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can i use diesel fuel in a home fuel oil furnace? if so wich diesel
can i use?
Yes, or K-1 (kerosene).

I know. You aren't on automatic delivery and if you run out, what do you
do?
Keep a couple of 5 gallon cans around...
Yes, essentially the only differences between the #2 heating oil in your
tank and the #2 diesel at the pump are the transportation fuel taxes you
pay at the pump and the red dye they put in the non taxed heating oil.
Otherwise they are interchangeable functionally, and the heating oil is
also known as "off road diesel" since it's legal to use in off road
equipment.

It is a little more complicated than that. Diesel fuel typically is sold
as "diesel fuel" not a particular # oil. If the diesel fuel is sold in a
freezing climate a certain percentage of #1 is mixed in to minimize fuel
gelling effects.


People who have outdoor fuel oil tanks have the same jelling problems as
vehicles, I would assume that winter heating oil in cold climates is
"adjusted" similarly to vehicle fuel.
In this area #1 heating oil is thin, probably mostly kerosene and used in
"heaters" that don't pump the oil into the combustion chamber, #2 heating
oil is thicker and used in fuel oil burners. Diesel oil is rated as #2
diesel for use in engines and #1 version of diesel oil is jet fuel grade.


I think you may be mixing a few terms. "Diesel oil" is a product that
varies according to climate and isn't a specific oil # grade. #1 is
kerosene by definition. Jet fuel isn't diesel. In the case of commonly
used Jet A it is a very clear higher purity version of kerosene.
Antimicrobial and other agents are typically added during fueling.

At least around here they don't miz oils used for heating purposes. If
someone has an outside tank they will deliver #1 unless you specifically
tell them otherwise. If you have an underground or inside tank they will
deliver #2 unless you tell them otherwise. There are also other heavier
grades of fuel oil that are commonly used but they aren't used to heat
homes.

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Pete C. wrote:
"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote:
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can i use diesel fuel in a home fuel oil furnace? if so wich diesel
can i use?
Yes, or K-1 (kerosene).

I know. You aren't on automatic delivery and if you run out, what do you do?
Keep a couple of 5 gallon cans around...


Yes, essentially the only differences between the #2 heating oil in your
tank and the #2 diesel at the pump are the transportation fuel taxes you
pay at the pump and the red dye they put in the non taxed heating oil.
Otherwise they are interchangeable functionally, and the heating oil is
also known as "off road diesel" since it's legal to use in off road
equipment.


It is a little more complicated than that. Diesel fuel typically is sold
as "diesel fuel" not a particular # oil. If the diesel fuel is sold in a
freezing climate a certain percentage of #1 is mixed in to minimize fuel
gelling effects.


The same applies to heating oil sold in the same climate since some
folks have outdoor above ground oil tanks just as vulnerable to gelling
as a vehicle.
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heating oil IS #1 diesel.

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"S. Barker" wrote:
heating oil IS #1 diesel.


Not necessarily. Sometimes it's #2 diesel. Sometimes
it's a mix of the two. And sometimes it's #2 with
additives to keep it from getting thick a colder temps.

(One effect of the above is that if you buy heating oil
in bulk it is *essential* to make sure the supplier is
aware that fuel bought in the summer will be stored and
used in the winter. Otherwise it is possible to get a
great deal on "summer grade" stove oil, and have a tank
full of jelly come cold weather.)

Moreover, Both #1 and #2 "diesel" are regionally
defined, with each refinery deciding exactly what they
will sell under those names.

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)


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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote:

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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:54:48 -0900,
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Davidson) wrote:

(One effect of the above is that if you buy heating oil
in bulk it is *essential* to make sure the supplier is
aware that fuel bought in the summer will be stored and
used in the winter. Otherwise it is possible to get a
great deal on "summer grade" stove oil, and have a tank
full of jelly come cold weather.)


While this makes sense, why would anyone use heating oil in the
summer? Anyone working for an oil supplier company, should know it's
for winter use........ Otherwise they need to get another job, or
apply for mental health care.....


I'm sure you meant that kindly, but it *is* hilariously
ignorant!

Summers in some places continue to require heat on many,
though probably not all, days. Plus, if you order a 3
month supply of stove oil in a place like Fairbanks
Alaska, it might be 95F on the day you order it in
August, but it might be -45F on the day in November when
the next order is delivered.

On the other hand, in many locations around Alaska the
order is place before the end of July, arrives in August
or September... and is a 1 year supply.


Some folks also like to have hot water as well, and if they heat the
house with oil they usually also heat the hot water with oil.
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heating oil IS #1 diesel.

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can i use diesel fuel in a home fuel oil furnace? if so wich diesel
can i use?




No
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heating oil IS #1 diesel.

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Not here in CT. It is #2


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