Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Home Repair (alt.home.repair) For all homeowners and DIYers with many experienced tradesmen. Solve your toughest home fix-it problems. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took
one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC |
#2
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it |
#3
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. |
#4
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. Try taking the sample to some electric supply companies or lighting showrooms to match it up. In the Halo catalog the actual dimensions of the housing are published. If you can, take a picture of the inside and outside of the fixture and post it. |
#5
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
MiamiCuse wrote:
I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? I bought a salami at Sam's this week. It was labeled "Yard of Beef" but was only 18" long. When I asked about this discrepancy at the check-out counter, the clerk said: "It's a short three feet." Didn't that line come from the movie "The Night They Invented Burlesque?" |
#6
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a sticker in it that is still barely legible. It says: AT Lite Lighting Equipment E-15522 Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to sell lights. I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced. Thanks, MC |
#7
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a sticker in it that is still barely legible. It says: AT Lite Lighting Equipment E-15522 Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to sell lights. I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced. Thanks, MC Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more info |
#8
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a sticker in it that is still barely legible. It says: AT Lite Lighting Equipment E-15522 Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to sell lights. I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced. Thanks, MC Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more info Here is their online catalog: It appears that these days their selling mostly commercial lighting and Halo brand,(another Cooper brand) clones. If you scroll down past the exit and emergency lighting you'll find some older and original Atlite stuff. Listed under specialty, they list a couple of hi hats: http://www.atlite-lighting.com/commo...te_Catalog.pdf |
#9
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a sticker in it that is still barely legible. It says: AT Lite Lighting Equipment E-15522 Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to sell lights. I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced. Thanks, MC Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more info I had a customer last year with a problem with two of her low voltage Atlite recessed lights. They were identical to the Halo H99 low voltage. It was a lot easier to order parts for Halo then it was for Atlite even though they are both owned by Cooper. One thing I found out is that the Atlite models are cheaper than the Halo's. |
#10
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"John Grabowski" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a sticker in it that is still barely legible. It says: AT Lite Lighting Equipment E-15522 Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to sell lights. I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced. Thanks, MC Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more info I had a customer last year with a problem with two of her low voltage Atlite recessed lights. They were identical to the Halo H99 low voltage. It was a lot easier to order parts for Halo then it was for Atlite even though they are both owned by Cooper. One thing I found out is that the Atlite models are cheaper than the Halo's. That's the same deal with their A149 , which is identical to Lightolier 1105. Twenty years ago the Lightolier trim cost about $25 and the Atlite $10 |
#11
Posted to alt.home.repair
|
|||
|
|||
Is 6" recessed light actually 6"?
"RBM" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... "RBM" wrote in message ... "MiamiCuse" wrote in message ... I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit. If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows that trims and housings of the same size may not match up? MC You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and post it I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded and it's 35 years old. OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a sticker in it that is still barely legible. It says: AT Lite Lighting Equipment E-15522 Underwriters Laboratory, Inc. I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to sell lights. I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced. Thanks, MC Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more info Here is their online catalog: It appears that these days their selling mostly commercial lighting and Halo brand,(another Cooper brand) clones. If you scroll down past the exit and emergency lighting you'll find some older and original Atlite stuff. Listed under specialty, they list a couple of hi hats: http://www.atlite-lighting.com/commo...te_Catalog.pdf Wow RBM you are the man, I see the light now, literally. I have like 40 of these cans on the outside that needs replacement or repair, I will check their catalog and see what they have. I did not know they invented recessed lights. I believe these lights were installed in 1972, so they lasted 35 years is not bad. MC |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
""FREE "DELETED FILE RECOVERY " TRUE "" | Electronics Repair | |||
Questions about a "light gauge steel screwdriver" DW968 | Home Repair | |||
Car's "air-bag" light stays on. (danger or just 10-degree-F temp?) | Home Repair | |||
JOKE: How many alt.hvac "experts" does it take to screw in a light bulb | Home Repair | |||
Orange Peel Texture? "Knockdown" or "Skip Trowel" also "California Knock-down" | Home Repair |