pea brain that ****ing there is not a good idea. If the correct voltage and amperage combination is selected, no permanent damage will result. A former employer of mine did this to detrain the neighbor cats from using his hubcaps as territory markers. Now there is an idea that makes some real sense since we have never been able to catch them doing it. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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"Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message
... On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:36:29 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Grandpa Chuck" wrote in message . .. We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck When you called the veterinarian's office, what suggestion(s) did they offer. I'm asking to nobody duplicates those suggestions in their responses. Commercial products that we already have on the shelf. The vet gave both cats a clean bill of health. We need to find a solution that will actually remove the odor and discourage the cats from going where we don't want them too. The place they are doing it is only about 4' from on cat pan and maybe 10' from the other. -- Grandpa Chuck New vet, just out of school? He/she had no suggestions for behavior modification? |
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Grandpa Chuck wrote:
We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. As long as THEY can smell the urine there, they'll keep peeing there. Until you develop a cat's sense of smell, doesn't matter what you can smell there. We've had good luck with Nature's Miracle, but we don't dab it on because it's expensive, we use enough to saturate the areas and let the enzymes work. And we apply it frequently. And we shake well before using, like the label says. -- If only there was a Republican running for President of the United States. |
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clifto wrote in :
As long as THEY can smell the urine there, they'll keep peeing there. Until you develop a cat's sense of smell, doesn't matter what you can smell there. We've had good luck with Nature's Miracle, but we don't dab it on because it's expensive, we use enough to saturate the areas and let the enzymes work. And we apply it frequently. And we shake well before using, like the label says. It would seem that if you have to use it("Nature's Miracle") frequently,it is not removing the stain/smell. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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Cats still ****ing on basement floor.
Grandpa Chuck wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:22:33 -0800, "Roger Shoaf" wrote: Put one sheet of copper on the end of the step, and one sheet on the floor having them insulated. Now you connect one sheet to the positive and the other to the negative and when the cat sprays he connects the circuit and it immediately imprints on his little pea brain that ****ing there is not a good idea. If the correct voltage and amperage combination is selected, no permanent damage will result. A former employer of mine did this to detrain the neighbor cats from using his hubcaps as territory markers. Now there is an idea that makes some real sense since we have never been able to catch them doing it. Try installing a small fan that continuously blows across the area. Have you considered the problem might not BE the cats? 1. The wood is "weeping" some vile substance put there originally by a "Save the Trees!" hippie. 2. Some other animal (racoon, opossum, Gila Monster) is doing the deed with the intent to sully the reputation of your cats and a long-range goal of eliminating the felines so this malovelent creature can have full reign over the territory. I know, for example, that badgers and ground hogs are both extremely devious. |
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On 10 Mar 2008 00:04:23 GMT, Jim Yanik wrote:
clifto wrote in : As long as THEY can smell the urine there, they'll keep peeing there. Until you develop a cat's sense of smell, doesn't matter what you can smell there. We've had good luck with Nature's Miracle, but we don't dab it on because it's expensive, we use enough to saturate the areas and let the enzymes work. And we apply it frequently. And we shake well before using, like the label says. It would seem that if you have to use it("Nature's Miracle") frequently,it is not removing the stain/smell. Vinegar and water will kill the urine enzymessp, so I'm told by a retired carpet professional. |
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Jim Yanik wrote:
clifto wrote in : As long as THEY can smell the urine there, they'll keep peeing there. Until you develop a cat's sense of smell, doesn't matter what you can smell there. We've had good luck with Nature's Miracle, but we don't dab it on because it's expensive, we use enough to saturate the areas and let the enzymes work. And we apply it frequently. And we shake well before using, like the label says. It would seem that if you have to use it("Nature's Miracle") frequently,it is not removing the stain/smell. "Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a long period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a chance to get all the urine. -- If only there was a Republican running for President of the United States. |
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:20:36 -0800, "SteveB" meagain@rockvilleUSA
wrote: "Oren" wrote Vinegar and water will kill the urine enzymessp, so I'm told by a retired carpet professional. The guy who did the carpet in one of my houses was a friend. He installed new. My dog took to peeing on the carpet in selected spots. I asked him what to do. He said all I could do was remove the carpet and pad and start from new. Once they had put their mark on the carpet, it would never come out with any amount of cleanings to where the animal could not smell the scent. He said the pad never ever dries out, and the smell stays in there. I had just had it cleaned about a week previous, and said, "Bah." He rolled back the carpet from the corner, and between the liner and the concrete it was still wet. I was amazed, as the professionals had left it so dry "looking" and clean. We got the dog to quit peeing on the carpet, and she stayed. If she had not quit, she would have been relocated. Good thing she quit, because she was one of the best dogs I have ever owned. A Springer spaniel that loved the kids and they grew up with her. That said, though, I am not enough of an outdoorsman or animal lover to share a house with any animal that will not go outside to relieve itself. Or that I have to provide and change the droppings tray. But that's just me. Except for my cat, that is. YMMV. Steve I'm aware of what you speak. When I stripped my house and spent months waiting to move in I made many photos of the damage from previous pets, owners (are as bad), etc. By that time I went to Ammonia to clean the slab. |
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I just posted the question in alt.cats and will check in the morning
to see what people there suggest. To all of you who have tried to give constructive suggestions, I want to say, "Thank you." -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:27:17 -0700 (PDT), buffalobill
wrote: On Mar 8, 6:29 pm, Grandpa Chuck wrote: We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50# weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the newspapers were stained with cat urine. There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to their litter pans every time. Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats? -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me neuter the owner? Had that done almost thirty years ago after the seventh child's birth. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 09:53:12 -0700 (PDT), Kyle
wrote: On Mar 8, 5:29 pm, Grandpa Chuck wrote: We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However, regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the riser for the bottom step. The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for about two days. On Mar 9, 10:43 am, ransley wrote: Spray the area with bleach Neither is a solution. Cat urine contains elements which are not removed by household cleaners, even bleach in some cases. So the cats smell these enzymes (or whatever) and believe that's an acceptable place to pee. To deal with the surface (and hopefully the behavior) you want something like this: http://www.epinions.com/reviews/Natu...Odor_Rem over. As the human of two cats, I can personally attest to its effectiveness on floors and furniture. We have used it and it did not help one bit, but thank you for the input. -- Grandpa Chuck -τΏτ- ~ Please grant me: the serenity to accept the people I cannot change the courage to change the one that I can the wisdom to know that it is me |
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"Oren" wrote Vinegar and water will kill the urine enzymessp, so I'm told by a retired carpet professional. The guy who did the carpet in one of my houses was a friend. He installed new. My dog took to peeing on the carpet in selected spots. I asked him what to do. He said all I could do was remove the carpet and pad and start from new. Once they had put their mark on the carpet, it would never come out with any amount of cleanings to where the animal could not smell the scent. He said the pad never ever dries out, and the smell stays in there. I had just had it cleaned about a week previous, and said, "Bah." He rolled back the carpet from the corner, and between the liner and the concrete it was still wet. I was amazed, as the professionals had left it so dry "looking" and clean. We got the dog to quit peeing on the carpet, and she stayed. If she had not quit, she would have been relocated. Good thing she quit, because she was one of the best dogs I have ever owned. A Springer spaniel that loved the kids and they grew up with her. That said, though, I am not enough of an outdoorsman or animal lover to share a house with any animal that will not go outside to relieve itself. Or that I have to provide and change the droppings tray. But that's just me. Except for my cat, that is. YMMV. Steve |
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