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[email protected] January 24th 08 07:55 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?

Thanks.

Speedy Jim[_2_] January 24th 08 08:00 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
wrote:

What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?

Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...

Now, promise you won't laugh...

I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! Yes!

Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. Worked like a treat!

YMMV

[email protected] January 24th 08 08:10 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 12:00*pm, Speedy Jim wrote:
wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...

Now, promise you won't laugh...

I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! *Yes!

Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. *Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. *Worked like a treat!

YMMV


Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower? Also when I blew insulation in my attic a few years
ago, we fed the insulation into the machine, which had a hopper. Then
it was "torn up" and then forced into the hose and viloa.

Also, if I remember correctly, the hose diameter on the machine I
rented was a few inches, I hope I can use a much smaller diamter hose.
I don't want to make large holes in the walls.

So I have to go from the bottom and top of the wall?

Joe January 24th 08 08:24 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 2:10*pm, wrote:
On Jan 24, 12:00*pm, Speedy Jim wrote:



wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...


Now, promise you won't laugh...


I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! *Yes!


Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. *Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. *Worked like a treat!


YMMV


Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower?


Good grief, Dude, are you out of duct tape? That will do the job in a
jiffy...the universal adapter.
Cheers,

Joe


ransley January 24th 08 08:25 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 2:10*pm, wrote:
On Jan 24, 12:00*pm, Speedy Jim wrote:





wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...


Now, promise you won't laugh...


I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! *Yes!


Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. *Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. *Worked like a treat!


YMMV


Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower? Also when I blew insulation in my attic a few years
ago, we fed the insulation into the machine, which had a hopper. Then
it was "torn up" and then forced into the hose and viloa.

Also, if I remember correctly, the hose diameter on the machine I
rented was a few inches, I hope I can use a much smaller diamter hose.
I don't want to make large holes in the walls.

So I have to go from the bottom and top of the wall?- Hide quoted text -

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Cellulose in walls may settle 15-20%, there is a Wet process where
Glue is added so it does not settle,

Speedy Jim[_2_] January 24th 08 08:31 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
wrote:

On Jan 24, 12:00 pm, Speedy Jim wrote:


SNIP
Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower? Also when I blew insulation in my attic a few years
ago, we fed the insulation into the machine, which had a hopper. Then
it was "torn up" and then forced into the hose and viloa.

Also, if I remember correctly, the hose diameter on the machine I
rented was a few inches, I hope I can use a much smaller diamter hose.
I don't want to make large holes in the walls.

So I have to go from the bottom and top of the wall?


We bored holes that were only 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" diam.
Adapted a small size hose to fit the blower outlet
using... Duct Tape!

The 2nd hole allows air to escape. Without the 2nd
hole, the fill in the wall will be only partial.

Jim

[email protected] January 24th 08 08:34 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 12:24*pm, Joe wrote:
On Jan 24, 2:10*pm, wrote:





On Jan 24, 12:00*pm, Speedy Jim wrote:


wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...


Now, promise you won't laugh...


I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! *Yes!


Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. *Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. *Worked like a treat!


YMMV


Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower?


Good grief, Dude, are you out of duct tape? That will do the job in a
jiffy...the universal adapter.
Cheers,

Joe- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But how is it "decompressed"? The insulation comes in compressed bags.

[email protected] January 24th 08 08:34 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 12:25*pm, ransley wrote:
On Jan 24, 2:10*pm, wrote:





On Jan 24, 12:00*pm, Speedy Jim wrote:


wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...


Now, promise you won't laugh...


I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! *Yes!


Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. *Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. *Worked like a treat!


YMMV


Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower? Also when I blew insulation in my attic a few years
ago, we fed the insulation into the machine, which had a hopper. Then
it was "torn up" and then forced into the hose and viloa.


Also, if I remember correctly, the hose diameter on the machine I
rented was a few inches, I hope I can use a much smaller diamter hose.
I don't want to make large holes in the walls.


So I have to go from the bottom and top of the wall?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cellulose in walls may settle 15-20%, there is a Wet process where
Glue is added so it does not settle,- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, since this is just for sound deadening purposes some settling I
think will be fine.

Speedy Jim[_2_] January 24th 08 08:47 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
wrote:



But how is it "decompressed"? The insulation comes in compressed bags.


By hand. The outside "operator" grabs a handful from the bag
and squeezes it a bit as he feeds it into the blower.

Red Green January 24th 08 09:11 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
Speedy Jim wrote in news:h76mj.5964$EZ3.342
@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:

wrote:

What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?

Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...

Now, promise you won't laugh...

I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! Yes!

Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. Worked like a treat!

YMMV


LOL!

....oh that's right. You said not to laugh. Was the hose duct taped to the
blower? Sounds like a future Red Green episode.

Speedy Jim[_2_] January 24th 08 09:18 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
Red Green wrote:

Speedy Jim wrote in news:h76mj.5964$EZ3.342
@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com:


wrote:


What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?

Thanks.


If you will be doing it from the inside,
drill a hole top and bottom of each stud space.
You might get away with only 1 hole for each...

Now, promise you won't laugh...

I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! Yes!

Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. Worked like a treat!

YMMV



LOL!

...oh that's right. You said not to laugh. Was the hose duct taped to the
blower? Sounds like a future Red Green episode.



Yes, hose duct taped to blower outlet.

You're right! Perfect episode for Red Green.
On the show though, the hose explodes, sending
cellulose dust everywhere!

Jim

ransley January 24th 08 09:25 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 1:55*pm, wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?

Thanks.


Real sound deadening is done with a "Floating Wall" one not attached
to the existing wall, Cellulose may not do the trick, look for "db'
sound reduction ratings

Oren[_2_] January 24th 08 09:40 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:47:26 -0500, Speedy Jim
wrote:

wrote:



But how is it "decompressed"? The insulation comes in compressed bags.


By hand. The outside "operator" grabs a handful from the bag
and squeezes it a bit as he feeds it into the blower.


I bet with duct tape and cardboard you could even make a larger hopper
for the material...
Oren
--

HeyBub[_2_] January 24th 08 10:01 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
wrote:
What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Don't think that will do much good.

The sound vibrates the outside wall. The outside wall vibrates the studs.
The studs vibrate the inside wall.

If you had an outside wall, no studs, and an inside wall, there wouldn't be
much sound trasmission at all.

Which brings to mind the fix: A free-standing additional wall, not connected
to the existing one.



Oren[_2_] January 24th 08 10:05 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:24:59 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote:

Good grief, Dude, are you out of duct tape? That will do the job in a
jiffy...the universal adapter.
Cheers,

Joe


In the wrong hands duct tape is dangerous. A federal officer went to
jail for taping a spitting felon's mouth shut. He died. Now it's the
law, not to tape their mouth shut.

Oren
--

Robert Allison[_2_] January 24th 08 10:14 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
HeyBub wrote:

wrote:

What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?



Don't think that will do much good.

The sound vibrates the outside wall. The outside wall vibrates the studs.
The studs vibrate the inside wall.

If you had an outside wall, no studs, and an inside wall, there wouldn't be
much sound trasmission at all.

Which brings to mind the fix: A free-standing additional wall, not connected
to the existing one.



Actually, cellulose is the best sound deadener and sound insulation for
wall cavities. It's mass and weight are the reasons, but it does work
to reduce sound transmission through the wall. True sound elimination
would require further steps, but to reduce it, cellulose is the way to go.

We use it in bathroom and utility room walls to help reduce sound
transmission and it works quite well. If you hear it with and without,
you will become a believer.

http://www.houleinsulation.com/sound.html

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Bob F January 24th 08 11:15 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 

wrote in message
...

I had one wall to insulate and couldn't see
renting the machine, so.....we used an electric
leaf blower!! Yes!

Ran the blower outside the house with a hose into
the room. Fed the material right into the blower
intake by hand. Worked like a treat!

YMMV


Humm, interesting. Now I have to ask, how did you attach the hose to
the leaf blower? Also when I blew insulation in my attic a few years
ago, we fed the insulation into the machine, which had a hopper. Then
it was "torn up" and then forced into the hose and viloa.


Also, if I remember correctly, the hose diameter on the machine I
rented was a few inches, I hope I can use a much smaller diamter hose.
I don't want to make large holes in the walls.


So I have to go from the bottom and top of the wall?


Watching my neighbor's house being insulated recently, they drilled holes 1/2
way up and near the top of each stud space. They blew it in the lower hole, then
the upper.

When mine was done years ago, they just blew it in from the top.

In each case, they had a tapered nozzle at the end of the hose to match the hole
size (1" on mine, 1 1/4" on the neighbor's).

Bob F



Red Green January 24th 08 11:48 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
Oren wrote in
:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:47:26 -0500, Speedy Jim
wrote:

wrote:



But how is it "decompressed"? The insulation comes in compressed
bags.


By hand. The outside "operator" grabs a handful from the bag
and squeezes it a bit as he feeds it into the blower.


I bet with duct tape and cardboard you could even make a larger hopper
for the material...
Oren
--


LOF'n L!!

Red Green January 24th 08 11:50 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
Oren wrote in news:qj2ip3tgga2galgqsc1nqf4ipfo2pcogmj@
4ax.com:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:24:59 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote:

Good grief, Dude, are you out of duct tape? That will do the job in a
jiffy...the universal adapter.
Cheers,

Joe


In the wrong hands duct tape is dangerous. A federal officer went to
jail for taping a spitting felon's mouth shut. He died. Now it's the
law, not to tape their mouth shut.


....without immediately ventalating with a .38. Think that's in the
Soprano's FAQ.


Oren
--



[email protected] January 25th 08 05:06 AM

Blow in wall insulation
 
On Jan 24, 2:18*pm, "Joseph Meehan"
wrote:
* * If your only goal is to reduce noise, I would suggest adding a new layer
or two of drywall.

* *Check out *http://www.soundproofing.org/

*In general you want to block air exchange. *Air caries sound very well.
(Try opening your car's window as a train is going by.)

* * Next you want weight. *Heavy things (drywall lead sheets etc.) block
sound well.

* * You also want to prevent any direct solid connections. *Stagger wall
studs or use special isolation devices to keep the sound from traveling
through the wall (remember the two cans on a string (well wire actuarially
worked) you want to break the wire).

* * Filling in wall cavities with sound absorbing materials (acoustical
fiberglass bats) will do a little.

* * Point source control (special absorption material) at the source of the
sound will also help.

wrote in message

...

What is the process to insulate a interior wall with blow in
cellulose? I'd like to insulate an interior wall to deaden the noise
coming through it. I'm not sure if it's worth renting a machine just
to do a wall. Is there another way?


Thanks.


--
Joseph Meehan

*Dia 's Muire duit


Hello everyone and thank you for your suggestions. I do understand
that heavier and denser materials will not transmit as much sound as
say, insulation, however none of the other suggestions would be
workable. In addition, I'm just looking for roughly a 50% reduction in
sound transmission with somewhat ease and cost, I believe I can attain
that with a insulation filler.

I really appreciate the other suggestions though.

HeyBub[_2_] January 25th 08 02:11 PM

Blow in wall insulation
 
wrote:

Hello everyone and thank you for your suggestions. I do understand
that heavier and denser materials will not transmit as much sound as
say, insulation, however none of the other suggestions would be
workable. In addition, I'm just looking for roughly a 50% reduction in
sound transmission with somewhat ease and cost, I believe I can attain
that with a insulation filler.

I really appreciate the other suggestions though.


Earplugs. Fifty cents.




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