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Chris December 16th 07 03:42 AM

Raising the bathroom
 
Greetings.....I have a bathrom that slopes down over a inch or so at one
end, the foundation has sunk that much over the last almost 50 years.
Too costly too raise foundation so I want to put in another floor on top
of the old one and bring it back to level. The main thing is raising the
bathtub and toilet.
Question: How is the bathtub fixed to the floor?...I have a large
crawlspace below the bathroom but I don't see any ancores or fastners,
is it held by gravity? I really just need to raise one end of tub to
level out with the new floor....which would just be some well ancored
plywood. Basiclly just getting everything in bathroom to be bubble
level again.
Thanks,


jim December 16th 07 05:28 AM

Raising the bathroom
 
On Dec 15, 9:42 pm, (Chris) wrote:
Greetings.....I have a bathrom that slopes down over a inch or so at one
end, the foundation has sunk that much over the last almost 50 years.
Too costly too raise foundation so I want to put in another floor on top
of the old one and bring it back to level. The main thing is raising the
bathtub and toilet.
Question: How is the bathtub fixed to the floor?...I have a large
crawlspace below the bathroom but I don't see any ancores or fastners,
is it held by gravity? I really just need to raise one end of tub to
level out with the new floor....which would just be some well ancored
plywood. Basiclly just getting everything in bathroom to be bubble
level again.
Thanks,


All that holds it in is the drywall and possibly some clips along the
wall suggest youcut the drywall 18 to 24 inches up all the way
around , Take the drain piece out of the bottom and remove the
overflow plate then turn it on its front then on its end then walk it
out.

[email protected] December 16th 07 01:29 PM

Raising the bathroom
 
On Dec 16, 12:28�am, jim wrote:
On Dec 15, 9:42 pm, (Chris) wrote:

Greetings.....I have a bathrom that slopes down over a inch or so at one
end, the foundation has sunk that much over the last almost 50 years.
Too costly too raise foundation so I want to put in another floor on top
of the old one and bring it back to level. The main thing is raising the
bathtub and toilet.
Question: How is the bathtub fixed to the floor?...I have a large
crawlspace below the bathroom but I don't see any ancores or fastners,
is it held by gravity? I really just need to raise one end of tub to
level out with the new floor....which would just be some well ancored
plywood. �Basiclly just getting everything in bathroom to be bubble
level again.
Thanks,


All that holds it in is the drywall and possibly some clips along the
wall suggest youcut the drywall 18 to 24 inches up all the way
around , Take the drain piece out of the bottom and remove the
overflow plate �then turn it on its front then on its end then walk it
out.


i would get the bathroom checked for structural soundness, termites
may have eayten away the sill, stuff like that should be fixed before
cosmetics are fixed,

do you know exactly why the area dropped and that its done moving?

Nate Nagel December 16th 07 01:41 PM

Raising the bathroom
 
wrote:
On Dec 16, 12:28�am, jim wrote:

On Dec 15, 9:42 pm, (Chris) wrote:


Greetings.....I have a bathrom that slopes down over a inch or so at one
end, the foundation has sunk that much over the last almost 50 years.
Too costly too raise foundation so I want to put in another floor on top
of the old one and bring it back to level. The main thing is raising the
bathtub and toilet.
Question: How is the bathtub fixed to the floor?...I have a large
crawlspace below the bathroom but I don't see any ancores or fastners,
is it held by gravity? I really just need to raise one end of tub to
level out with the new floor....which would just be some well ancored
plywood. �Basiclly just getting everything in bathroom to be bubble
level again.
Thanks,


All that holds it in is the drywall and possibly some clips along the
wall suggest youcut the drywall 18 to 24 inches up all the way
around , Take the drain piece out of the bottom and remove the
overflow plate �then turn it on its front then on its end then walk it
out.



i would get the bathroom checked for structural soundness, termites
may have eayten away the sill, stuff like that should be fixed before
cosmetics are fixed,

do you know exactly why the area dropped and that its done moving?


if you have a crawl space why don't you jack it up rather than putting a
new floor in?

nate

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ransley December 16th 07 03:28 PM

Raising the bathroom
 
On Dec 16, 7:41Â*am, Nate Nagel wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 16, 12:28�am, jim wrote:


On Dec 15, 9:42 pm, (Chris) wrote:


Greetings.....I have a bathrom that slopes down over a inch or so at one
end, the foundation has sunk that much over the last almost 50 years.
Too costly too raise foundation so I want to put in another floor on top
of the old one and bring it back to level. The main thing is raising the
bathtub and toilet.
Question: How is the bathtub fixed to the floor?...I have a large
crawlspace below the bathroom but I don't see any ancores or fastners,
is it held by gravity? I really just need to raise one end of tub to
level out with the new floor....which would just be some well ancored
plywood. �Basiclly just getting everything in bathroom to be bubble
level again.
Thanks,


All that holds it in is the drywall and possibly some clips along the
wall suggest youcut the drywall 18 to 24 inches up all the way
around , Take the drain piece out of the bottom and remove the
overflow plate �then turn it on its front then on its end then walk it
out.


i would get the bathroom checked for structural soundness, termites
may have eayten away the sill, stuff like that should be fixed before
cosmetics are fixed,


do you know exactly why the area dropped and that its done moving?


if you have a crawl space why don't you jack it up rather than putting a
new floor in?

nate

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You are going about it wrong, fix your foundation and try to raise it
1" in 10 ft or so is bad, to level a tub you usualy have to remove it.

lp13-30 December 16th 07 04:15 PM

Raising the bathroom
 
Hallerb and the others are correct. I realize that you probably haven't
had the house for the 50 years, but do you know if the house settled
1/50" per year, or if it was level for 49 1/2 yrs and settled an inch
suddenly. What you are wanting to do is certainly possible, but will
likely be a lot of work and end up looking like a patch job, and if the
house settles more after you finish, you will not have accomplished
much. More info and details will get you more advice on solutions.
Larry


Chris December 16th 07 05:55 PM

Raising the bathroom
 
Thanks for the advice so far.
Yeah, this is a weird deal...The house was built on a hillside, the very
back of house has the sloping effect, you can diffently see and feel the
slope in bathroom when you walk in it...It's not a big bathroom, it's
7.5' x 7.5' small.
This house has floor issues as well...next week a floor company is
installing:
Install Kneebracing
Install 6 concert pads
Install 1 concert pier
Install 5 adjustable piers
Straighten existing beam.
(Toltal: $1,600.00
That should level the floors in house expect the bathroom.
The floor man looked at bathroom and said it would not be cost
effective to fix that.
I imagine it would take a company like Powerlift and we're talking
thousands of dollars!
So yes..this may end up a patch job but can't afford any major
foundation work. I don't know how long it took for the house to settle
that much...figure it has taken many years.

So if I can drop in a false floor...it would be easier and inexpensive.
Just have to raise tub and toilet and a small cab/sink up 3/4".
I have a link with a picture of the house...I think once you see the
house you'll understand better the situation.

Yahoo! 360° - easy_living's Blog
Address:http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-6djIX...Wkra0AOJ3?cq=1

Scroll down about half way and you'll see a pic of home. My laptop is
down so this is the only pic I have online at this time. The bathroom is
at the end (highest point) of house but on other side. Now there's a
foundation you don't see everyday, so you can imagine the problem
solving I've encountered since moving in.

But anyway...all that's left to fix really is the bathroom. I figure
drop a false floor in there and call it good...for now.
Thanks for commenting.


[email protected] December 16th 07 08:13 PM

Raising the bathroom
 
I have a bathroom in a very similar situation. The back end under the
sink and toilet has sloped down about an inch. The wall has not
sloped with the floor, so luckily it is just the floor that needs
raising. The bathroom is over a crawlspace off the side of a full
basement and between the attached garage and a slab addition.

Are you sure that it is the ground settling and nothing else in the
crawlspace that is the cause of the bathroom floor being sloped?

In my case, it turns out that the walls of the crawlspace, which are
the foundation for the bathroom, were done as two rows of concrete
blocks topped by four rows of brick, with a narrow ledge offset on the
second row of bricks that holds the ends of the bathroom floor
joists. The mortar has pretty much squeezed out from the bricks in
one wall, causing the slope in the floor. Everything else seems OK,
just one side needs to be held back up by something other than the
original crawlspace wall. I will be jacking that end up with a couple
of Ellis timber jacks.

Take a look at www.ellisok.com for the screw jacks.

If you are having the rest of the house leveled professionally, then
not actually fixing the bathroom floor could leave it even more messed
up.

---Hillel


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