In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

CarlSwanson wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote

Politics being what it is and where the decision will be
taken, No One will ever back off from spending what they
want on things they support.

In reality what particular individuals may or may ns

snip

Doesn't it make you feel secure to know that China holds $450
billion in American issued bonds? Japan is tops though with $700
billion. What happens when they want to cash out? We've already sold
that option but the military-industrial complex has the money and
the taxpayers have the debt. What would the World Bank do in a
situation like this?

yup..actually Martin Feldstein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Feldstein

said on Charlie Rose last week... that China has control
of $1.2 Trillion USA dollars, but he is not worried.

$1.2 T is a big number.

It was interesting to watch GWB successfully bail out USA
steel producers with protection tarrifs (resulting in a HUGE
winfall to USA scrap dealers by the way) ...but ...no
protection or enforced treaties to protect USA middle class

It doesnt need protecting. Its doing fine.

or the environment.

Thats a lie.

There is groundswell out there among economists not fed
by corporations, to highlight how smart tariffs are effective.

That line has been around for centurys now. The world's moved on.

Of course, all you will here about are the failed efforts of
England, by the bought and sold MSM and corporate lackeys.

Bet you cant actually list any 'smart tariffs' that actually work.

It makes no difference. Apparently the wealthy elite with the help
of their Republican bought Congress folks, Senate Folks and
Supreme Court, will continue to destroy this once great nation.

You wouldnt know what a destroyed nation was if one bit you on your lard arse.

Pfui!

Why are you farting in here ?

Or will an Obama take control?

Nope. No Prez ever does.

Will George Soros buy into radio and television and
give us a legacy of viable information versus hate
propaganda via O'Reilly, Fox and Hannity etc?

No need, we have the net thanks.

So many challenges, so few leaders with integrity...........

Its never about 'leaders'

enlightened

Nope, just furiously living in the past.

Jingo-bells, jingo-bells, jingo all the waaaay . . .
No reasoned response but what would you expect from a Bush supporter?
bwahahahaha.
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote

.....people pretend the problems in the government schools
all have to do with the fact that .1% of the population has a
"thing" about creation science (completely ignoring the
fact that evolution is barely touched on in any HS class
outside of AP Biology.

We're quite good at taking properly prepared students and
turning them into Nobel Prize Winners. Underline "properly
prepared." If the children aren't properly prepared, there's
not much that can be done with them.

Bull****, the deficiencys can be fixed with any
brats that will benefit from a university education.

Interesting theory,

Then feel free to do so.

OK. Take an aquarium and pour some white sand into it. Let it
settle. Then take some black sand and pour it into the aquarium
and let it settle. Can you think of anyway that the black sand
will end up on the bottom? Bim-batta-boom, you got evolution.

Real evolution is nothing like that.

Once you know the order in which changes
happen, the geologic record tells the story.

Irrelevant to that silly stuff about the two types of sand.

Go to the Grand Canyon and you can read back 6,000,000 years.
Remember. the layer below came first and then the one above it.
You may wish to look up carbon-14 dating as well but that will
only take you back 40,000 years.

Evolution is called a "theory" because you can't do it in a lab

Wrong.

Would you like to expand on that?

Nothing to 'expand' on, that isnt why its called a theory.

There are plenty of theorys that can be proven in a lab.

Even evolution can, most obviously with pesticide
resistance with insects and antibiotic resistance.

but it is the only explanation this side of booga-booga
that explains what we see in the world.

Don't know a lot about science do you?

We'll see...
Oh, I feel a very long pause coming on.

So your saying adaptation proves evolution?

Nope, that the DNA is clearly what drives what gets produced
and that its completely trivial to see how that sort of selection
done in the lab changes the DNA involved.
This should be good. Citation please.
As long as they (whatever can enter-breed), your talking the same
species. Just because some staphylococcus aureus develop a resistance to
antibiotics, it doesn't mean that they aren't staphylococcus aureus any
more. You did go to school didn't you?

All you can prove is that organisms can adapt to their environment.

Wrong when that can be shown to change the DNA.
Oh, you believe the theories of Dr. Lysenko. Good luck with that one.

Adaptation hasn't been seen to create new species in the lab.

Neither has your geological record.
Again, that is why they call it a THEORY, because it best fits the given
evidence.

We can however see that humans have evolved from the higher apes by comparing
their DNA etc.
You left out the prokaryotes. You are undoubtedly related to them as
well.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ‹ I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee ‹ that says, fool me once, shame on ‹ shame on you. Fool me ‹
you can't get fooled again." Bwahahahaha. What a maroon. Bwahahaha
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote

.....people pretend the problems in the government schools
all have to do with the fact that .1% of the population has a
"thing" about creation science (completely ignoring the
fact that evolution is barely touched on in any HS class
outside of AP Biology.

We're quite good at taking properly prepared students and
turning them into Nobel Prize Winners. Underline "properly
prepared." If the children aren't properly prepared, there's
not much that can be done with them.

Bull****, the deficiencys can be fixed with any
brats that will benefit from a university education.

Interesting theory,

Then feel free to do so.

OK. Take an aquarium and pour some white sand into it. Let it
settle. Then take some black sand and pour it into the aquarium
and let it settle. Can you think of anyway that the black sand
will end up on the bottom? Bim-batta-boom, you got evolution.

Real evolution is nothing like that.

Once you know the order in which changes
happen, the geologic record tells the story.

Irrelevant to that silly stuff about the two types of sand.

Go to the Grand Canyon and you can read back 6,000,000 years.
Remember. the layer below came first and then the one above it.
You may wish to look up carbon-14 dating as well but that will
only take you back 40,000 years.

Evolution is called a "theory" because you can't do it in a lab

Wrong.

Would you like to expand on that?

Nothing to 'expand' on, that isnt why its called a theory.

There are plenty of theorys that can be proven in a lab.

Even evolution can, most obviously with pesticide
resistance with insects and antibiotic resistance.

but it is the only explanation this side of booga-booga
that explains what we see in the world.

Don't know a lot about science do you?

We'll see...
Oh, I feel a very long pause coming on.

So your saying adaptation proves evolution?

Nope, that the DNA is clearly what drives what gets produced
and that its completely trivial to see how that sort of selection
done in the lab changes the DNA involved.
This should be good. Citation please.
As long as they (whatever can enter-breed), your talking the same
species. Just because some staphylococcus aureus develop a resistance to
antibiotics, it doesn't mean that they aren't staphylococcus aureus any
more. You did go to school didn't you?

All you can prove is that organisms can adapt to their environment.

Wrong when that can be shown to change the DNA.
Oh, you believe the theories of Dr. Lysenko. Good luck with that one.

Adaptation hasn't been seen to create new species in the lab.

Neither has your geological record.
Again, that is why they call it a THEORY, because it best fits the given
evidence.

We can however see that humans have evolved from the higher apes by comparing
their DNA etc.
You left out the prokaryotes. You are undoubtedly related to them as
well.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ‹ I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee ‹ that says, fool me once, shame on ‹ shame on you. Fool me ‹
you can't get fooled again." Bwahahahaha. What a maroon. Bwahahaha
--

Billy

Bush, Cheney & Pelosi, Behind Bars
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/site/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote

.....people pretend the problems in the government
schools all have to do with the fact that .1% of the
population has a "thing" about creation science
(completely ignoring the fact that evolution is barely
touched on in any HS class outside of AP Biology.

We're quite good at taking properly prepared students
and turning them into Nobel Prize Winners. Underline
"properly prepared." If the children aren't properly
prepared, there's not much that can be done with them.

Bull****, the deficiencys can be fixed with any
brats that will benefit from a university education.

Interesting theory,

Then feel free to do so.

OK. Take an aquarium and pour some white sand into it. Let it
settle. Then take some black sand and pour it into the aquarium
and let it settle. Can you think of anyway that the black sand
will end up on the bottom? Bim-batta-boom, you got evolution.

Real evolution is nothing like that.

Once you know the order in which changes
happen, the geologic record tells the story.

Irrelevant to that silly stuff about the two types of sand.

Go to the Grand Canyon and you can read back 6,000,000
years. Remember. the layer below came first and then the
one above it. You may wish to look up carbon-14 dating as
well but that will only take you back 40,000 years.

Evolution is called a "theory" because you can't do it in a lab

Wrong.

Would you like to expand on that?

Nothing to 'expand' on, that isnt why its called a theory.

There are plenty of theorys that can be proven in a lab.

Even evolution can, most obviously with pesticide
resistance with insects and antibiotic resistance.

but it is the only explanation this side of booga-booga
that explains what we see in the world.

Don't know a lot about science do you?

We'll see...

Oh, I feel a very long pause coming on.

Your problem.

So your saying adaptation proves evolution?

Nope, that the DNA is clearly what drives what gets produced
and that its completely trivial to see how that sort of selection
done in the lab changes the DNA involved.

This should be good.

Or pathetic in your case.

Citation please.

And decent text on antibiotic resistence.

As long as they (whatever can enter-breed), your talking the same species.

Pity that we can see that say gorillas and humans have virtually the
same DNA, so they must have evolved from a common ancestor.

Just because some staphylococcus aureus develop a resistance to antibiotics,
it doesn't mean that they aren't staphylococcus aureus any more.

But it does mean that you can see that the DNA of
the resistant strains is different to the ones which arent.

You did go to school didn't you?

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

All you can prove is that organisms can adapt to their environment.

Wrong when that can be shown to change the DNA.

Oh, you believe the theories of Dr. Lysenko.

Nope.

Good luck with that one.

Pathetic.

Adaptation hasn't been seen to create new species in the lab.

Neither has your geological record.

Again, that is why they call it a THEORY, because it best fits the given evidence.

Just as true of plenty of laws.

We can however see that humans have evolved from the higher apes by comparing their DNA etc.

You left out the prokaryotes. You are undoubtedly related to them as well.

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ‹ I know it's in Texas, probably
in Tennessee ‹ that says, fool me once, shame on ‹ shame on you. Fool
me ‹ you can't get fooled again." Bwahahahaha. What a maroon. Bwahahaha

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Billy wrote

.....people pretend the problems in the government
schools all have to do with the fact that .1% of the
population has a "thing" about creation science
(completely ignoring the fact that evolution is barely
touched on in any HS class outside of AP Biology.

We're quite good at taking properly prepared students
and turning them into Nobel Prize Winners. Underline
"properly prepared." If the children aren't properly
prepared, there's not much that can be done with them.

Bull****, the deficiencys can be fixed with any
brats that will benefit from a university education.

Interesting theory,

Then feel free to do so.

OK. Take an aquarium and pour some white sand into it. Let it
settle. Then take some black sand and pour it into the aquarium
and let it settle. Can you think of anyway that the black sand
will end up on the bottom? Bim-batta-boom, you got evolution.

Real evolution is nothing like that.

Once you know the order in which changes
happen, the geologic record tells the story.

Irrelevant to that silly stuff about the two types of sand.

Go to the Grand Canyon and you can read back 6,000,000
years. Remember. the layer below came first and then the
one above it. You may wish to look up carbon-14 dating as
well but that will only take you back 40,000 years.

Evolution is called a "theory" because you can't do it in a lab

Wrong.

Would you like to expand on that?

Nothing to 'expand' on, that isnt why its called a theory.

There are plenty of theorys that can be proven in a lab.

Even evolution can, most obviously with pesticide
resistance with insects and antibiotic resistance.

but it is the only explanation this side of booga-booga
that explains what we see in the world.

Don't know a lot about science do you?

We'll see...

Oh, I feel a very long pause coming on.

Your problem.

So your saying adaptation proves evolution?

Nope, that the DNA is clearly what drives what gets produced
and that its completely trivial to see how that sort of selection
done in the lab changes the DNA involved.

This should be good.

Or pathetic in your case.

Citation please.

And decent text on antibiotic resistence.

As long as they (whatever can enter-breed), your talking the same species.

Pity that we can see that say gorillas and humans have virtually the
same DNA, so they must have evolved from a common ancestor.

Just because some staphylococcus aureus develop a resistance to antibiotics,
it doesn't mean that they aren't staphylococcus aureus any more.

But it does mean that you can see that the DNA of
the resistant strains is different to the ones which arent.

You did go to school didn't you?

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

All you can prove is that organisms can adapt to their environment.

Wrong when that can be shown to change the DNA.

Oh, you believe the theories of Dr. Lysenko.

Nope.

Good luck with that one.

Pathetic.

Adaptation hasn't been seen to create new species in the lab.

Neither has your geological record.

Again, that is why they call it a THEORY, because it best fits the given evidence.

Just as true of plenty of laws.

We can however see that humans have evolved from the higher apes by comparing their DNA etc.

You left out the prokaryotes. You are undoubtedly related to them as well.

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ‹ I know it's in Texas, probably
in Tennessee ‹ that says, fool me once, shame on ‹ shame on you. Fool
me ‹ you can't get fooled again." Bwahahahaha. What a maroon. Bwahahaha

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

Billy wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Dave Bugg wrote
Billy wrote

We've already sold that option but the military-industrial
complex has the money and the taxpayers have the debt.
What would the World Bank do in a situation like this?

Foreclose? Do what they always do and ignore or forgive the debt?
You tell us.

No US debt has ever been forgiven. Nor has any been owed to the World Bank.

The situation has never existed before

Wrong, as always.

but now that Bush has turned us into a "banana republic" it may.

Nope. The world bank gets no say what so ever. You watch.

I would expect the ramifications would either come as a reduction in social
services or sanctions on American trade until debtor nations are satisfied.

Your expectations are completely irrelevant. You clearly dont have a ****ing clue.

"Heck of a good job, Brownie." Bwahahaha:-) Bush beleivers,
what kind of a goofus would you have to be? Bwahahaha

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

Billy wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Dave Bugg wrote
Billy wrote

We've already sold that option but the military-industrial
complex has the money and the taxpayers have the debt.
What would the World Bank do in a situation like this?

Foreclose? Do what they always do and ignore or forgive the debt?
You tell us.

No US debt has ever been forgiven. Nor has any been owed to the World Bank.

The situation has never existed before

Wrong, as always.

but now that Bush has turned us into a "banana republic" it may.

Nope. The world bank gets no say what so ever. You watch.

I would expect the ramifications would either come as a reduction in social
services or sanctions on American trade until debtor nations are satisfied.

Your expectations are completely irrelevant. You clearly dont have a ****ing clue.

"Heck of a good job, Brownie." Bwahahaha:-) Bush beleivers,
what kind of a goofus would you have to be? Bwahahaha

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

CarlSwanson wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote

Politics being what it is and where the decision will be
taken, No One will ever back off from spending what they
want on things they support.

In reality what particular individuals may or may ns

snip

Doesn't it make you feel secure to know that China holds $450
billion in American issued bonds? Japan is tops though with $700
billion. What happens when they want to cash out? We've already
sold that option but the military-industrial complex has the money
and the taxpayers have the debt. What would the World Bank do in a
situation like this?

yup..actually Martin Feldstein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Feldstein

said on Charlie Rose last week... that China has control
of $1.2 Trillion USA dollars, but he is not worried.

$1.2 T is a big number.

It was interesting to watch GWB successfully bail out USA
steel producers with protection tarrifs (resulting in a HUGE
winfall to USA scrap dealers by the way) ...but ...no
protection or enforced treaties to protect USA middle class

It doesnt need protecting. Its doing fine.

or the environment.

Thats a lie.

There is groundswell out there among economists not fed
by corporations, to highlight how smart tariffs are effective.

That line has been around for centurys now. The world's moved on.

Of course, all you will here about are the failed efforts of
England, by the bought and sold MSM and corporate lackeys.

Bet you cant actually list any 'smart tariffs' that actually work.

It makes no difference. Apparently the wealthy elite with the help
of their Republican bought Congress folks, Senate Folks and
Supreme Court, will continue to destroy this once great nation.

You wouldnt know what a destroyed nation was if one bit you on your
lard arse.

Pfui!

Why are you farting in here ?

Or will an Obama take control?

Nope. No Prez ever does.

Will George Soros buy into radio and television and
give us a legacy of viable information versus hate
propaganda via O'Reilly, Fox and Hannity etc?

No need, we have the net thanks.

So many challenges, so few leaders with integrity...........

Its never about 'leaders'

enlightened

Nope, just furiously living in the past.

Jingo-bells, jingo-bells, jingo all the waaaay . . .
No reasoned response but what would you expect from a Bush supporter?
bwahahahaha.

Wouldnt know what a real bush supporter was if it bit it on its lard arse.

Billy wrote:
In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

CarlSwanson wrote
Billy wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Don Homuth dhomuthoneatcomcast.net@ wrote

Politics being what it is and where the decision will be
taken, No One will ever back off from spending what they
want on things they support.

In reality what particular individuals may or may ns

snip

Doesn't it make you feel secure to know that China holds $450
billion in American issued bonds? Japan is tops though with $700
billion. What happens when they want to cash out? We've already
sold that option but the military-industrial complex has the money
and the taxpayers have the debt. What would the World Bank do in a
situation like this?

yup..actually Martin Feldstein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Feldstein

said on Charlie Rose last week... that China has control
of $1.2 Trillion USA dollars, but he is not worried.

$1.2 T is a big number.

It was interesting to watch GWB successfully bail out USA
steel producers with protection tarrifs (resulting in a HUGE
winfall to USA scrap dealers by the way) ...but ...no
protection or enforced treaties to protect USA middle class

It doesnt need protecting. Its doing fine.

or the environment.

Thats a lie.

There is groundswell out there among economists not fed
by corporations, to highlight how smart tariffs are effective.

That line has been around for centurys now. The world's moved on.

Of course, all you will here about are the failed efforts of
England, by the bought and sold MSM and corporate lackeys.

Bet you cant actually list any 'smart tariffs' that actually work.

It makes no difference. Apparently the wealthy elite with the help
of their Republican bought Congress folks, Senate Folks and
Supreme Court, will continue to destroy this once great nation.

You wouldnt know what a destroyed nation was if one bit you on your
lard arse.

Pfui!

Why are you farting in here ?

Or will an Obama take control?

Nope. No Prez ever does.

Will George Soros buy into radio and television and
give us a legacy of viable information versus hate
propaganda via O'Reilly, Fox and Hannity etc?

No need, we have the net thanks.

So many challenges, so few leaders with integrity...........

Its never about 'leaders'

enlightened

Nope, just furiously living in the past.

Jingo-bells, jingo-bells, jingo all the waaaay . . .
No reasoned response but what would you expect from a Bush supporter?
bwahahahaha.

Wouldnt know what a real bush supporter was if it bit it on its lard arse.

In article ,
CarlSwanson wrote:


It makes no difference. Apparently the wealthy elite with the help of
their Republican bought Congress folks, Senate Folks and Supreme
Court, will continue to destroy this once great nation. Pfui! Or
will an Obama take control? Will George Soros buy into radio and
television and give us a legacy of viable information versus hate
propaganda via O'Reilly, Fox and Hannity etc?
\
Would be a nice change from the current standards of NBC, the
daily newsletter for the DNC... er I mean the New York Times, et al. You
misspelled "I want my rich guys to spew venom I agree with".
Of course Soros tried that and Air America has been such an
overwhelming success.

what do john mc cain and gary hart have in common?

both ran for president, and news of inappropiate behavoir
surfaces.........

jennifer flowers?