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[email protected] February 27th 08 09:45 PM

heat gun and lead paint
 
I am thinking about purchasing a heat gun to handle old paint in my
house. I tested the paint, which I presumed for years was lead-based
(and sealed under layers of modern paint, but the test came clean. I
am no fool and there has to be SOME lead paint in my house though. I
am thinking about purchasing a heat gun and was told by a friend that
if I keep the heat at 450 degrees then I probably wouldn't have
problems with it.

I have seen walls and molding with 5-7 layers of paint. Chemical
peels were a total disaster. They never worked more than 90% of the
time.

I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.

What's your advice on this one? Brand recommendations?

Richard J Kinch February 27th 08 10:10 PM

heat gun and lead paint
 
What's your advice on this one?

The vapor pressure (and thus the hazard) of lead at 450 deg F is close to
zero.

However, wholesale removal of paint with an electric heat gun is like
painting with a toothbrush: painstakingly slow. They just don't produce
much heat and little of what they do produce is transferred usefully to the
work.

John Grabowski February 27th 08 11:25 PM

heat gun and lead paint
 

wrote in message
...
I am thinking about purchasing a heat gun to handle old paint in my
house. I tested the paint, which I presumed for years was lead-based
(and sealed under layers of modern paint, but the test came clean. I
am no fool and there has to be SOME lead paint in my house though. I
am thinking about purchasing a heat gun and was told by a friend that
if I keep the heat at 450 degrees then I probably wouldn't have
problems with it.

I have seen walls and molding with 5-7 layers of paint. Chemical
peels were a total disaster. They never worked more than 90% of the
time.

I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.

What's your advice on this one? Brand recommendations?



The best stripper that I ever used was called Peel Away and in one
application it removed decades of paint layers down to the bare wood. It is
non-toxic and prevents the release of lead into the air. A painter
recommended it to me several years ago. The stuff is a paste and is covered
with a plastic sheet that is included and you just let it sit overnight and
peel away the paint layers the next day. With many layers some scraping may
be required. There was some areas that needed to be cleaned off with water
and a scouring pad, but it did a fabulous job for me. Much better than any
petroleum based product that I have used in the past.


Bob M. February 28th 08 01:01 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
wrote in message
...


I have seen walls and molding with 5-7 layers of paint. Chemical
peels were a total disaster. They never worked more than 90% of the
time.

I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.

What's your advice on this one? Brand recommendations?



1. Don't chew the painted surfaces.
2. With 5-7 layers of paint, I'd expect maybe the first two or 3 to be
lead-based and the rest not. In other words, nothing I'd worry about.


HeyBub[_2_] February 28th 08 02:39 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
wrote:
I am thinking about purchasing a heat gun to handle old paint in my
house. I tested the paint, which I presumed for years was lead-based
(and sealed under layers of modern paint, but the test came clean. I
am no fool and there has to be SOME lead paint in my house though. I
am thinking about purchasing a heat gun and was told by a friend that
if I keep the heat at 450 degrees then I probably wouldn't have
problems with it.



Man up!

Lead paint won't hurt you.



[email protected] February 28th 08 04:09 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
On Feb 27, 9:39�pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
wrote:
I am thinking about purchasing a heat gun to handle old paint in my
house. �I tested the paint, which I presumed for years was lead-based
(and sealed under layers of modern paint, but the test came clean. �I
am no fool and there has to be SOME lead paint in my house though. �I
am thinking about purchasing a heat gun and was told by a friend that
if I keep the heat at 450 degrees then I probably wouldn't have
problems with it.


Man up!

Lead paint won't hurt you.


at least work in a well ventilated area, windows open fan blowing
fumes away from you and out window.

replacement windows with new trim will save you long term.... better
sealed windows for lower heating bills, and added home value at
resale.

i once saw my neigbor strip and redo all his steel casement windows
one summer ollie did a great job.

2 years later he replaced them all since they were so cold and still
leaked...

he sadly wasted one summer of his life

Robert Barr February 28th 08 11:42 PM

heat gun and lead paint
 

I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.

What's your advice on this one? Brand recommendations?


Wouldn't the heat cause the window glass to break? I know I broke a few
using a paint heater, but it was the electric heating element variety.
It was almost useless around windows because of this.

mm February 29th 08 01:35 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:25:37 -0500, "John Grabowski"
wrote:


The best stripper that I ever used was called Peel Away and in one
application it removed decades of paint layers down to the bare wood. It is
non-toxic and prevents the release of lead into the air. A painter
recommended it to me several years ago. The stuff is a paste and is covered
with a plastic sheet that is included and you just let it sit overnight and
peel away the paint layers the next day. With many layers some scraping may
be required. There was some areas that needed to be cleaned off with water
and a scouring pad, but it did a fabulous job for me. Much better than any
petroleum based product that I have used in the past.


I suppose for the parts that need a scouring pad, the OP could try a
heat gun. Then he would know firsthand how well it worked, and be
grateful he hadn't tried to do the whole project with it.

[email protected] February 29th 08 01:58 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
On Feb 28, 8:35�pm, mm wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:25:37 -0500, "John Grabowski"

wrote:

The best stripper that I ever used was called Peel Away and in one
application it removed decades of paint layers down to the bare wood. �It is
non-toxic and prevents the release of lead into the air. �A painter
recommended it to me several years ago. �The stuff is a paste and is covered
with a plastic sheet that is included and you just let it sit overnight and
peel away the paint layers the next day. �With many layers some scraping may
be required. �There was some areas that needed to be cleaned off with water
and a scouring pad, but it did a fabulous job for me. Much better than any
petroleum based product that I have used in the past.


I suppose for the parts that need a scouring pad, the OP could try a
heat gun. �Then he would know firsthand how well it worked, and be
grateful he hadn't tried to do the whole project with it.


harbor freight has cheap heat guns, i use one of theirs infrequently
at work. at least good enough quality for testing

Pat February 29th 08 03:46 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
On Feb 27, 4:45*pm, wrote:
I am thinking about purchasing a heat gun to handle old paint in my
house. *I tested the paint, which I presumed for years was lead-based
(and sealed under layers of modern paint, but the test came clean. *I
am no fool and there has to be SOME lead paint in my house though. *I
am thinking about purchasing a heat gun and was told by a friend that
if I keep the heat at 450 degrees then I probably wouldn't have
problems with it.

I have seen walls and molding with 5-7 layers of paint. *Chemical
peels were a total disaster. *They never worked more than 90% of the
time.

I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.

What's your advice on this one? *Brand recommendations?


See page 9
http://www.hud.gov/offices/lead/libr...FieldGuide.pdf

Better bet -- read the whole guide.

Best bet: Take a course. They are free.
http://www.leadsafetraining.org/
You'll run into other issues down the road so you might as well learn
to solve them.



[email protected] February 29th 08 06:03 PM

heat gun and lead paint
 
On Feb 27, 8:13*pm, "Buck Turgidson" wrote:
I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.


I would think it'd be easier to just replace the window and door frames.
Unless the moldings are historically significant. *You don't state the age
of your house.


BT:
Might be okay in a newer house, but a lot of work in an older one with
10"
baseboards and lots of molding around the windows. I know. I tried
this in
one room. After that, the rest had the top 20-year-old layer of latex
paint
wet-scuffed with sandpaper, loose chips removed, the whole works
washed
with TSP and warm water, and recoated with good quality latex paint.
In
twenty years it will need recoating, and at that point I'll decide if
I want to
recoat it again with whatever space-age paint they are making, or
what.
AND that's probably the last time I'll ever have to make that
decision.

These rooms had paint-grade pine moldings anyhow (or rather, what
was paint-grade in 1908 and is now fine cabinet-grade. :) )
Downstairs
has really nice hardwood under that paint (philistines) and I will
have to
consider that separately...stripping is a lot of work.

Removing and replacing all that wood is difficult, costly, and in the
end
I probably released more lead dust than I would have otherwise...I
took
every precaution to contain it, of course, giving some acquaintances
cause to pass on stories about their paranoid freakazoid friend, but
hey, my son's blood tests were normal and that's all I care about.
These precautions also paid dividends in elevated spousal temper
levels...they kept patching-plaster dust off the living room floor.
Precautions were putting down a plastic dropcloth, wet-mopping with
TSP instead of vacuuming, and changing clothes & shoes after
working.

And even if you've got the time, there is still that money...6 panel
doors and 10" baseboards...

A P

[email protected] March 4th 08 04:58 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
Thanks for all the comments.

The house is roughly 90 years old now depending on what document to
believe.

90% of what I want to clean is possibly replaceable. However 10% is
irreplaceable ornate wood, so I may want to focus just on that.

I used PeelAway as a sample on one door and frame and it took me three
weekends, $100+ worth of product, and I still never got more than 90%
of the paint off- which means for a 7 ft door we had about 10 inches
of paint left on. Then the glue that held the wood together dripped
off and the panels started to warp. Peelaway basically didn't work
even thought it worked the best of all the chemical peels.

I think I'm going to just buy a heat gun used and test it out.

George March 5th 08 04:32 AM

heat gun and lead paint
 
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:45:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I am thinking about purchasing a heat gun to handle old paint in my
house. I tested the paint, which I presumed for years was lead-based
(and sealed under layers of modern paint, but the test came clean. I
am no fool and there has to be SOME lead paint in my house though. I
am thinking about purchasing a heat gun and was told by a friend that
if I keep the heat at 450 degrees then I probably wouldn't have
problems with it.

I have seen walls and molding with 5-7 layers of paint. Chemical
peels were a total disaster. They never worked more than 90% of the
time.

I have, basically 12-18 window and door frames to repaint, a
staircase, a mantle, and 3 full rooms.

What's your advice on this one? Brand recommendations?


Back in the day (like 40 yrs ago), my brothers and I stripped a number
of houses with blowtorches. Now, I use a heat gun, run at max temp.
(The nameplate says 212-1000 deg, 1400 Watts.) IMO, you need serious
heat. As someone said above, just don't eat the stuff.

(AFAICT, I don't have serious cognitive impairment. Of course, I'd be
the last to know.)

George

[email protected] March 5th 08 12:58 PM

heat gun and lead paint
 
theres some evidence high exposure to lead, causes memory loss in old
age............

you could get a old guy to do the stripping he will have nothing to
lose.........

seriously just do it well ventilated


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