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RF wrote:
SMS 斯蒂文 夏 wrote:
Lou wrote:
Sears lost my business 7 years ago when they sent gang members to my
house to deliver appliances. I haven't been back since.


Yeah, they outsourced the delivery and they outsourced the service,
and it got much worse. Never let them deliver anything. Hopefully you
won't need warranty service.

Still, they very often have the best price, by far, on appliances, and
have a much larger selection that places like Home Depot, Lowes's,
Best Buy, Circuit City, Fry's, or Costco. Costco has the benefit of a
2 year standard warranty, but their selection is very limited.

I need to buy a range and microwave/hood for a rental unit. I was in
Sears today, and I did my usual "reluctant to buy today routine,"
which almost always results in a fairly substantial price cut. In this
case the oven came down from $450 ($500 sale price - 10% mail in
rebate) to $382 with no rebate needed. This was the "associate friends
and family discount") which was 20% then another 10%, for 28% off the
non-sale price of $530.

I actually would have paid the higher price, as no other oven from any
manufacturer had the features I wanted for the rental, which was coil
burners (no ceramic top) but self-cleaning including the oven racks,
and a hidden oven element (the last two features are rather rare on
sub-$1000 ranges), though common on more expensive ceramic cooktop
ranges.

Similarly, the microwave/hood I wanted was not available anywhere
else. I needed a relatively high CFM 30" hood/microwave (400 cfm)
which is not all that common for less than $500, but with the 28%
discount, there is new Kenmore model that is around $250. If you have
tenants that do a lot of Asian stir-fry type cooking, you need a high
cfm exhaust. Even 400 cfm isn't terrific, but a lot of the
microwave/hoods are 300 cfm or less.


I bought a Kenmore microwave oven about 9 months ago and it went belly up
last week.

Prior to buying it I had a GE microwave and it lasted 26 years without
any repairs.
No more Kenmores for me, thank you.


OTOH, the Kenmore we bought before the move from VA to TN (which is as
close as I can place the time which makes it prior to July, 1978) is
still functional for my daughter, daily...

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t...
SMS ???. ? wrote:
Lou wrote:
Sears lost my business 7 years ago when they sent gang members to my
house to deliver appliances. I haven't been back since.


Yeah, they outsourced the delivery and they outsourced the service, and
it got much worse. Never let them deliver anything. Hopefully you won't
need warranty service.

Still, they very often have the best price, by far, on appliances, and
have a much larger selection that places like Home Depot, Lowes's, Best
Buy, Circuit City, Fry's, or Costco. Costco has the benefit of a 2 year
standard warranty, but their selection is very limited.

I need to buy a range and microwave/hood for a rental unit. I was in
Sears today, and I did my usual "reluctant to buy today routine," which
almost always results in a fairly substantial price cut. In this case the
oven came down from $450 ($500 sale price - 10% mail in rebate) to $382
with no rebate needed. This was the "associate friends and family
discount") which was 20% then another 10%, for 28% off the non-sale price
of $530.

I actually would have paid the higher price, as no other oven from any
manufacturer had the features I wanted for the rental, which was coil
burners (no ceramic top) but self-cleaning including the oven racks, and
a hidden oven element (the last two features are rather rare on sub-$1000
ranges), though common on more expensive ceramic cooktop ranges.

Similarly, the microwave/hood I wanted was not available anywhere else. I
needed a relatively high CFM 30" hood/microwave (400 cfm) which is not
all that common for less than $500, but with the 28% discount, there is
new Kenmore model that is around $250. If you have tenants that do a lot
of Asian stir-fry type cooking, you need a high cfm exhaust. Even 400 cfm
isn't terrific, but a lot of the microwave/hoods are 300 cfm or less.


I bought a Kenmore microwave oven about 9 months ago and it went belly up
last week.

Prior to buying it I had a GE microwave and it lasted 26 years without any
repairs.
No more Kenmores for me, thank you.

RF


How old was the Kenmore when you bought it? Who was the prior owner, and
how do you know it wasn't abused?

I also recently replaced a 27 yo Panasonic microwave, and gave the old unit
away. It's still working fine for the new owner.

I replaced it with a GE, which works fine, but the damn beeping at the end
of cycle is going to earn it an early grave. There is absolutely no reason
for that thing to beep so loudly, or so incessantly.

Get a new one next time, they come with warranties I'm told.


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I bought a Kenmore microwave oven about 9 months ago and it went belly up
last week.

Prior to buying it I had a GE microwave and it lasted 26 years without any
repairs.
No more Kenmores for me, thank you.

RF


Companies often lose business from people due to things like that, but the
reality is, your experience means little to the rest of us.

Consider the following,
If every Kenmore microwave died in 9 months, the brand would be out of
business. Most are quite reliable.
Kenmore brand is manufactured by at least three of the major appliance
makers so there is a good change your next one will be made by the same
company
Most microwaves, regardless of the brand label, are made on two or three
assembly lines (Sharp is one of the biggest)
Every appliance company has a few DOAs or early demises or multi-repaired
lemons.
No appliance company makes things the way they did 26 years ago, be that
good or bad
Sometimes, **** happens. Sucks when it happens to you.

In terms of real dollars (or hours worked to buy the appliance) you paid a
LOT of money back then compared to the $49 you can pay today. Chances are,
you had to work 15 to 20 hours to buy the basic model compared to 2 hours
for one well equipped.


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k wrote:
"RF" wrote in message
t...
SMS ???. ? wrote:
Lou wrote:
Sears lost my business 7 years ago when they sent gang members to my
house to deliver appliances. I haven't been back since.
Yeah, they outsourced the delivery and they outsourced the service, and
it got much worse. Never let them deliver anything. Hopefully you won't
need warranty service.

Still, they very often have the best price, by far, on appliances, and
have a much larger selection that places like Home Depot, Lowes's, Best
Buy, Circuit City, Fry's, or Costco. Costco has the benefit of a 2 year
standard warranty, but their selection is very limited.

I need to buy a range and microwave/hood for a rental unit. I was in
Sears today, and I did my usual "reluctant to buy today routine," which
almost always results in a fairly substantial price cut. In this case the
oven came down from $450 ($500 sale price - 10% mail in rebate) to $382
with no rebate needed. This was the "associate friends and family
discount") which was 20% then another 10%, for 28% off the non-sale price
of $530.

I actually would have paid the higher price, as no other oven from any
manufacturer had the features I wanted for the rental, which was coil
burners (no ceramic top) but self-cleaning including the oven racks, and
a hidden oven element (the last two features are rather rare on sub-$1000
ranges), though common on more expensive ceramic cooktop ranges.

Similarly, the microwave/hood I wanted was not available anywhere else. I
needed a relatively high CFM 30" hood/microwave (400 cfm) which is not
all that common for less than $500, but with the 28% discount, there is
new Kenmore model that is around $250. If you have tenants that do a lot
of Asian stir-fry type cooking, you need a high cfm exhaust. Even 400 cfm
isn't terrific, but a lot of the microwave/hoods are 300 cfm or less.

I bought a Kenmore microwave oven about 9 months ago and it went belly up
last week.

Prior to buying it I had a GE microwave and it lasted 26 years without any
repairs.
No more Kenmores for me, thank you.

RF


How old was the Kenmore when you bought it? Who was the prior owner, and
how do you know it wasn't abused?


It was 0 years old - BRAND NEW!!

I also recently replaced a 27 yo Panasonic microwave, and gave the old unit
away. It's still working fine for the new owner.

I replaced it with a GE, which works fine, but the damn beeping at the end
of cycle is going to earn it an early grave. There is absolutely no reason
for that thing to beep so loudly, or so incessantly.

Get a new one next time, they come with warranties I'm told.


But I did!
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"RF" wrote in message
I bought a Kenmore microwave oven about 9 months ago and it went belly up
last week.

Prior to buying it I had a GE microwave and it lasted 26 years without any
repairs.
No more Kenmores for me, thank you.

RF


Companies often lose business from people due to things like that, but the
reality is, your experience means little to the rest of us.

Consider the following,
If every Kenmore microwave died in 9 months, the brand would be out of
business. Most are quite reliable.
Kenmore brand is manufactured by at least three of the major appliance
makers so there is a good change your next one will be made by the same
company
Most microwaves, regardless of the brand label, are made on two or three
assembly lines (Sharp is one of the biggest)
Every appliance company has a few DOAs or early demises or multi-repaired
lemons.
No appliance company makes things the way they did 26 years ago, be that
good or bad
Sometimes, **** happens. Sucks when it happens to you.

In terms of real dollars (or hours worked to buy the appliance) you paid a
LOT of money back then compared to the $49 you can pay today. Chances are,
you had to work 15 to 20 hours to buy the basic model compared to 2 hours
for one well equipped.


Yes, it's true that microwaves are very reliable generally. But all
manufacturing is done to
certain tolerances and at times a component that falls just outside the
range is made and
installed. That's usually the reason they fail.

Hopefully, there is no other similar component in it waiting to go
bellyup :-)






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nick hull wrote:
Sears is voluntarily paying the difference in salaries and maintaining all
benefits, including medical insurance and bonus programs, for all called up
reservist employees for up to two years.


If you want the war to last forever, support Sears & Bush. If you want
the war to end, boycott Sears. Let those dumb enough to fight wars for
Halliburton pay the price.

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No more Kenmores for me, thank you.

RF


Before buying a new microwave, find out who made the Kenmore, so you
don't go out and buy the same brand somewhere else.
http://www.appliance411.com/parts/sears.shtml


This is true. In fact the Kenmore stuff I just bought, is made by GE. As
with all brands, there is the good and the bad. Just because something
is Kenmore by GE or Kenmore by Whirlpool, doesn't mean much as each
manufacturer has a wide range of models and quality.
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