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Framing for a new Room - what hardware to use?
Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber?
I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. |
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Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. Maybe but nails have worked very well for a long time. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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On Feb 27, 5:05 am, wrote:
Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. Nails are generally more ductile....easier & faster to install (gun driven or even hand nailed) Screws (depending on the type you choose are) are often more brittle...esp drywall screws which are frequently used in inappropriate situations. They're call drywall screws for a reason. Framing nailing is just there to hold the frame together. The strength of the system really from the sheathing (drywall or plywood) ...shear transfer through the structure is now usually handled with framing connectors (Simpson hardware) but good old blocked & nailed connections can work as well. I'd suggest using 16d "shorts" 3 1/4" x .131 (really a 12d nail) gun driven nails for your framing. Yeah, the right screws can be stronger in some applications but in earth quake country or high wind areas I'd put my money on a properly design & constructed (nailed) structural system. cheers Bob |
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On Feb 27, 8:05*am, wrote:
Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. True. And using 2 screws per stud end is an even stronger, more robust way to frame the room. Lag bolts would be even stronger. Now ask yourself: What would you gain by using screws over nails? Under what circumstances would the extra expense be justified? If rooms framed with nails were failing by the millions, then the industry would have switched to screws along time ago. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that most problems occur due to failure of the wood itself, and/or poor construction methods, as opposed to the fastener used - assuming it wasn't a plastic plug or chewing gum. g |
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wrote: Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. You really need both. For the usual 3.5" screws an impact driver is absolutely essential. The Makita 18V Li ion drivers are a good choice. Using an air nailer is the fastest where there is plenty of room to work. A typical pro tool is the Senco line using using KD29 or ND29 3.5" 16d nails or HL27 3" 10d Ring Shank nails. The screws have the highest holding power, ring shank nails are next and plain nails are last but better these days than in the past with the coatings they use. These modern tools are so easy to use these days that before long hammers may only be used for breaking rocks. G Joe |
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wrote Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. I have a feeling, there are 3 little pigs involved in this. And, a huff and a puff. |
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wrote Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. I have a feeling, there are 3 little pigs involved in this. And, a huff and a puff. |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:05:23 -0800, cebukid70 wrote:
Should I use penny nails or screws for framing the lumber? I am adamant that screws are a stronger, more robust way to frame the room. glue and screw. works for furniture. |
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