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Joe December 17th 07 01:56 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.

JoeSpareBedroom December 17th 07 02:09 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
"Joe" wrote in message
...
are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.



If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for 66.



Joe December 17th 07 04:41 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

...

are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for 66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10 hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.

Kurt Ullman December 17th 07 04:49 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
In article
,
Joe wrote:


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10 hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.


Depends on whether or not you want to include "easy". Obviously
if it is programmable you can make changes as needed to the programming.
Don't know if the hassle of doing this is worth it.

Shaun Eli December 17th 07 05:00 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
If you want to get fancy, X-10 makes a device that sits under your
thermostat and produces a bit of heat, so it fools the thermostat into
a lower setting.

If you also get a telephone responder you should be able to call your
house and turn that device off before returning home, with enough
advanced notice to let it warm back up. This would have the added
advantage of letting the house stay colder longer if you end up out
longer than you originally planned.

With the disadvantage that you may occasionally forget to call, and
then you'll come home to a cold house.

Shaun Eli
www.BrainChampagne.com
Brain Champagne: Clever Comedy for Smart Minds (sm)

CJT December 18th 07 03:15 AM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
Meat Plow wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message

...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.

If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for 66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10 hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.



If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out of
luck.

With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do whatever
you want.

But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.

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Smitty Two December 18th 07 04:16 AM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
In article , CJT
wrote:

Meat Plow wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message

...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.

If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for 66.

Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10 hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.



If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out of
luck.

With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do whatever
you want.

But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962? Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.

[email protected] December 18th 07 06:25 AM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 17, 8:56 am, Joe wrote:
are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


I like the Honeywell models. Some have a "skip next time
period" (keep it at the current setting) or "go to next time period"
and the hold feature as well. Some do not need battery backups either
unless power is lost for a long time.

Rick Blaine December 18th 07 03:17 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
wrote:


I like the Honeywell models. Some have a "skip next time
period" (keep it at the current setting) or "go to next time period"
and the hold feature as well. Some do not need battery backups either
unless power is lost for a long time.


The latest Honeywell systems (the IAC models) allow you to "log in" to your home
from any web browser, adjust the temp, activate any x10 device, check web
cameras, etc...

--
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"Stay. Here. Forever." - Life On Mars

[email protected] December 18th 07 03:52 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 18, 1:25 am, wrote:
On Dec 17, 8:56 am, Joe wrote:

are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


I like the Honeywell models. Some have a "skip next time
period" (keep it at the current setting) or "go to next time period"
and the hold feature as well. Some do not need battery backups either
unless power is lost for a long time.


The Honeywell LCD touch panel, think they are called VisionPro, have a
feature called vacation hold. It holds the set temp for X days,
which you can set. It also has adaptive recovery, which figures out
how soon to fire up the system for recovery. So, if you want it to
be 70 at 8am, you just set that and it will fire up the system at say
7:10AM. It learns the amount of time needed over a period of time.

I've never seen one with the feature that the OP wants. It would be
similar to the vacation hold on the Honeywell, but would have
increments of hours instead of days.

I'd also suggest the OP check his existing one real close, because he
says it doesn't have a hold feature. He has a programmable one and
I've never seen a prog one that doesn't have a hold.

Seth Goodman December 18th 07 04:57 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
In article 41ec6474-f970-428e-90f7-
on Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:56:29 -
0800 (PST), Joe wrote:

are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


The White-Rodgers 90 Series allow you to set a temporary hold for a
given length of time, in 15 minute increments. The touch screen models
allow up to 2 days of override, the button models allow up to 19 hours.

Cheaper electronic WR models may also have this feature, but I'm not
familiar with them.

--
Seth Goodman

JimmyDahGeek@DON'T_SPAM_ME_gmail.com December 19th 07 02:55 AM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 17, 8:56 am, Joe wrote:
are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


I highly recommend this one. You can change it over the phone.
http://www.scillc.com/cem%20series.htm


Good luck

CJT December 19th 07 03:33 AM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , CJT
wrote:


Meat Plow wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:



On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message

...



are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.

If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for 66.

Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10 hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do whatever
you want.

But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.



Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962? Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.

--
The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
minimize spam. Our true address is of the form .

[email protected] December 19th 07 03:49 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 18, 10:33 pm, CJT wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , CJT
wrote:


Meat Plow wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message


...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for 66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10 hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do whatever
you want.


But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962? Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.



Typical liberal thinking, that the govt should "manage" the economy.

As for the economy, what exactly is so bad about it? Unemployment is
at historically low levels that were considered full employment in the
past. Inflation remains modest and is in check. And GDP is growing
at a decent, sustainable rate. Yet, libs go around moaning like it's
the great depression.





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- Show quoted text -



JoeSpareBedroom December 19th 07 04:20 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 10:33 pm, CJT wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , CJT
wrote:


Meat Plow wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message


...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to
be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to
program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and
set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so
mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone
for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for
66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10
hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do whatever
you want.


But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962?
Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.



Typical liberal thinking, that the govt should "manage" the economy.

As for the economy, what exactly is so bad about it? Unemployment is
at historically low levels that were considered full employment in the
past. Inflation remains modest and is in check. And GDP is growing
at a decent, sustainable rate. Yet, libs go around moaning like it's
the great depression.



What a silly child you are. You responded to what was meant to be a humorous
remark, with your canned kneejerk response.



[email protected] December 19th 07 05:22 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 19, 11:20 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...





On Dec 18, 10:33 pm, CJT wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , CJT
wrote:


Meat Plow wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message


...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings? I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like to
be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to
program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature and
set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home, so
mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm gone
for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it for
66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10
hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do whatever
you want.


But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962?
Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.


Typical liberal thinking, that the govt should "manage" the economy.


As for the economy, what exactly is so bad about it? Unemployment is
at historically low levels that were considered full employment in the
past. Inflation remains modest and is in check. And GDP is growing
at a decent, sustainable rate. Yet, libs go around moaning like it's
the great depression.


What a silly child you are. You responded to what was meant to be a humorous
remark, with your canned kneejerk response.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



I didn't see anything humerous about it, only a cheap shot at
President Bush and an attempt to interject politics into the thread.
If anything, the post I replied to was the silly kneejerk response.

But I doubt you really care, you just want to start another flame
war. You just want to start another flame war by name calling and
taking a shot at me.

JoeSpareBedroom December 19th 07 05:26 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
wrote in message
...
On Dec 19, 11:20 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...





On Dec 18, 10:33 pm, CJT wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , CJT

wrote:


Meat Plow wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message


...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings?
I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like
to
be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to
program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override
the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature
and
set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home,
so
mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm
gone
for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it
for
66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help
what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10
hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for
the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home
or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out
of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your
computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do
whatever
you want.


But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962?
Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from
home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in
your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.


Typical liberal thinking, that the govt should "manage" the economy.


As for the economy, what exactly is so bad about it? Unemployment is
at historically low levels that were considered full employment in the
past. Inflation remains modest and is in check. And GDP is growing
at a decent, sustainable rate. Yet, libs go around moaning like it's
the great depression.


What a silly child you are. You responded to what was meant to be a
humorous
remark, with your canned kneejerk response.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



I didn't see anything humerous about it, only a cheap shot at
President Bush and an attempt to interject politics into the thread.
If anything, the post I replied to was the silly kneejerk response.

But I doubt you really care, you just want to start another flame
war. You just want to start another flame war by name calling and
taking a shot at me.



You WANT people to take shots at you. You thrive on it. It's all you've got.



[email protected] December 19th 07 05:44 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
On Dec 19, 12:26 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...





On Dec 19, 11:20 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message


...


On Dec 18, 10:33 pm, CJT wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
In article , CJT

wrote:


Meat Plow wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message


...


are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day settings?
I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd like
to
be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to
program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override
the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold" feature
and
set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at home,
so
mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if I'm
gone
for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set it
for
66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help
what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about 10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about 10
hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting for
the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be home
or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're out
of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your
computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do
whatever
you want.


But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since 1962?
Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from
home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in
your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.


Typical liberal thinking, that the govt should "manage" the economy.


As for the economy, what exactly is so bad about it? Unemployment is
at historically low levels that were considered full employment in the
past. Inflation remains modest and is in check. And GDP is growing
at a decent, sustainable rate. Yet, libs go around moaning like it's
the great depression.


What a silly child you are. You responded to what was meant to be a
humorous
remark, with your canned kneejerk response.- Hide quoted text -


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I didn't see anything humerous about it, only a cheap shot at
President Bush and an attempt to interject politics into the thread.
If anything, the post I replied to was the silly kneejerk response.


But I doubt you really care, you just want to start another flame
war. You just want to start another flame war by name calling and
taking a shot at me.


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Well, if you think that's what I'm here for and want, since you seem
to dislike me, then why do you keep looking for opportunites to jump
in and give me what you think will make me happy? A smarter fellow
would do the opposite.

JoeSpareBedroom December 19th 07 05:46 PM

Better programmable thermostat?
 
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On Dec 18, 10:33 pm, CJT wrote:
Smitty Two wrote:
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Meat Plow wrote:


On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:41:49 -0800, Joe wrote:


On Dec 17, 9:09 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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are there any programmable thermostats out there that you can
recommend that do better than just the four time a day
settings?
I
sometimes leave the house for odd hours at a time and I'd
like
to
be
able to override 2 or 3 settings at a time without having to
program
each quarter. I'd like to have one that allows me to override
the
custom settings for 5 hours or 8 hours or 2 days if needed.


If you're leaving the house, why not just use the "hold"
feature
and
set it
for whatever is the cheapest use? For instance, I work at
home,
so
mine's
set for 68 (heat) most of the day, and 66 at night. But, if
I'm
gone
for a
lengthy period during the day, I hit the hold button and set
it
for
66.


Mine doesn't have a hold function but that still wouldn't help
what I
want to achieve. I want to be able to easily drop it down about
10
degrees for about 8 hours if I know I'm going to be out about
10
hours
then have it gradually increase back up to the normal setting
for
the
next 2 hours so it's back to normal by the time I'm home. Does
a
thermostat like that exist? This is mostly for weekends where
it's
impossible to program because I don't know if I'm going to be
home
or
out that day.


If the best Honeywell stat doesn't do what you want then you're
out
of
luck.


With a modicum of programming skill and a relay board in your
computer,
you could probably create your own thermostat and make it do
whatever
you want.


But you'd have to worry about all the possible fault modes, short
cycling, etc.


Where's that damn smart house they've been promising us since
1962?
Your
car should tell your house when you're thirty minutes away from
home,
and the heat should start ramping up. In fact, with bluetooth in
your
socks, it should add another five degrees if your feet are wet.


We probably would have 'em if Bush hadn't become President and
mismanaged the economy so badly.


Typical liberal thinking, that the govt should "manage" the economy.


As for the economy, what exactly is so bad about it? Unemployment
is
at historically low levels that were considered full employment in
the
past. Inflation remains modest and is in check. And GDP is
growing
at a decent, sustainable rate. Yet, libs go around moaning like
it's
the great depression.


What a silly child you are. You responded to what was meant to be a
humorous
remark, with your canned kneejerk response.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I didn't see anything humerous about it, only a cheap shot at
President Bush and an attempt to interject politics into the thread.
If anything, the post I replied to was the silly kneejerk response.


But I doubt you really care, you just want to start another flame
war. You just want to start another flame war by name calling and
taking a shot at me.


You WANT people to take shots at you. You thrive on it. It's all you've
got.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, if you think that's what I'm here for and want, since you seem
to dislike me, then why do you keep looking for opportunites to jump
in and give me what you think will make me happy? A smarter fellow
would do the opposite.



You needed to say something about liberals, so you pretended that there was
a valid opportunity.




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