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"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a chance to
get all the urine.


You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not
thousands of times better than ours. They can smell urine in the breeze
from an animal a mile or more away. Some of the cleaning products you speak
of will help over a period of time, but it never completely comes out.

Ask any crime forensic specialist.

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Grandpa Chuck wrote:

We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use
their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However,
regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still
go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the
riser for the bottom step.

The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus
based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for
about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them
on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50#
weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the
newspapers were stained with cat urine.

There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to
their litter pans every time.

Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats?


Don't know whether this has been suggested, and I'm not going to read
all the posts to find out -- but I don't think anyone suggested it on
the first go-round: Aluminum foil. They still might find another place
to pee outside the box, but it won't be there.
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:25:07 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote:

Grandpa Chuck wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:22:33 -0800, "Roger Shoaf"
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Put one sheet of copper on the end of the step, and one sheet on the
floor having them insulated. Now you connect one sheet to the
positive and the other to the negative and when the cat sprays he
connects the circuit and it immediately imprints on his little pea
brain that ****ing there is not a good idea.

If the correct voltage and amperage combination is selected, no
permanent damage will result. A former employer of mine did this to
detrain the neighbor cats from using his hubcaps as territory
markers.



Now there is an idea that makes some real sense since we have never
been able to catch them doing it.


Try installing a small fan that continuously blows across the area.

Have you considered the problem might not BE the cats?

1. The wood is "weeping" some vile substance put there originally by a "Save
the Trees!" hippie.

2. Some other animal (racoon, opossum, Gila Monster) is doing the deed with
the intent to sully the reputation of your cats and a long-range goal of
eliminating the felines so this malovelent creature can have full reign over
the territory. I know, for example, that badgers and ground hogs are both
extremely devious.


This house was built in 1909, so I doubt those things happened.
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:38:37 -0500, Norminn
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Grandpa Chuck wrote:

We tried almost everything recommended to get our two cats to use
their litter pans and they do a pretty good job of it. However,
regardless of how often we clean and/or change the litter they still
go to the basement and **** on the floor up against the wall and the
riser for the bottom step.

The last thing we tried was washing the area thoroughly with citrus
based cleaner and then laying a towel there soaked in the solution for
about two days. Then we took three layers of newspaper and laid them
on the floor and part way up the wall and up the riser. We put a 50#
weight on it so they could not move it. By the next morning the
newspapers were stained with cat urine.

There has to be a definitive answer that will convince them to go to
their litter pans every time.

Anyone have any suggestions that do not involve harming the cats?


Do cats have run of the house?


Yes.

one dominant?


The five pound cat is just as apt to attack the fifteen pound cat as
the bigger one is to attack the smaller one. It appears it is
sometimes their way to play.

It may be the dominant
one, if there is one,
that is being bad. Can you keep them separate, or board one for a
while, to see who it is?


Not at the price they get for boarding fees around here.
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"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a chance to
get all the urine.


You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not


Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:48 -0800, SteveB meagain@rockvilleUSA wrote:


"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a chance to
get all the urine.


You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not


Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


We have no carpeting in our house.
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Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the

urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


True. I have an old dog, and once in a great while she would go to the
same spot on the carpet and urinate, and no matter what we did,
professional cleaning etc., she still went back to it. Finally, I
decided to put a kitchen chair over that spot at night so she couldn't
get to it, and put a small throw rug with waterproof sheeting under it
close by. She always goes to the throw rug now, which is easily picked
up and washed when she has an accident, but I don't think the smell is
completely out of it for her, even though it's washed, fabric softener
etc. At any rate it saves all of us a lot of grief.

Cheri


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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:48 -0800, SteveB meagain@rockvilleUSA wrote:


"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a chance
to
get all the urine.


You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not


Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


Whatever.



gotta get the last word in, huh?
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"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a chance
to
get all the urine.


You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not


Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


Whatever.


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Put one sheet of copper on the end of the step, and one sheet on the
floor having them insulated. Now you connect one sheet to the
positive and the other to the negative and when the cat sprays he
connects the circuit and it immediately imprints on his little pea
brain that ****ing there is not a good idea.


It's been tested, and it hardly ever works because the stream of urine is
rarely continuous. Snopes. Mythbuster. Shocking devices do work, and they
can be made to lie flat on the floor so that when the animal even enters the
area, they get a training shock. I'm setting up one now for a neighbor's
dog that steals my suet cakes from atop a kopi. It's going to have a hard
fall about six feet when it gets zapped. I think once ought to do it.

Steve




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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:48 -0800, SteveB meagain@rockvilleUSA wrote:


"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a
chance
to
get all the urine.

You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not

Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the
urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


Whatever.



gotta get the last word in, huh?


yep


I think our cats are actually going to have the last words.
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"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:51:00 -0800, SteveB wrote:

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:48 -0800, SteveB meagain@rockvilleUSA wrote:


"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a
chance
to
get all the urine.

You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not

Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the
urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.

Whatever.


gotta get the last word in, huh?


yep


I think our cats are actually going to have the last words.


rrrrrrower!

hiss spit.
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:48 -0800, SteveB meagain@rockvilleUSA wrote:


"Frequently" as in several times over a short period, not as in over a
long
period. That makes sure we didn't miss any spots, and gives it a
chance
to
get all the urine.

You NEVER get ALL the urine. Animals sense of smell are hundreds if not

Yes you can if the urine was on concrete and you use bleach. If the
urine
is on carpeting, then you're correct; you'll never get it all.


Whatever.



gotta get the last word in, huh?


yep


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