On Tue 19 Feb 2008 15:06:54, Krazee Brenda wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:17:45 GMT, Franklin wrote:

Donna, I'm sure you will excuse me for snipping out the rest of
your post.

On Mon 28 Jan 2008 02:36:56, Donna wrote:
Yes. Let's all pitch in.
So far, I've posted mine.
We could all post what we find and then maintain it, as someone
said prior, on a common site

If I speak to the rest of us ... the above is an extract of
Donna's trolling work where Donna's posting makes the smooth
transition from reasonably normal-bizarre points into the
predictable troll sequence to induce others to get enmeshed. So
we see "let us", "all of us", "join me", "let's all pitch in",
etc.

Once a small group of followers is acquired, they are then asked
to help answer a series of increasing banal questions indicating a
seemingly lower level of ability in Donna than was previously
imaginable or a twoering naivety. After the followers start to
provide their answers to Donna's questions, then Donna makes the
payoff. Donna tells them how it should actually be done.

To make sure the acolytes are ready and willing for another round
of this game, Donna congratulates them heartily for providing her
with the info.

What a nice, smoothly executed trolls' mind-game.


Well, lookee here, intelligence (not the TLA type) in ACF. You
nailed him, Ben, Psyops 101.



Maybe Donna's method should be called "info flooding"? Or maybe
"rearing & shearing a flock"?

Not long ago our Donna started a thread in alt.home.repair with
this innocent subject:

"Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater"

Since then, other posters have made over 200 contributions. However
that wasn't a thread which sort of "got interesting". Instead it's a
thread sustained by Donna's diligigent efforts to milk contributers.
This has involved her making over 100 posts to the thread.

It's a nice demo of specialist trolling.

Will posters in alt.home.repair accept what's really happening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:26:30 GMT, Franklin wrote:

Well, lookee here, intelligence (not the TLA type) in ACF. You
nailed him, Ben, Psyops 101.


Maybe Donna's method should be called "info flooding"? Or maybe
"rearing & shearing a flock"?

Not long ago our Donna started a thread in alt.home.repair with
this innocent subject:

"Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater"

Since then, other posters have made over 200 contributions. However
that wasn't a thread which sort of "got interesting". Instead it's a
thread sustained by Donna's diligigent efforts to milk contributers.
This has involved her making over 100 posts to the thread.

It's a nice demo of specialist trolling.

Will posters in alt.home.repair accept what's really happening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE

Oh Peeeeeteeee, I love you!!!!!
--
See Brenda's UniWorldWare
http://tinyurl.com/nm2yt

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 03:56:48, wrote:

On Feb 19, 5:26 pm, Franklin wrote:
Not long ago Donna started a thread in alt.home.repair with this
subject:
"Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater"
Since then, other posters have made over 200 contributions.

Franklin, One can understand why the women here might abhor a
knowledgeable person who can contribute more than they on a variety
of topics - but why do you hate it so much when the usenet works
the way it was designed?

You, somehow, see a troll. I see a person asking questions,
following up on responses, supplying extensive research even going
so far as to post before and after pictures of the home water
heater repair on the alt.home.repair newsgroup
(http://www.flickr.com/donnaohl). If someone being active on a
newsgroup, concentrating in a single thread, and focused on a
single topic is your definition of a troll then you are the one
with the problem.

What is so wrong with the usenet working well that bothers you so?
Is it simply that you have nothing to contribute? Or is there more
to this uncalled for animosity?



Dear 58Plummers

You write that Donna is "concentrating in a single thread". Why not
have a look at how some other Donna threads in other groups developed?
Start with alt.comp.freeware if you wish.

You also mention the matter of gender. What makes you think the poster
with the name Donna is a woman?

If I call myself "Helen Smith" and use the nym "drhelen" then would you
think this is my web page? http://www.drhelen.blogspot.com/

Ask our esteemed Krazee Brenda who is, of course, a woman.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:07:09 GMT, Franklin wrote:

Dear 58Plummers

You write that Donna is "concentrating in a single thread". Why not
have a look at how some other Donna threads in other groups developed?
Start with alt.comp.freeware if you wish.

You also mention the matter of gender. What makes you think the poster
with the name Donna is a woman?

If I call myself "Helen Smith" and use the nym "drhelen" then would you
think this is my web page? http://www.drhelen.blogspot.com/

Ask our esteemed Krazee Brenda who is, of course, a woman.

Of CoarseWare
--
See Brenda's UniWorldWare
http://tinyurl.com/nm2yt

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 23:27:06, wrote:

On Feb 20, 2:07 pm, Franklin wrote:
What makes you think the poster
with the name Donna is a woman?

Franklin

Why do you care what the gender of the poster is?

Why does gender matter so much to you that you continue to spam a home
repair group with your nonsense about cad/cam for water heaters and
links to utube and dr helen which have nothing to do with home
repair?

Do you have a problem with gender?



Gender is immaterial. That is my very point. And, of course you know
it. Sadly, your post is just creates obfuscation and confusion. In
another posting you refer to me as a 'troll' but remove the newsgroups
the posting doesn't appear in all the groups.

You overlook the fact that it was you who raised the question of gender.

If your memory serves you correctly, I replied to say it was not
important.

Permit me to assist your memory by restoring some of the text which got
snipped out in your last few posts. if you don't mind, I'll use
capitals for clarity. Excuse me if I give the impression of shouting.


================================================== ==========
I MADE THE FOLLOWING POST AND IT CONTAINS NO EXPLICIT OR IMPLIED
REFERENCE TO GENDER --------

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 01:26:30, Franklin wrote:

Maybe Donna's method should be called "info flooding"? Or maybe
"rearing & shearing a flock"?

Not long ago our Donna started a thread in alt.home.repair with
this innocent subject:
"Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater"

Since then, other posters have made over 200 contributions.
However that wasn't a thread which sort of "got interesting".
Instead it's a thread sustained by Donna's diligent efforts to
milk contributors. This has involved her making over 100 posts to
the thread.

It's a nice demo of specialist trolling. Will posters in
alt.home.repair accept what's really happening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE
================================================== ==========


================================================== ==========
YOU REPLIED WITH THE FOLLOWING POST -----------

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 03:56:48, wrote:

Franklin, One can understand why the women here might abhor a
knowledgeable person who can contribute more than they on a variety
of topics - but why do you hate it so much when the usenet works
the way it was designed?

You, somehow, see a troll. I see a person asking questions,
following up on responses, supplying extensive research even going
so far as to post before and after pictures of the home water
heater repair on the alt.home.repair newsgroup
(http://www.flickr.com/donnaohl). If someone being active on a
newsgroup, concentrating in a single thread, and focused on a
single topic is your definition of a troll then you are the one
with the problem.

What is so wrong with the usenet working well that bothers you so?
Is it simply that you have nothing to contribute? Or is there more
to this uncalled for animosity?
================================================== ==========

Did you notice that you wrote the following:

"One can understand why the women here might abhor
a knowledgeable person who can contribute more
than they on a variety of topics".


================================================== ==========
I NOTICED YOU BROUGHT UP THE MATTER OF GENDER AND I REPLIED -----

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 22:07:09, Franklin wrote:

You write that Donna is "concentrating in a single thread". Why
not have a look at how some other Donna threads in other groups
developed? Start with alt.comp.freeware if you wish.

You also mention the matter of gender. What makes you think the
poster with the name Donna is a woman?

If I call myself "Helen Smith" and use the nym "drhelen" then would
you think this is my web page? http://www.drhelen.blogspot.com/

Ask our esteemed Krazee Brenda who is, of course, a woman.
================================================== ==========


Now then. Did you notice the bit where I wrote,
"You also mention the matter of gender".

In that same post, I then asked you,
"What makes you think the poster with the name donna is a woman?"

In fact, what does it matter? Why did you bring up gender at all? I
went on in my post to explain how I would suggest you do not focus on
gender because the gender of a poster is usually unknown.


================================================== ==========
YOU THEN MADE THIS BIZARRE POSTING WHICH SEEMS TO MISUNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
SAID YOURSELF -----

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 23:27:06, wrote:

Why do you care what the gender of the poster is?

Why does gender matter so much to you that you continue to spam a home
repair group with your nonsense about cad/cam for water heaters and
links to utube and dr helen which have nothing to do with home
repair? Do you have a problem with gender?
================================================== ==========

There is an old trick of switching the blame by using confusion. I'm
sure it just an error but you remove newsgroups without giving
notification which would makes it difficult for this branch to be
followed by anyone unless they are in a ACF.

Turning to a related subject, I posted yesterday to ask where one of our
more, er, unusual posters in ACF had got to. I mean Hummingbird.

Are you actually Hummingbird?

Is Donna actually Hummingbird?

Meanwhile, when you get a moment perhaps you or anyon else might like to
do a little more background reading and take up my earlier suggestion to
look at Donna's delightful posts to alt.comp.freeware in which she
claims she want to redesign the higher levels of Windows XP. No one is
quite that stupid. Not even the poster called Donna.

Then watch Donna's development from being a gauch cross-poster and
apparent total newbie develop over a long and gently period up until
Donna gives over-effusive thanks for help which was never actually given
to a problem whose answer Donna knew all along. Then move on and start
again reeling in those who are so half-asleep they do not know what took
place the first time.

Start your reading with this thread in alt.comp.freeware.
(1) How to manage the WinXP start menu OUTSIDE of "Documents and
Settings"?

Then move on to the delightful tour-de-force seen in ACF in:
(2) Is anything major missing from this first-pass freeware filing
system by FUNCTION (not by brand)?

Watch & smile as you see once again the reeling in of punters in ACF
although some have started to get quite wise to what is happening:
(3) Stopping Sporge tutorial using NewsProxy (where do we get
nfilter.dat)?

Switch newsgroups and watch a replay. This time we start with a sweetie
of a troll designed just for those in alt.home.repair:
(4) Amana Air Command 80 Gas Fired Furnace (4 blinks) troubleshooting

See the development and the near-continual payoff taking place in the
current magnum opus in AHR:
(5) Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater

Notice too how some are so drawn and re-drawn into this invisible but
sticky web. They can not see what is happening even after they have
been shown.

Best wishes.
Franklin

On Wed 20 Feb 2008 01:53:35, G. Morgan
wrote:

Franklin wrote:

On Tue 19 Feb 2008 15:06:54, Krazee Brenda wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:17:45 GMT, Franklin wrote:

Donna, I'm sure you will excuse me for snipping out the rest of
your post.

On Mon 28 Jan 2008 02:36:56, Donna wrote:
Yes. Let's all pitch in.
So far, I've posted mine.
We could all post what we find and then maintain it, as someone
said prior, on a common site

If I speak to the rest of us ... the above is an extract of
Donna's trolling work where Donna's posting makes the smooth
transition from reasonably normal-bizarre points into the
predictable troll sequence to induce others to get enmeshed. So
we see "let us", "all of us", "join me", "let's all pitch in",
etc.

Once a small group of followers is acquired, they are then asked
to help answer a series of increasing banal questions indicating
a seemingly lower level of ability in Donna than was previously
imaginable or a twoering naivety. After the followers start to
provide their answers to Donna's questions, then Donna makes the
payoff. Donna tells them how it should actually be done.

To make sure the acolytes are ready and willing for another
round of this game, Donna congratulates them heartily for
providing her with the info.

What a nice, smoothly executed trolls' mind-game.


Well, lookee here, intelligence (not the TLA type) in ACF. You
nailed him, Ben, Psyops 101.



Maybe Donna's method should be called "info flooding"? Or maybe
"rearing & shearing a flock"?

Not long ago our Donna started a thread in alt.home.repair with
this innocent subject:

"Quick basic advice on a dripping gas 40-gal hot-water heater"

Since then, other posters have made over 200 contributions.
However that wasn't a thread which sort of "got interesting".
Instead it's a thread sustained by Donna's diligigent efforts to
milk contributers. This has involved her making over 100 posts to
the thread.

It's a nice demo of specialist trolling.

Will posters in alt.home.repair accept what's really happening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp6-wG5LLqE


Don't forget all the regulars in alt.hvac that bent over backwards
to help out a lady! ;-)



Mr G Morgan,

That's no lady, that's a Donna Ohl pretender.
I've heard that the real Donna Ohl wants her name back.

Franklin