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No problem ... unusual, but nothing in the NEC says not to do it.


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How else do you plug your dust buster in

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The way the wiring was in the closet, I put a spacer box under the
switch and ran wiremold down to a double outlet box. I wanted to put
the shredder and two printer, wireless print spooler in the closet out
of the way and avoid some cable tangles. Works great!
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Just store the network components outside the closet.

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Not usual practice, but can't see why this can not be done especially
in a walk-in closet. Should think about safety, heat buildup and
flammables when plugging in an appliance.
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I have had them put in closets. See past tense HAD. They didn't come in
closets. And then I had them put in closets before they were built as in
remodel. They are very useful for charging vacuums, etc. As in any
confined space, you should exercise care. Things left to charge too long
are not a good idea.

You can NOT have too many electrical outlets, I don't care where you are. I
just finished a casita, and had them put on the inside wall of the outside
buttresses so that I would have a place to plug in Christmas lights. And a
little heater for when we go up on the roof to watch the meteor showers,
etc. I also had a four plug put on EVERY outside wall at a corner for such
things as timers, water features, low voltage transformers, weed eaters,
whatever.

AND even had one 220 plug put outside.

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Is it a bad idea (code or practical) to have an electrical outlet inside
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No problem ... unusual, but nothing in the NEC says not to do it.

In a humid climate, all of our apartment bedroom closets had receptacles,
which were used for heaters to prevent the buildup of mold and mildew.


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I have had them put in closets. See past tense HAD. They didn't come
in closets. And then I had them put in closets before they were built
as in remodel. They are very useful for charging vacuums, etc. As in
any confined space, you should exercise care. Things left to charge
too long are not a good idea.

You can NOT have too many electrical outlets, I don't care where you
are. I just finished a casita, and had them put on the inside wall of
the outside buttresses so that I would have a place to plug in
Christmas lights. And a little heater for when we go up on the roof
to watch the meteor showers, etc. I also had a four plug put on EVERY
outside wall at a corner for such things as timers, water features,
low voltage transformers, weed eaters, whatever.

AND even had one 220 plug put outside.

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With all those outlets, how close are your neighbors? Do they have
unusual number of extension cords outside?

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Assuning its installed just the same as in a wall in a oom, no NEC
issues at all.
Just install in accord with applicable Code.


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I have had them put in closets. �See past tense HAD. �They didn't come
in closets. �And then I had them put in closets before they were built
as in remodel. �They are very useful for charging vacuums, etc. �As in
any confined space, you should exercise care. �Things left to charge
too long are not a good idea.


You can NOT have too many electrical outlets, I don't care where you
are. �I just finished a casita, and had them put on the inside wall of
the outside buttresses so that I would have a place to plug in
Christmas lights. �And a little heater for when we go up on the roof
to watch the meteor showers, etc. �I also had a four plug put on EVERY
outside wall at a corner for such things as timers, water features,
low voltage transformers, weed eaters, whatever.


AND even had one 220 plug put outside.


Steve


With all those outlets, how close are your neighbors? Do they have
unusual number of extension cords outside?

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many years ago I installed a nice outside outlet but found my neighbor
used it more than I did so I installed a master off switch for all
my outside outlets.

neighbor had nerve came over and asked family member to turn them on,
family said i wasnt home and they didnt know how, although the switch
was right by the door they were standing at.

it wasnt the cost of electric it was the principal of the thing
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OH, now there's a good idea. A space heater in a closet full of clothes.

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No problem ... unusual, but nothing in the NEC says not to do it.

In a humid climate, all of our apartment bedroom closets had receptacles,
which were used for heaters to prevent the buildup of mold and mildew.



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I have had them put in closets. �See past tense HAD. �Th

ey didn't come
in closets. �And then I had them put in closets before they were

built
as in remodel. �They are very useful for charging vacuums, etc.

�As in
any confined space, you should exercise care. �Things left to ch

arge
too long are not a good idea.


You can NOT have too many electrical outlets, I don't care where
you are. �I just finished a casita, and had them put on the
inside w

all of
the outside buttresses so that I would have a place to plug in
Christmas lights. �And a little heater for when we go up on the

roof
to watch the meteor showers, etc. �I also had a four plug put on

EVERY
outside wall at a corner for such things as timers, water features,
low voltage transformers, weed eaters, whatever.


AND even had one 220 plug put outside.


Steve


With all those outlets, how close are your neighbors? Do they have
unusual number of extension cords outside?

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many years ago I installed a nice outside outlet but found my neighbor
used it more than I did so I installed a master off switch for all
my outside outlets.

neighbor had nerve came over and asked family member to turn them on,
family said i wasnt home and they didnt know how, although the switch
was right by the door they were standing at.

it wasnt the cost of electric it was the principal of the thing


Should have wired it for 120 & 220 with a transfer switch on the regular
duplex. When he plugged something expensive into it, hit the "turbo
boost" :-)

Lotta work to do but it would be worth it to some (like me).

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Not a space heater, just a little heat strip. Many people just use a 100W
light bulb.

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The way the wiring was in the closet, I put a spacer box under the
switch and ran wiremold down to a double outlet box. I wanted to put
the shredder and two printer, wireless print spooler in the closet out
of the way and avoid some cable tangles. Works great!


I didn't install an outlet, but I did just about the same thing for
the pull chain ceiling light - added a spacer between the fixture and
the ceiling and ran wiremold to a surface mounted switch box.
Eliminated the pull string that hung down in front of my face every
time I opened the door.


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some of us use a clothes dryer and a furnace in the house.


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Thanks all - It's the end of a run of wiring and I had run the wiring
ending in an alcove in a far corner - intending to create a TV/Stereo area
with some built ins. I ended up pushing back the alcove and closing it off
with a door for some much needed storage.

I may put some network equipment in there, but only if I can keep it
relatively cool.

I pushed back into a furnace/laundry room and there was an overhead light
conveniently located there for the closet now so that's why I asked about
the outlet - and no, I will not be storing blasting caps and oily rags
there! (they go next to the furnace, of course!)

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Tropics -- no furnace and no central air, not needed in that climate --

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some of us use a clothes dryer and a furnace in the house.


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The way the wiring was in the closet, I put a spacer box under the
switch and ran wiremold down to a double outlet box. I wanted to put
the shredder and two printer, wireless print spooler in the closet out
of the way and avoid some cable tangles. Works great!


I didn't install an outlet, but I did just about the same thing for
the pull chain ceiling light - added a spacer between the fixture and
the ceiling and ran wiremold to a surface mounted switch box.
Eliminated the pull string that hung down in front of my face every
time I opened the door.

They make an extension ceiling box for that purpose. V5737


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Hell if that's the case, probably don't need a closet, because you don't
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that's not what the op said....

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There ya go..ASS ume

Perhaps its for a computer & desk

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There ya go..ASS ume

Perhaps its for a computer & desk

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No, the op, me, didn't say anything at all about a heater OR a desk...

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No, but we knew what you meant. We're good that way.



No, *you* didn't get anything right or wrong. You're just trying to
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No, but we knew what you meant. We're good that way.


No, *you* didn't get anything right or wrong. You're just trying to
include yourself in a make believe group of helpful posters. Had you
replied to the thread with advice, opinions, or fact - "we" might take you
seriously.

a


I hope I am doing this correct I have a converted closet Not a walk-in
just one with the bi-fold doors it has been converted to a home
office,my question is basically the same except I want an electrician
to do it and DO NOT want to go against code.any professionals out
there have a problem with putting in about 4-5 outlets to be primary
source for computer,monitor,printer lights etc....
Thanks
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HeyBub wrote:

a wrote:

No, the op, me, didn't say anything at all about a heater OR a desk...


a


No, but we knew what you meant. We're good that way.


No, *you* didn't get anything right or wrong. You're just trying to
include yourself in a make believe group of helpful posters. Had you
replied to the thread with advice, opinions, or fact - "we" might take you
seriously.

a



I hope I am doing this correct I have a converted closet Not a walk-in
just one with the bi-fold doors it has been converted to a home
office,my question is basically the same except I want an electrician
to do it and DO NOT want to go against code.any professionals out
there have a problem with putting in about 4-5 outlets to be primary
source for computer,monitor,printer lights etc....
Thanks
Irish


All equipment connected to a computer (by USB, serial port, printer
port, whatever) should be plugged into the same circuit. This is one
case where a power strip really is the best solution as it ensures that
this is the case. If you use a UPS, plug *everything* into it - if it's
a good one, it should have several outlets on it that are conditioned
but not backed up (unless it is a "true online" type, which you probably
don't have in your home.)

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Irish wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:32 pm, a wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

a wrote:

No, the op, me, didn't say anything at all about a heater OR a desk...

a

No, but we knew what you meant. We're good that way.

No, *you* didn't get anything right or wrong. You're just trying to
include yourself in a make believe group of helpful posters. Had you
replied to the thread with advice, opinions, or fact - "we" might take you
seriously.

a



I hope I am doing this correct I have a converted closet Not a walk-in
just one with the bi-fold doors it has been converted to a home
office,my question is basically the same except I want an electrician
to do it and DO NOT want to go against code.any professionals out
there have a problem with putting in about 4-5 outlets to be primary
source for computer,monitor,printer lights etc....
Thanks
Irish


All equipment connected to a computer (by USB, serial port, printer
port, whatever) should be plugged into the same circuit. This is one


What happens if you don't do this?

case where a power strip really is the best solution as it ensures that
this is the case. If you use a UPS, plug *everything* into it - if it's


What happens if you don't do this? Seriously. I need to know.

a good one, it should have several outlets on it that are conditioned
but not backed up (unless it is a "true online" type, which you probably
don't have in your home.)

nate


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How else do you plug your dust buster in


I thought they ran on batteries.

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On Feb 7, 7:20 pm, professorpaul wrote:

The way the wiring was in the closet, I put a spacer box under the
switch and ran wiremold down to a double outlet box. I wanted to put
the shredder and two printer, wireless print spooler in the closet out
of the way and avoid some cable tangles. Works great!


I didn't install an outlet, but I did just about the same thing for
the pull chain ceiling light - added a spacer between the fixture and
the ceiling and ran wiremold to a surface mounted switch box.
Eliminated the pull string that hung down in front of my face every
time I opened the door.

They make an extension ceiling box for that purpose. V5737


They make an extension ceiling box for that purpose

Maybe we're talking about the same thing. I used an octagon box, about
1.5" deep, open top and bottom, with punch-outs for romex connectors
on the side. Screwed it to the existing ceiling box (which is embeded
in plaster) then screwed a basic $3 ceiling light fixture to it.
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On Feb 7, 7:20 pm, professorpaul wrote:

The way the wiring was in the closet, I put a spacer box under the
switch and ran wiremold down to a double outlet box. I wanted to put
the shredder and two printer, wireless print spooler in the closet out
of the way and avoid some cable tangles. Works great!


I didn't install an outlet, but I did just about the same thing for
the pull chain ceiling light - added a spacer between the fixture and
the ceiling and ran wiremold to a surface mounted switch box.
Eliminated the pull string that hung down in front of my face every
time I opened the door.

They make an extension ceiling box for that purpose. V5737


They make an extension ceiling box for that purpose

Here's what I used...

http://www.doityourself.com/invt/u185439


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On Feb 10, 6:32 pm, a wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
a wrote:
No, the op, me, didn't say anything at all about a heater OR a desk...


a


No, but we knew what you meant. We're good that way.


No, *you* didn't get anything right or wrong. You're just trying to
include yourself in a make believe group of helpful posters. Had you
replied to the thread with advice, opinions, or fact - "we" might take you
seriously.

a


I hope I am doing this correct I have a converted closet Not a walk-in
just one with the bi-fold doors it has been converted to a home
office,my question is basically the same except I want an electrician
to do it and DO NOT want to go against code.any professionals out
there have a problem with putting in about 4-5 outlets to be primary
source for computer,monitor,printer lights etc....
Thanks
Irish



I don't see anything wrong in doing this. Electrical code varies with
location, but I'm sure you're concerned about safety. Putting a lot
of electrical equipment into a cabinet or closet may generate excess
heat, and that is often overlooked by homeowners. Heat is one of the
three items needed for starting a fire, and heat is also the number
one enemy of computers.
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Irish wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:32 pm, a wrote:


HeyBub wrote:


a wrote:


No, the op, me, didn't say anything at all about a heater OR a desk....


a


No, but we knew what you meant. We're good that way.


No, *you* didn't get anything right or wrong. *You're just trying to
include yourself in a make believe group of helpful posters. *Had you
replied to the thread with advice, opinions, or fact - "we" might take you
seriously.


a


I hope I am doing this correct I have a converted closet Not a walk-in
just one with the bi-fold doors it has been converted to a home
office,my question is basically the same except I want an electrician
to do it and DO NOT want to go against code.any professionals out
there have a problem with putting in about 4-5 outlets to be primary
source for computer,monitor,printer lights etc....
Thanks
Irish


All equipment connected to a computer (by USB, serial port, printer
port, whatever) should be plugged into the same circuit. *This is one


What happens if you don't do this?

case where a power strip really is the best solution as it ensures that
this is the case. *If you use a UPS, plug *everything* into it - if it's


What happens if you don't do this? *Seriously. I need to know. *


here's a thread with my personal experiences...

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.h...05a71ef0 f2a4

nothing done blowed up, but it certainly couldn't have been good for
the USB port.

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Is it a bad idea (code or practical) to have an electrical outlet inside a
storage closet?


How else do you plug your dust buster in


I thought they ran on batteries.


The outlet would be for the charger. Instead of your dust buster being
plugged in when you're using it, it's plugged in when you're NOT using
it.


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Tropics -- no furnace and no central air, not needed in that climate --


Hell if that's the case, probably don't need a closet, because you don't
need clothes.


I don't need a closet for the dozen pairs of shorts and golf shirts I
wear but I still have a wife. That is why we need a closet. She has
more storage space for shoes than my whole wardrobe.


When it comes to wives, there is no such thing as _enough_ closets.
We bought a small house (retirement) with only a couple small
closets. It now has 9 closets, 4 of which have double doors. No room
to put anythign into them anymore.

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I hope I am doing this correct I have a converted closet Not a walk-in
just one with the bi-fold doors it has been converted to a home
office,my question is basically the same except I want an electrician
to do it and DO NOT want to go against code.any professionals out
there have a problem with putting in about 4-5 outlets to be primary
source for computer,monitor,printer lights etc....
Thanks
Irish


If you are going the professional route, I seriously suggest that you
have the
pro run two separate 20 amp 12 ga circuits into the office area.

One to power the machines, one for serious lighting.

Some will think this overkill, but in the last 20 years I have only seen
power draw from computers, scanners, printers, wall warts for modems,
monitors, shredders, wall warts for phones, laptop wall warts/ chargers,
TVs, VCRs / CD players, etc etc etc grow and grow and grow.

Pulling two cables at one time now is a lot easier and cheaper in the
long run

You might want to look io GFCI breakers for new ircuits, and also look
at surge protector breakers or whole house surge protection and use
"strip" type surge proctectors IN ADDITION.
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