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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:22:48 -0600, Cheapo Groovo
wrote: You can also use bubble wrap over your windows. It's been friggin cold near Chicago , 117 total therms or 3.77 per day [snip] For those who don't know, "friggin" is local slang for ice fishing on lake Michigan :-) |
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Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:
I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? ASSUMING that one therm equals 100 cubic feet (CCF) of (Ohio) gas, in 2001 just before we installed a high efficiency (sucks air and and blows exahust via ground level tubes) we used (Columbia Gas here reads meters only every other month, so I divided true reading deltas by two) between 21 (summer) and 234 CCF (Winter). The summer 8-20 CCF is ho****er plus gas dryer. House is 1,500 square feet, with half-basement. We are empty-nesters. In summary: 2000: 20 - 188 CCF 2001: 21 - 234 CCF In October, 2001, we insalled the Hi-eff ("90%") furnace, and then the consumptions became: 2002: 8 to 136 CCF. 2003: -- 2004: 9 - 150 CCF 2005: 12 - 153 CCF 2006: 11 - 157 CCF 2007: 9 - 164 CCF rough summary: Annually before, 1100 CCF/yr Annually after, 850 CCF/yr The stated effficiency of the old furnace was 60% (40% went up the chimney). (120,000 BTU burner) The new furnace is 90% (10% goes out the exhaust, and water condensate trickles into my sump pump well). (90,000 BTU burner. I should note that California alots only 2 therms a day for baseline costs of about $1.22 per therm (plus 5 cents per therm PPP Surcharge); so apparently I'm consuming double the natural gas energy California allows (regardless of home size or number of people) for base rates. We (me & wife) use just over two per day. The over-baseline charges are $1.37 per therm plus that same 5 cents per therm additional charge for poor people (i.e., the California Gas PPP Surcharge). Our rates are "all over the place". Does ANYONE actually use just 2 therms per day for their gas furnace and hot-water heater for two people living in a small 1,500 sqft house? Sometimes. As our two boys were growing up, it was a bit crowded at times. But we prevailed: They left the nest, and now here we are! Angelo campanella |
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Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:
(California) baseline costs of about $1.22 per therm (plus 5 cents per therm PPP Surcharge. The over-baseline charges are $1.37 per therm plus that same 5 cents per therm additional charge for poor people (i.e., the California Gas PPP Surcharge). Our recent (Ohio) gas bill was $248 for 187 CCF = $1.33 per CCF. Angelo campanella |
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Harry wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:22:48 -0600, Cheapo Groovo wrote: You can also use bubble wrap over your windows. It's been friggin cold near Chicago , 117 total therms or 3.77 per day [snip] For those who don't know, "friggin" is local slang for ice fishing on lake Michigan :-) Well there ya go, I had no clue? Who woulda "friggin" known? -- Zyp |
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"Charles G. Hill" wrote in message ... For lo, Donna Ohl hath proclaimed: I'm curious how I compare with others in my natural gas usage. I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? I do realize that there are _many_ factors that affect usage but there is only one number for your final usage. That's what I'd like to compare. I am billed in dekatherms, and assuming 10 therms to the dekatherm, my last bill (over 32 days) was for 5.96 Dth, therefore 59.6 therms, or 1.86 therms per day. Background: small 1940s home in Oklahoma, mostly average temperatures for the month, gas furnace and water heater. Incidentally, the meter reads in Mcf; a BTU factor is applied based on the quality of the gas received. The actual meter reading was 5.8 Mcf. During the summer readings have been in the 2-Dth range per month, about 0.7 therms per day; however, this past October I replaced my 22-year-old water heater with a new tank, which should theoretically use a bit less gas than its predecessor. Not sure what a Therm is, but we used 600 cubic metres last month and that was an estimate. So the actual number was probably higher. |
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"clams_casino" wrote in message ... Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:14:46 -0800, Anthony Matonak wrote: I'm only one person but I average about 5 therms a month. Wow. 5 therms a month is extremely low, it seems to me. The US Department of Energy assumes the "average" houshold uses a bit less than 1/2 a therm a day *just* for the water heater alone! 43,302 kJ/day = 41,045 Btu/day = 0.4105 therm/day That would be 15 therms a month just for hot water for the average household in America. I wonder if Europe uses the same amount? We used 30 therms in both July / Aug (hot water & furnace pilot) - US. When I had a furnace with a pilot light, I always shut it off except during the heating season. |
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"Rick Blaine" wrote in message ... CJT wrote: Do they ever actually meter therms, or measure ccf and convert? It seems to me to actually measure the therms, they'd need to continuously monitor the heating value of the gas being delivered, and that seems quite difficult compared with just measuring cf. Of course, assuming they've stripped the gas down to nearly pure methane, the conversion is easy, but natural gas can vary according to ethane and higher content. They do here... Meter reading is by CCF, then a conversion factor applied to get therm, multiplied by the rate per therm. The factor changes slightly every month... Based upon the "heating value" of that month's gas, I assume. |
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uwe had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...mo-288720-.htm : We live in San Jose, CA and used 883 Therms last year. 487 Therms is heating and 396 is cooking and hot water. (Dryer is electric). So for cooking and hot water we use approx. 1 Therm per day. For heating we use an average of 1.5 Therms per day (487 therms/365 days). Our HVAC is way oversized with leaky ducts. With properly done airsealing and properly installed insulation we should be able to reduce our gas consumption by at least 50%-70%. Our research and experience shows that homes that have gone through a home performance contractor retrofit will cost between 10c to 20c per sqft to heat and cool in Northern California. For a 2,000 sqft home the heating and cooling bill would therefore run between $200 and $400 per year.(per year NOT per month). For more information look at the California Building Performance Contractors Association website. www.cbpca.org ------------------------------------- Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo wrote: I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? I should note that California alots only 2 therms a day for baseline costs of about $1.22 per therm (plus 5 cents per therm PPP Surcharge); so apparently I'm consuming double the natural gas energy California allows (regardless of home size or number of people) for base rates. The over-baseline charges are $1.37 per therm plus that same 5 cents per therm additional charge for poor people (i.e., the California Gas PPP Surcharge). Does ANYONE actually use just 2 therms per day for their gas furnace and hot-water heater for two people living in a small 1,500 sqft house? ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair,misc.consumers.frugal-living,sci.energy - messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
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uwe had written this in response to
http://www.thestuccocompany.com/main...mo-288720-.htm : We live in San Jose, CA and used 883 Therms last year. 487 Therms is heating and 396 is cooking and hot water. (Dryer is electric). So for cooking and hot water we use approx. 1 Therm per day. For heating we use an average of 1.5 Therms per day (487 therms/365 days). Our HVAC is way oversized with leaky ducts. With properly done airsealing and properly installed insulation we should be able to reduce our gas consumption by at least 50%-70%. Our research and experience shows that homes that have gone through a home performance contractor retrofit will cost between 10c to 20c per sqft to heat and cool in Northern California. For a 2,000 sqft home the heating and cooling bill would therefore run between $200 and $400 per year.(per year NOT per month). For more information look at the California Building Performance Contractors Association website. www.cbpca.org ------------------------------------- Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo wrote: I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? I should note that California alots only 2 therms a day for baseline costs of about $1.22 per therm (plus 5 cents per therm PPP Surcharge); so apparently I'm consuming double the natural gas energy California allows (regardless of home size or number of people) for base rates. The over-baseline charges are $1.37 per therm plus that same 5 cents per therm additional charge for poor people (i.e., the California Gas PPP Surcharge). Does ANYONE actually use just 2 therms per day for their gas furnace and hot-water heater for two people living in a small 1,500 sqft house? ##-----------------------------------------------## Delivered via http://www.thestuccocompany.com/ Building Construction and Maintenance Forum Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup - alt.home.repair,misc.consumers.frugal-living,sci.energy - messages and counting! ##-----------------------------------------------## |
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Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo wrote:
I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? I should note that California alots only 2 therms a day for baseline costs of about $1.22 per therm (plus 5 cents per therm PPP Surcharge); so apparently I'm consuming double the natural gas energy California allows (regardless of home size or number of people) for base rates. Does ANYONE actually use just 2 therms per day for their gas furnace and hot-water heater for two people living in a small 1,500 sqft house? Seattle, heat & water, 2800 sqft house (about 1800 sqft heated): My last bill shows 3.8 therms/day last month and about 2.5 therms/day average for the past year. Since San Jose is considerably warmer than Seattle, I suspect you could get close to 2 therms/day down there... |
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Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo wrote: I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? Here's what a year in Chicago runs for us. http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...93_38_32PM.jpg |
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replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Thom Ianniccari wrote:
I am in Northern NJ and in January (which was frigid weather) the gas company said I used 11.522 therms. Does that seem low for those conditions in a 1,500 sq ft house with thermostat set to 55 F? -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm |
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replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote:
I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5, Mojave Dan wrote:
replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm The only problem with all of the above is that natural gas is currently about $2.50, near it's twenty year low, which was ~$1.75 and that was just three years ago. There have been periods where nat gas has spiked, but this isn't one of them. In other words, the free market is working. when it's been 6 times that price. The la |
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On 2/7/2019 1:14 PM, Mojave Dan wrote:
replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== There are two ways to lower your heat bill. 1. You can lower the thermostat and wear a sweater. 2. You can insulate your house.Â* I'm guessing yours has very little. |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:22:19 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5, Mojave Dan wrote: replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm The only problem with all of the above is that natural gas is currently about $2.50, near it's twenty year low, which was ~$1.75 and that was just three years ago. There have been periods where nat gas has spiked, but this isn't one of them. In other words, the free market is working. Just out of curiosity, I looked at my latest gas bill and converted the CCF that they bill us for to therms. We used about 78 therms before the weather got really cold. Next month's bill should be more. "Therms" is a dopey unit. They meter by volume, and that's what we are billed for. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:07:57 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 3:25 PM, wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:22:19 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5, Mojave Dan wrote: replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm The only problem with all of the above is that natural gas is currently about $2.50, near it's twenty year low, which was ~$1.75 and that was just three years ago. There have been periods where nat gas has spiked, but this isn't one of them. In other words, the free market is working. Just out of curiosity, I looked at my latest gas bill and converted the CCF that they bill us for to therms. We used about 78 therms before the weather got really cold. Next month's bill should be more. "Therms" is a dopey unit. They meter by volume, and that's what we are billed for. Cindy Hamilton I've not received a gas bill yet in our new house so I don't know how it is billed. When I was working, we were billed for therms. A therm is 100,000 Btu. It makes sense in the way your electric bills KW, or energy used. Gas is the same in that respect but meters read CCF and most people would understand that easier. When it was -15 F here last week, the gas meter was whirring like a top. Happy Florida living, Ed. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 2/7/2019 4:26 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:07:57 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 3:25 PM, wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:22:19 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:14:07 PM UTC-5, Mojave Dan wrote: replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm The only problem with all of the above is that natural gas is currently about $2.50, near it's twenty year low, which was ~$1.75 and that was just three years ago. There have been periods where nat gas has spiked, but this isn't one of them. In other words, the free market is working. Just out of curiosity, I looked at my latest gas bill and converted the CCF that they bill us for to therms. We used about 78 therms before the weather got really cold. Next month's bill should be more. "Therms" is a dopey unit. They meter by volume, and that's what we are billed for. Cindy Hamilton I've not received a gas bill yet in our new house so I don't know how it is billed. When I was working, we were billed for therms. A therm is 100,000 Btu. It makes sense in the way your electric bills KW, or energy used. Gas is the same in that respect but meters read CCF and most people would understand that easier. When it was -15 F here last week, the gas meter was whirring like a top. Happy Florida living, Ed. Cindy Hamilton In CT we had oil heat. You just parked a tanker truck outside. We had the AC on a little the past couple of days. I'm curious how much the electric bill will be come summer. So far, it is cheaper than I've paid in many years. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 17:06:18 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
We had the AC on a little the past couple of days. I'm curious how much the electric bill will be come summer. So far, it is cheaper than I've paid in many years. My guess is the SEER rating of the HVAC. And do the units match. Mine is SEER 14, matched. In the desert southwest the bill went down bigly -- better than it was with a builder grade HVAC unit. |
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On 2/7/2019 10:14 AM, Mojave Dan wrote:
replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love== They sell it overseas because the get much more money there. |
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On Saturday, February 16, 2008 at 3:24:44 PM UTC-5, Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator wrote:
I'm curious how I compare with others in my natural gas usage. I used 120 therms in the past 30 days (about 4 therms per day). HOW MANY THERMS DID YOU USE LAST MONTH? I do realize that there are _many_ factors that affect usage but there is only one number for your final usage. That's what I'd like to compare. I just received my bill. For the 29 days ending 19 June, my abode (3 people, gas furnace and water heater) we used 3.810 therms total. The only thing that we do that is super energy efficient is an instant water heater that I insulated further. I am something of an environmentalist, so we waste nothing here. YMMV. P.S. During frigid NH winters, we use ~50 therms/mo. It's all in temp. control, proper insulation, and use of timers. P.P.S. I looked at our running total usage for the last 12mo. period. Total came to 244.3 therms. If we had sane winters, that 4 therms/mo. would flatline. Electricity last month came to 225 kWh. It too goes up a bit during dark, cold winters - which is all of them, but they are trending less cold - but only by several kWh as the furnace blowers(there are two) consume a bit of power. |
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replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Yo wrote:
Date Month Total Bill Therms 9/20/2019 September $17.99 9.5 8/20/2019 August $14.72 6.2 7/22/2019 July $16.11 7.6 6/19/2019 June $7.54 11.0 5/20/2019 May $26.87 18.5 4/19/2019 April $68.39 54.9 3/21/2019 March $73.74 77.1 2/20/2019 February $63.42 64.7 1/23/2019 January $74.28 57.8 12/19/2018 December $54.60 40.4 11/16/2018 November $29.79 21.5 10/19/2018 October $20.70 12.1 9/19/2018 September $16.19 7.6 8/20/2018 August $13.98 5.4 -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...th-728493-.htm |
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"Yo" m wrote in message oupdirect.com... replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Yo wrote: Date Month Total Bill Therms 9/20/2019 September $17.99 9.5 8/20/2019 August $14.72 6.2 7/22/2019 July $16.11 7.6 6/19/2019 June $7.54 11.0 5/20/2019 May $26.87 18.5 4/19/2019 April $68.39 54.9 3/21/2019 March $73.74 77.1 2/20/2019 February $63.42 64.7 1/23/2019 January $74.28 57.8 12/19/2018 December $54.60 40.4 11/16/2018 November $29.79 21.5 10/19/2018 October $20.70 12.1 9/19/2018 September $16.19 7.6 8/20/2018 August $13.98 5.4 Your numbers make no sense. 57.8 costs $74.28 and 77.1 costs $73.74 64.7 costs $63.42 and 54.9 costs $68.39 |
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On 9/27/2019 8:58 PM, catalpa wrote:
"Yo" m wrote in message oupdirect.com... replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Yo wrote: Date Month Total Bill Therms 9/20/2019 September $17.99 9.5 8/20/2019 August $14.72 6.2 7/22/2019 July $16.11 7.6 6/19/2019 June $7.54 11.0 5/20/2019 May $26.87 18.5 4/19/2019 April $68.39 54.9 3/21/2019 March $73.74 77.1 2/20/2019 February $63.42 64.7 1/23/2019 January $74.28 57.8 12/19/2018 December $54.60 40.4 11/16/2018 November $29.79 21.5 10/19/2018 October $20.70 12.1 9/19/2018 September $16.19 7.6 8/20/2018 August $13.98 5.4 Your numbers make no sense. 57.8 costs $74.28 and 77.1 costs $73.74 64.7 costs $63.42 and 54.9 costs $68.39 I didn't compute nor look up to compare, but NG prices can vary pretty radically. |
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How many therms (natural gas) do you use per day (per month)?
On 9/28/2019 1:09 AM, dpb wrote:
On 9/27/2019 8:58 PM, catalpa wrote: "Yo" m wrote in message oupdirect.com... replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Yo wrote: Date Month Total Bill Therms 9/20/2019 September $17.99 9.5 8/20/2019 August $14.72 6.2 7/22/2019 July $16.11 7.6 6/19/2019 June $7.54 11.0 5/20/2019 May $26.87 18.5 4/19/2019 April $68.39 54.9 3/21/2019 March $73.74 77.1 2/20/2019 February $63.42 64.7 1/23/2019 January $74.28 57.8 12/19/2018 December $54.60 40.4 11/16/2018 November $29.79 21.5 10/19/2018 October $20.70 12.1 9/19/2018 September $16.19 7.6 8/20/2018 August $13.98 5.4 Your numbers make no sense. 57.8 costs $74.28 and 77.1 costs $73.74 64.7 costs $63.42 and 54.9 costs $68.39 I didn't compute nor look up to compare, but NG prices can vary pretty radically. Well, I downloaded the data and then looked up the EIA NG residential price data (only available online thru June this year) and the result is t = 14×6 table Date Month Cost Therms Rate NGPrice __________ ___________ _____ ______ _______ _______ 09/20/2019 'September' 17.99 9.5 0.52807 NaN 08/20/2019 'August' 14.72 6.2 0.4212 NaN 07/22/2019 'July' 16.11 7.6 0.47176 NaN 06/19/2019 'June' 7.54 11 1.4589 15.67 05/20/2019 'May' 26.87 18.5 0.6885 12.84 04/19/2019 'April' 68.39 54.9 0.80275 10.92 03/21/2019 'March' 73.74 77.1 1.0456 9.48 02/20/2019 'February' 63.42 64.7 1.0202 9.47 01/23/2019 'January' 74.28 57.8 0.77814 9.43 12/19/2018 'December' 54.6 40.4 0.73993 9.63 11/16/2018 'November' 29.79 21.5 0.72172 9.43 10/19/2018 'October' 20.7 12.1 0.58454 12.26 09/19/2018 'September' 16.19 7.6 0.46943 17.31 08/20/2018 'August' 13.98 5.4 0.38627 18.63 A scatter plot of the calculated rate versus the NG Price data shows a pretty good linear correlation with one real outlier for June. There's undoubtedly a fixed cost and other billing details than simply the use factor alone that's not given. -- |
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How many therms (natural gas) do you use per day (per month)?
On 9/28/2019 2:09 AM, dpb wrote:
On 9/27/2019 8:58 PM, catalpa wrote: "Yo" m wrote in message oupdirect.com... replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Yo wrote: Date Month Total Bill Therms 9/20/2019 September $17.99 9.5 8/20/2019 August $14.72 6.2 7/22/2019 July $16.11 7.6 6/19/2019 June $7.54 11.0 5/20/2019 May $26.87 18.5 4/19/2019 April $68.39 54.9 3/21/2019 March $73.74 77.1 2/20/2019 February $63.42 64.7 1/23/2019 January $74.28 57.8 12/19/2018 December $54.60 40.4 11/16/2018 November $29.79 21.5 10/19/2018 October $20.70 12.1 9/19/2018 September $16.19 7.6 8/20/2018 August $13.98 5.4 Your numbers make no sense. 57.8 costs $74.28 and 77.1 costs $73.74 64.7 costs $63.42 and 54.9 costs $68.39 I didn't compute nor look up to compare, but NG prices can vary pretty radically. My guess it was a typo. In some places winter prices are higher than summer prices, especially for industrial rates. At one place I worked we had a special rate but the gas company could kick us off when demand was high. They gave us four hours notice and we'd switch to oil. |
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