In article , CJT wrote:
Shawn Hirn wrote:

In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:

On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote:

John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...

This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.

Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next
president.

... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have
wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just
to get things back close to normal.

I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current
presidential election is going to win the job by honestly promising to fix
what is now broken. I see winning the job by either promising to keep
most broken things broken or by being expected to break promises to fix
what is broken.

I sorely wish that American voters would change this state!

- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein wrote:
In article , CJT wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:


In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:


On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote:


John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...

This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.

Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next
president.

... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have
wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just
to get things back close to normal.


I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current
presidential election is going to win the job by honestly promising to fix
what is now broken. I see winning the job by either promising to keep
most broken things broken or by being expected to break promises to fix
what is broken.

I sorely wish that American voters would change this state!

- Don Klipstein )

A good start would be admitting that there's more wrong than a couple
minor issues and that there is stuff that's broken that needs fixed...

It's like there's this 400 lb. gorilla in the room and both parties are
ignoring it... debt, war, recession, etc. etc. etc...

nate

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Nate Nagel wrote
Don Klipstein wrote
CJT wrote
Shawn Hirn wrote
Doobie Keebler wrote
wrote

John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...

This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.

Thats arguable. Not too many care about the US troops still in Germany and Japan etc.

Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/ Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es
off a lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the
religious wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will
either sit out this election or vote third party. I know know who
will win the Democratic nomination, but whomever it turns out to
be will surely be our next president.

... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have
wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just
to get things back close to normal.

I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current presidential election is going to win the job by
honestly promising to fix what is now broken.

Because most dont agree on what is allegedly 'broken'

And very few candidates care about what YOU personally claim is 'broken'

I see winning the job by either promising to keep most broken things broken or by being expected to break promises to
fix what is broken.

More fool you.

I sorely wish that American voters would change this state!

Taint gunna happen.

A good start would be admitting that there's more wrong than a couple
minor issues and that there is stuff that's broken that needs fixed...

But again, there will never be general agreement on what is 'broken'

It's like there's this 400 lb. gorilla in the room and both parties are ignoring it... debt, war, recession, etc.
etc. etc...

No they arent ignoring it. They realise that the fed has avoided full depression
for getting on for 70 years now fine and that it will do this time too.

And they are both in agreement about how best to minimise a recession too.

No one cares much about the debt except a few rabid loons.

No one can think of any effective way of ending the fiasco in Iraq,
and it looks like the current approach is becoming relatively effective.

Rod Speed wrote:

snip
No one cares much about the debt except a few rabid loons.

snip

.... just like everybody was happy with the subprime market except "a few
rabid loons."

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In article , CJT
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:

snip
No one cares much about the debt except a few rabid loons.

snip

... just like everybody was happy with the subprime market except "a few
rabid loons."

At the time. Yeah. Congress and the White House and the Fed were all
touting subprime as a way to get more people into houses and help people
who might not otherwise acheive the American Dream. Of course the rabid
loons were eventually proved right (just like the naysayers of the Tech
Bubble, the GoGo 60s, and probably the Tulip Bubble in 1593.
I knew we were going to have trouble when the Rocket Scientists
started telling us that The Subprime Was Different from all the other
bubbles. Generally that is when you start heading for the doors (g).

Kurt Ullman wrote
CJT wrote
Rod Speed wrote

No one cares much about the debt except a few rabid loons.

... just like everybody was happy with the subprime market except "a few rabid loons."

Wrong, as always.

The only downside of the national debt is that a lot of taxes are ****ed
against the wall on the interest paid on it. It wont implode, you watch.

At the time. Yeah. Congress and the White House and the Fed were
all touting subprime as a way to get more people into houses and
help people who might not otherwise acheive the American Dream.

None of them were doing that.

Of course the rabid loons were eventually proved right (just like the naysayers
of the Tech Bubble, the GoGo 60s, and probably the Tulip Bubble in 1593.

And they wont be about the national debt, you watch.

I knew we were going to have trouble when the Rocket Scientists started
telling us that The Subprime Was Different from all the other bubbles.

They didnt do that either.

Generally that is when you start heading for the doors (g).

No point in doing that about the national debt.

Kurt Ullman wrote:
... just like everybody was happy with the subprime market except "a
few rabid loons."

At the time. Yeah. Congress and the White House and the Fed were all
touting subprime as a way to get more people into houses and help
people who might not otherwise acheive the American Dream. Of course
the rabid loons were eventually proved right (just like the naysayers
of the Tech Bubble, the GoGo 60s, and probably the Tulip Bubble in
1593. I knew we were going to have trouble when the Rocket Scientists
started telling us that The Subprime Was Different from all the other
bubbles. Generally that is when you start heading for the doors (g).

Worse. Federal morgatage and banking regulations actually REQUIRED lenders
to provide a certain percentage of loans to minority, ethnic, disadvantaged,
etc. groups. Members of these groups could not possibly afford current
rates, even if risk factors were ignored.

Banks are even required to have branch offices in neighborhoods where the
only foot traffic consists of hookers and bank robbers.

In article ,
Nate Nagel wrote:

Don Klipstein wrote:
In article , CJT wrote:

Shawn Hirn wrote:


In article
,
Doobie Keebler wrote:


On Jan 31, 2:44 pm, " wrote:


John McCain .. wants to remain in iraq for 20 years...

This is why McCain is not electable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM&NR=1

"100 Years In Iraq" is not a good campaign slogan for 2008.
Nobody wants their grandkids to still be fighting this war.

Rudy's toast, Huckabee is a religious nut, Mitt is a douchebag,
so that leaves St. John of McCain and his Holy War.

There are no good choices on the GOP ticket: get ready for Hillary/
Obama

I agree. McCain will get the Republican nomination, but he ****es off a
lot of conservatives, and he won't be able to rely on the religious
wing-nut base, which means a lot of Republicans will either sit out this
election or vote third party. I know know who will win the Democratic
nomination, but whomever it turns out to be will surely be our next
president.

... and a very good thing that will be, too. Bush and his clan have
wrought enough destruction it'll take two terms of a Democrat just
to get things back close to normal.


I doubt anyone who is now or ever was a front-runner for the current
presidential election is going to win the job by honestly promising to fix
what is now broken. I see winning the job by either promising to keep
most broken things broken or by being expected to break promises to fix
what is broken.

I sorely wish that American voters would change this state!

- Don Klipstein )

A good start would be admitting that there's more wrong than a couple
minor issues and that there is stuff that's broken that needs fixed...

It's like there's this 400 lb. gorilla in the room and both parties are
ignoring it... debt, war, recession, etc. etc. etc...

nate

Well, who you gonna believe, your president or your own lyin' eyes?
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Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Medic! He's babbling again.
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
Billy wrote just what you'd expect
from a desperately cowering gutless ****wit ******.

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
Billy wrote just what you'd expect
from a desperately cowering gutless ****wit ******.

Des that pig know where your mouth has been?
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

Some gutless ****wit desperately cowering behind the entirely appropriate
Billy wrote just what you'd expect
from a desperately cowering gutless ****wit ******.