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I have an old water heater (providing hot water on demand, not filling
a tank). This water heater is old and inefficient and needs replacing as it has started leaking and finding the replacement part is difficult. Anyway I reckon it is time to get a new one, can anyone recommend a good water heater, wall mounted, providing hot water on demand for 1 bath, 3 sinks and a washing machine. Thanks, Joesph |
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On Feb 27, 11:14�am, JosephB wrote:
I have an old water heater (providing hot water on demand, not filling a tank). �This water heater is old and inefficient and needs replacing as it has started leaking and finding the replacement part is difficult. Anyway I reckon it is time to get a new one, can anyone recommend a good water heater, wall mounted, providing hot water on demand for 1 bath, 3 sinks and a washing machine. Thanks, Joesph do you mind the delay bettween opening valve and getting hot water? tankless must be sized to use and incoming water temperature. in areas that get cold in winter incoiming water temperature dives, causing troubles. you could get a regular tank unit for perhaps 400 bucks. tankless will be at least several times that, and you must get one that has local service, new tankless are high tech and require knowledgable techs. just like high efficency furnaces new tankless are more complex and more likely to break |
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On Feb 27, 10:43Â*am, " wrote:
On Feb 27, 11:14�am, JosephB wrote: I have an old water heater (providing hot water on demand, not filling a tank). �This water heater is old and inefficient and needs replacing as it has started leaking and finding the replacement part is difficult. Anyway I reckon it is time to get a new one, can anyone recommend a good water heater, wall mounted, providing hot water on demand for 1 bath, 3 sinks and a washing machine. Thanks, Joesph do you mind the delay bettween opening valve and getting hot water? tankless must be sized to use and incoming water temperature. in areas that get cold in winter incoiming water temperature dives, causing troubles. you could get a regular tank unit for perhaps 400 bucks. tankless will be at least several times that, and you must get one that has local service, new tankless are high tech and require knowledgable techs. just like high efficency furnaces new tankless are more complex and more likely to break Hallerb, He said he has a tankless so quit trying to put them down, as I am happy with my Bosch tanlkess also, I have no more time delay than at another location where I have a tank, they turn on when water flows and my Bosch 117000 Btu was $460.00 I do fine with a Bosch 117000 btu for one shower, if you are satisfied with the output then match the btu. Going up will require gas line size increase. If its for one person 117000 btu is fine. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 11:14?am, JosephB wrote: do you mind the delay bettween opening valve and getting hot water? There's a fix for that, you can put a sensor in the bathroom that detects when someone enters the room and tells a circulating pump to fill the line with hot water, so when you open the tap hot water comes out. you could get a regular tank unit for perhaps 400 bucks. And then pay to have it heat water all day every day including when nobody is home. |
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On Feb 27, 12:26�pm, "DGDevin" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 11:14?am, JosephB wrote: do you mind the delay bettween opening valve and getting hot water? There's a fix for that, you can put a sensor in the bathroom that detects when someone enters the room and tells a circulating pump to fill the line with hot water, so when you open the tap hot water comes out. you could get a regular tank unit for perhaps 400 bucks. And then pay to have it heat water all day every day including when nobody is home. actually the stand by losses are tiny, and in the winter they help heat your home |
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wrote in message ... And then pay to have it heat water all day every day including when nobody is home. actually the stand by losses are tiny, and in the winter they help heat your home How tiny they are depends on energy costs, and those seem unlikely to ever go down again. Plus in the winter our water tank heats our garage. |
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On Feb 27, 1:07�pm, "DGDevin" wrote:
wrote in message ... And then pay to have it heat water all day every day including when nobody is home. actually the stand by losses are tiny, and in the winter they help heat your home How tiny they are depends on energy costs, and those seem unlikely to ever go down again. �Plus in the winter our water tank heats our garage.. ours is in a otherwise heated space,,, basement. |
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On Feb 27, 11:43Â*am, " wrote:
On Feb 27, 12:26�pm, "DGDevin" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 11:14?am, JosephB wrote: do you mind the delay bettween opening valve and getting hot water? There's a fix for that, you can put a sensor in the bathroom that detects when someone enters the room and tells a circulating pump to fill the line with hot water, so when you open the tap hot water comes out. you could get a regular tank unit for perhaps 400 bucks. And then pay to have it heat water all day every day including when nobody is home. actually the stand by losses are tiny, and in the winter they help heat your home I have an apt where I have a pump I shut off because it added 30% to the bill, few people have fully insulated pipes in walls so standby losses are great. |
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"JosephB" wrote in message ... I have an old water heater (providing hot water on demand, not filling a tank). This water heater is old and inefficient and needs replacing as it has started leaking and finding the replacement part is difficult. Anyway I reckon it is time to get a new one, can anyone recommend a good water heater, wall mounted, providing hot water on demand for 1 bath, 3 sinks and a washing machine. Thanks, If you can access to natural gas or propane: http://www.foreverho****er.com/ I've had people tell me they pay for themselves in 2 years. I am going to get one in the fall when I redo my kitchen (going to replace me electric stove/oven with a gas one). Joesph |
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In my former apartment I had a Bosch that worked great once it got
installed. The landlady and her boyfriend did the install themselves and it took them a very long time with lots of expletives, and once they got it running they did have to call a plumber twice to fix a couple things, but I chalk that up to the installation, not the heater. I only had it for about a year before I moved, but I absolutely loved it. I have heard some professional plumbers say that Bosch tankless are not good quality, but not sure if that is based on up to date info. Just be sure you get the right kind for your climate. In northern climates there are some models that cannot heat the water quickly enough in the winter. good luck! |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:06:51 -0800 (PST), ransley
wrote: On Feb 27, 11:43*am, " wrote: On Feb 27, 12:26?pm, "DGDevin" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 11:14?am, JosephB wrote: do you mind the delay bettween opening valve and getting hot water? There's a fix for that, you can put a sensor in the bathroom that detects when someone enters the room and tells a circulating pump to fill the line with hot water, so when you open the tap hot water comes out. you could get a regular tank unit for perhaps 400 bucks. And then pay to have it heat water all day every day including when nobody is home. actually the stand by losses are tiny, and in the winter they help heat your home And in summer they also heat your home, but I would think the amount is small. My tank has 2 1/2 inches of foam all the way around, although perhaps less in the bottom and on the top. I have an apt where I have a pump I shut off because it added 30% to the bill, few people have fully insulated pipes in walls so standby losses are great. When you have the circulating pump. When not, the pipes and the water inside them cool off after the hot water is turned off. For that matter, the cold water pipes and the water inside them warm up when the cold water is turned off. At least where it is cooler where the water pipes are buried than in the house, which is most places most of the time. I sometimes run the cold water for a while so I can get a cold drink out of the bathroom sink and I realize that I've changed all the water in the pipe to colder water and cooled the pipes too, and all that has to be reheated in the winter. Plus every time I flush the toilet. I wonder how much money that is costing me, compared to say, going down stairs, and taking cold water from the refrigerator, or the tap water that first comes out plus ice. I have plastic drain pipes so I don't think there is much of an issue there. |
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On Feb 27, 6:11�pm, "Dr. Hardcrab" wrote:
"JosephB" wrote in message ... I have an old water heater (providing hot water on demand, not filling a tank). �This water heater is old and inefficient and needs replacing as it has started leaking and finding the replacement part is difficult. Anyway I reckon it is time to get a new one, can anyone recommend a good water heater, wall mounted, providing hot water on demand for 1 bath, 3 sinks and a washing machine. Thanks, If you can access to natural gas or propane: http://www.foreverho****er.com/ I've had people tell me they pay for themselves in 2 years. I am going to get one in the fall when I redo my kitchen (going to replace me electric stove/oven with a gas one). Joesph- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - cost of tankless installed is likely 3 or 4 times a standard tank......... new larger gas line direct from meter, possible flue issues, tankless are high btu, need large chimney. now the energy guide on most standard tanks is under 300 bucks a year. 250 appears average. regular tanks are about 56% efficent,,,,,, but heck lets say 50% just to make math easy that means half of 250 bucks is wasted, $125 bucks a year. so if you actually saved 125 bucks a year and a properly sized tankless cost 1000 bucks more than a standard tank installed, it will take at least 8 years before you save a dime, and tankless appear longest warranty is 10 years. sorry savings are minimal |
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