SteveB wrote:
We're doing an add-on. We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot. Sink,
toilet, cabinets, lots of "stuff".

When we bought the goods, we told the man we would be out of town until
Monday, and deliver it on MONDAY. Friday, they thought they would deliver
because they had a truck going to our little town on another delivery. So,
they leave the stuff with a neighbor on our road a quarter of a mile away.
Don't get a signature, no one checks the merchandise off, it's sitting
outside. No rain, luckily. They leave a message on our cell phone (which
was in the charger at the time) that they delivered.

We called back, and the guy had gone home. We talk to the manager, and
explain that by the time we return, all the goods may be missing, damaged,
or whatever. Also tell him that we have no way to move the goods the
quarter mile from where it was delivered to where it was supposed to go.

He sends the truck back to pick the stuff up at my neighbor's. They will
deliver it tomorrow as originally designated. We will inspect it closely
for any dings that may have occurred during all this excess handling, and
send back anything that is damaged.

I love Home Depot.


Steve


Why? A real store would have delivered the stuff properly and you
wouldn't be calling managers and "carefully inspecting goods" that were
left out in the rain.

We're doing an add-on. We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot. Sink,
toilet, cabinets, lots of "stuff".

When we bought the goods, we told the man we would be out of town until
Monday, and deliver it on MONDAY. Friday, they thought they would deliver
because they had a truck going to our little town on another delivery. So,
they leave the stuff with a neighbor on our road a quarter of a mile away.
Don't get a signature, no one checks the merchandise off, it's sitting
outside. No rain, luckily. They leave a message on our cell phone (which
was in the charger at the time) that they delivered.

We called back, and the guy had gone home. We talk to the manager, and
explain that by the time we return, all the goods may be missing, damaged,
or whatever. Also tell him that we have no way to move the goods the
quarter mile from where it was delivered to where it was supposed to go.

He sends the truck back to pick the stuff up at my neighbor's. They will
deliver it tomorrow as originally designated. We will inspect it closely
for any dings that may have occurred during all this excess handling, and
send back anything that is damaged.

I love Home Depot.


Steve

"George" wrote in message
. ..
SteveB wrote:
We're doing an add-on. We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot.
Sink, toilet, cabinets, lots of "stuff".

When we bought the goods, we told the man we would be out of town until
Monday, and deliver it on MONDAY. Friday, they thought they would
deliver because they had a truck going to our little town on another
delivery. So, they leave the stuff with a neighbor on our road a quarter
of a mile away. Don't get a signature, no one checks the merchandise off,
it's sitting outside. No rain, luckily. They leave a message on our
cell phone (which was in the charger at the time) that they delivered.

We called back, and the guy had gone home. We talk to the manager, and
explain that by the time we return, all the goods may be missing,
damaged, or whatever. Also tell him that we have no way to move the
goods the quarter mile from where it was delivered to where it was
supposed to go.

He sends the truck back to pick the stuff up at my neighbor's. They will
deliver it tomorrow as originally designated. We will inspect it closely
for any dings that may have occurred during all this excess handling, and
send back anything that is damaged.

I love Home Depot.


Steve
Why? A real store would have delivered the stuff properly and you wouldn't
be calling managers and "carefully inspecting goods" that were left out in
the rain.

Hold your phone calls, folks. We have a winner!

Steve

Somebody buy George a dictionary so he can look up the word "sarcasm"

"George" wrote in message
. ..
SteveB wrote:
We're doing an add-on. We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot.
Sink, toilet, cabinets, lots of "stuff".

When we bought the goods, we told the man we would be out of town until
Monday, and deliver it on MONDAY. Friday, they thought they would
deliver because they had a truck going to our little town on another
delivery. So, they leave the stuff with a neighbor on our road a quarter
of a mile away. Don't get a signature, no one checks the merchandise off,
it's sitting outside. No rain, luckily. They leave a message on our
cell phone (which was in the charger at the time) that they delivered.

We called back, and the guy had gone home. We talk to the manager, and
explain that by the time we return, all the goods may be missing,
damaged, or whatever. Also tell him that we have no way to move the
goods the quarter mile from where it was delivered to where it was
supposed to go.

He sends the truck back to pick the stuff up at my neighbor's. They will
deliver it tomorrow as originally designated. We will inspect it closely
for any dings that may have occurred during all this excess handling, and
send back anything that is damaged.

I love Home Depot.


Steve
Why? A real store would have delivered the stuff properly and you wouldn't
be calling managers and "carefully inspecting goods" that were left out in
the rain.

On Oct 28, 3:02 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"George" wrote in message

. ..





SteveB wrote:
We're doing an add-on. We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot.
Sink, toilet, cabinets, lots of "stuff".

When we bought the goods, we told the man we would be out of town until
Monday, and deliver it on MONDAY. Friday, they thought they would
deliver because they had a truck going to our little town on another
delivery. So, they leave the stuff with a neighbor on our road a quarter
of a mile away. Don't get a signature, no one checks the merchandise off,
it's sitting outside. No rain, luckily. They leave a message on our
cell phone (which was in the charger at the time) that they delivered.

We called back, and the guy had gone home. We talk to the manager, and
explain that by the time we return, all the goods may be missing,
damaged, or whatever. Also tell him that we have no way to move the
goods the quarter mile from where it was delivered to where it was
supposed to go.

He sends the truck back to pick the stuff up at my neighbor's. They will
deliver it tomorrow as originally designated. We will inspect it closely
for any dings that may have occurred during all this excess handling, and
send back anything that is damaged.

I love Home Depot.

Steve
Why? A real store would have delivered the stuff properly and you wouldn't
be calling managers and "carefully inspecting goods" that were left out in
the rain.

Hold your phone calls, folks. We have a winner!

Steve- Hide quoted text -

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Failure to communicate!
And/or the sellers procedures do not include method of writing on the
delivery order any delivery instructions and timing.
Clearly up to the manager to a) Fix the immediate problem as they
appear to be doing, on MONDAY b) To look at his companies procedures
and alter or bypass them so this doesn't happen again.
This is somewhat similar to a situation encountered in a Mideastern
country, where it was emphasized to buy locally as much as possible.
An order for some 50 routine items was placed; based on previous
experience instructions were to deliver when a reasonable number of
items w had been received, for a total maybe of three deliveries. One
wekend my relative received call that items were being delivered and
would he please go into work to receive and sign for them. He dis o to
find only 3 items one of which was insulating tape. He repeated
instructions verbally to the delvery driver to not come again until a
good portion of the goods were ready. No dice; it happened again this
time on a working day, fortunately, just one or two items dribbled in
at a time! One wonders how some places stay in business?

I'll agree with George, they never should have allowed the truck
to leave without getting ahold of you first. This is just one of the
reason's
I do not use places like Home Depot any more. There are plenty of
places that sell the same items for the same money, sometimes a bit
higher but believe in customer service. I have yet to be able to walk
into
a Home Depot without having to find an employee.
Lou

"curmudgeon" wrote in message
news
Somebody buy George a dictionary so he can look up the word "sarcasm"

"George" wrote in message
. ..
SteveB wrote:
We're doing an add-on. We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot.
Sink, toilet, cabinets, lots of "stuff".

When we bought the goods, we told the man we would be out of town until
Monday, and deliver it on MONDAY. Friday, they thought they would
deliver because they had a truck going to our little town on another
delivery. So, they leave the stuff with a neighbor on our road a
quarter of a mile away. Don't get a signature, no one checks the
merchandise off, it's sitting outside. No rain, luckily. They leave a
message on our cell phone (which was in the charger at the time) that
they delivered.

We called back, and the guy had gone home. We talk to the manager, and
explain that by the time we return, all the goods may be missing,
damaged, or whatever. Also tell him that we have no way to move the
goods the quarter mile from where it was delivered to where it was
supposed to go.

He sends the truck back to pick the stuff up at my neighbor's. They
will deliver it tomorrow as originally designated. We will inspect it
closely for any dings that may have occurred during all this excess
handling, and send back anything that is damaged.

I love Home Depot.


Steve
Why? A real store would have delivered the stuff properly and you
wouldn't be calling managers and "carefully inspecting goods" that were
left out in the rain.



Thank you, sir. It is somewhat comforting to see there's one lucid sober
person here.

Steve

"Lou" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'll agree with George, they never should have allowed the truck
to leave without getting ahold of you first. This is just one of the
reason's
I do not use places like Home Depot any more. There are plenty of
places that sell the same items for the same money, sometimes a bit
higher but believe in customer service. I have yet to be able to walk
into
a Home Depot without having to find an employee.
Lou


I'm getting real thin with HD also. We got stuff at Lowe's, but it all
amounts to shopping and buying what you need at the price you want to pay.

We needed an exterior steel door. Home Depot in our area doesn't sell them
any more. Lowe's sells them, but only in 4" jambs. You have to buy an
"adapter" kit which amounts to strips of wood. It was $155. At a door
store, it was $355 for a steel door and $450 for a fiberglass one.........
in 6" jamb.

Sheesh.

That's another reason I love HD.

And Lowe's.

Steve

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:49:51 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Lou" wrote in message
roups.com...
I'll agree with George, they never should have allowed the truck
to leave without getting ahold of you first. This is just one of the
reason's
I do not use places like Home Depot any more. There are plenty of
places that sell the same items for the same money, sometimes a bit
higher but believe in customer service. I have yet to be able to walk
into
a Home Depot without having to find an employee.
Lou


I'm getting real thin with HD also. We got stuff at Lowe's, but it all
amounts to shopping and buying what you need at the price you want to pay.

We needed an exterior steel door. Home Depot in our area doesn't sell them
any more. Lowe's sells them, but only in 4" jambs. You have to buy an
"adapter" kit which amounts to strips of wood. It was $155. At a door
store, it was $355 for a steel door and $450 for a fiberglass one.........
in 6" jamb.

Avanti Doors
4650 S Decatur Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89103
(702) 873-1885

See what a steel door with the needed jamb will cost. They have a nice
show room and will custom make your door to specs.

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:49:51 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Lou" wrote in message
groups.com...
I'll agree with George, they never should have allowed the truck
to leave without getting ahold of you first. This is just one of the
reason's
I do not use places like Home Depot any more. There are plenty of
places that sell the same items for the same money, sometimes a bit
higher but believe in customer service. I have yet to be able to walk
into
a Home Depot without having to find an employee.
Lou


I'm getting real thin with HD also. We got stuff at Lowe's, but it all
amounts to shopping and buying what you need at the price you want to pay.

We needed an exterior steel door. Home Depot in our area doesn't sell
them
any more. Lowe's sells them, but only in 4" jambs. You have to buy an
"adapter" kit which amounts to strips of wood. It was $155. At a door
store, it was $355 for a steel door and $450 for a fiberglass one.........
in 6" jamb.

Avanti Doors
4650 S Decatur Blvd
Las Vegas, NV 89103
(702) 873-1885

See what a steel door with the needed jamb will cost. They have a nice
show room and will custom make your door to specs.

--
Oren

"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens
constantly."

We left the Hell Hole yesterday, arriving back here in Southern Utah until
Wednesday when we must return to Sodom and Gomorrah to do some actual work
for a day or two.

The add-on is here, near St. George.

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin' .......

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin'
.......

Steve

I've traveled to LV many times both for business and to visit family (my
daughter moved there about 10 years ago). I could never figure why anyone
would choose to live there, yet it keeps on growing. .

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin'
.......

Steve

I've traveled to LV many times both for business and to visit family (my
daughter moved there about 10 years ago). I could never figure why anyone
would choose to live there, yet it keeps on growing. .

It wasn't a choice for me. My family moved there in 1952, and I was four
years old and didn't get to vote.

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported to
the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to the
needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.

Need I go on?

It was a good ride. My wife and I have 100 years in LV between the two of
us. But the "old days" are dead and gone. It's still good, but not even
approaching the shadow of what it was in its glory days when "The Boys" ran
things.

Time to take the money and run. Enough glitz and glamour. Time to watch
the birds, enjoy the sunsets, go fishing, and get away from the dark side
that all that money brings.

Steve

Edwin Pawlowski writes:

We bought a bunch of stuff from Home Depot.

Had a similar experience with a kitchen remodel. They show up at an
unapppointed time, with no one home to sign for $1000s worth of stuff, so
they left it with no signature. Plus they left their dolly and never came
back for it.

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:37:14 -0700, SteveB wrote:



"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

"SteveB" wrote in message

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin'
.......

Steve

I've traveled to LV many times both for business and to visit family (my
daughter moved there about 10 years ago). I could never figure why anyone
would choose to live there, yet it keeps on growing. .

It wasn't a choice for me. My family moved there in 1952, and I was four
years old and didn't get to vote.

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported to
the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to the
needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.


I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless are graced
with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater, concert, standup,
etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere else.

SteveB wrote:
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin'
.......

Steve
I've traveled to LV many times both for business and to visit family (my
daughter moved there about 10 years ago). I could never figure why anyone
would choose to live there, yet it keeps on growing. .

It wasn't a choice for me. My family moved there in 1952, and I was four
years old and didn't get to vote.

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported to
the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to the
needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.

Need I go on?

It was a good ride. My wife and I have 100 years in LV between the two of
us. But the "old days" are dead and gone. It's still good, but not even
approaching the shadow of what it was in its glory days when "The Boys" ran
things.

Time to take the money and run. Enough glitz and glamour. Time to watch
the birds, enjoy the sunsets, go fishing, and get away from the dark side
that all that money brings.

Worry not- Mother Nature will sort it all out soon enough. As fast as
water table is dropping, just like down in Arizona big cities, at some
point the problem will solve itself. Assuming Washington has sense to
not fund any of the proposed schemes to drain Great Lakes thataway vis
gazillion dollar pipeline.

aem sends...

SteveB wrote:

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported
to the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to
the needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.

Need I go on?

Yes. Nove of those are of interest or need to me.

Besides, it is 100+ degrees from May to September

SteveB wrote:


It was a good ride. My wife and I have 100 years in LV between the two of
us. But the "old days" are dead and gone. It's still good, but not even
approaching the shadow of what it was in its glory days when "The Boys" ran
things.

Time to take the money and run. Enough glitz and glamour. Time to watch
the birds, enjoy the sunsets, go fishing, and get away from the dark side
that all that money brings.

Steve



Do the locals still eat at Jerry's Nugget in north L.V.? ;-) IIRC the
prime rib was par excellence.

AZ Nomad wrote:

I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless
are graced with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater,
concert, standup, etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere
else.

Getting there is cheap. Staying there is cheap. Entertainment is cheap. Food
is VERY cheap.

More people visit Las Vegas than any other tourist destination (including
Orlando and Sioux Falls, SD).

No state income tax, no corporate income tax, right-to-work state. LOTS of
money.

I remember when Comdex was in its glory. 220,000 attendees. Las Vegas
gobbled them up without a burp.

If you want more clement weather, with much of the same advantages, Reno is
markedly cooler (and closer to the brothels).

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:37:14 -0700, SteveB
wrote:



"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
et...

"SteveB" wrote in message

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin'
.......

Steve

I've traveled to LV many times both for business and to visit family (my
daughter moved there about 10 years ago). I could never figure why
anyone
would choose to live there, yet it keeps on growing. .

It wasn't a choice for me. My family moved there in 1952, and I was four
years old and didn't get to vote.

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported to
the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to
the
needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.


I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless are
graced
with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater, concert,
standup,
etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere else.

Well, good. Then keep your cheap ass down there with the chuckawallas and
roadrunners. Apparently 40 million people disagree with you. But what do
they know?

Steve

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

SteveB wrote:

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported
to the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to
the needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax
laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.

Need I go on?

Yes. Nove of those are of interest or need to me.

Besides, it is 100+ degrees from May to September

I was just stating the positives.

The negatives:

Heat
Smog
Traffic
HORRIBLE drivers
High insurance rates
High crime rates
High suicide rates
Illegal aliens from various planets
High housing costs
Gangs
Other various idiots

Need I go on?

Nowhere is perfect.

Steve

"Manster" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:


It was a good ride. My wife and I have 100 years in LV between the two
of us. But the "old days" are dead and gone. It's still good, but not
even approaching the shadow of what it was in its glory days when "The
Boys" ran things.

Time to take the money and run. Enough glitz and glamour. Time to watch
the birds, enjoy the sunsets, go fishing, and get away from the dark side
that all that money brings.

Steve

Do the locals still eat at Jerry's Nugget in north L.V.? ;-) IIRC the
prime rib was par excellence.

Yes, Jerry's is still there with it's economy prime rib dinner. Lots of
other places with good cheap prime rib, too. If you shop around, there are
lots of food and entertainment bargains in Vegas.

Steve

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0500, HeyBub wrote:


AZ Nomad wrote:

I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless
are graced with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater,
concert, standup, etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere
else.

Getting there is cheap. Staying there is cheap. Entertainment is cheap. Food
is VERY cheap.

Getting there is average. Staying there is slightly below average.
Entertainment is *very* expensive unless you get a casino to pay for it.
Food is average.

SteveB wrote:
"Manster" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:


It was a good ride. My wife and I have 100 years in LV between the two
of us. But the "old days" are dead and gone. It's still good, but not
even approaching the shadow of what it was in its glory days when "The
Boys" ran things.

Time to take the money and run. Enough glitz and glamour. Time to watch
the birds, enjoy the sunsets, go fishing, and get away from the dark side
that all that money brings.

Steve
Do the locals still eat at Jerry's Nugget in north L.V.? ;-) IIRC the
prime rib was par excellence.

Yes, Jerry's is still there with it's economy prime rib dinner. Lots of
other places with good cheap prime rib, too. If you shop around, there are
lots of food and entertainment bargains in Vegas.

Steve



Well yeah, but I'm not a shopper really. I go with local advice. I
hate the Strip, avoid it like the plague, and stay downtown at the 4
Queens. I was told about Jerry's many years ago. It's an old joint for
sure, but the p.rib is hard to beat. Where else would you suggest for
good beef and seafood w/o the Bellagio prices?

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:45:07 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:49:51 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin' .......

Steve

Not a single person :-))

Expect to wait it out in this market. Keep in mind the "right buyer"
hasn't been through them yet. Stay positive...if you can

--
Oren

"Painting is the art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather and exposing them to the critics."

"Manster" wrote

Well yeah, but I'm not a shopper really. I go with local advice. I hate
the Strip, avoid it like the plague, and stay downtown at the 4 Queens. I
was told about Jerry's many years ago. It's an old joint for sure, but
the p.rib is hard to beat. Where else would you suggest for good beef and
seafood w/o the Bellagio prices?

I don't know. We live there, and people assume that we eat at all the
restaurants.

Do this. Google Review Journal Best Of Las Vegas. It's a yearly local
survey, and the people of Las Vegas choose THEIR favorite places.

If you like Italian, DiStefano's at Trop and Pecos is one of our favorites.
Great Italian with off the Strip prices. The seafood combo is actually a
cioppino like soup dish with lobster, calamari, shrimp, mussels, and other
seafood. MONDO portions. All their other stuff is good, too. From the
time you hit the front door and the aroma grabs you, it's like going 25
years back to the old Vegas. They have a lounge lizard that performs a few
days a week.

Steve

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0500, HeyBub wrote:


AZ Nomad wrote:

I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless
are graced with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater,
concert, standup, etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere
else.

Getting there is cheap. Staying there is cheap. Entertainment is cheap.
Food
is VERY cheap.

Getting there is average. Staying there is slightly below average.
Entertainment is *very* expensive unless you get a casino to pay for it.
Food is average.


And I bet you have a GREAT time no matter where you go.

Right?

No?

Maybe?

It's all attitude, and I can see you already have your mind made up.

Steve

"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:45:07 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Oren" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:49:51 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

Know anyone who wants to buy two houses in Las Vegas? We're dealin'
.......

Steve

Not a single person :-))

Expect to wait it out in this market. Keep in mind the "right buyer"
hasn't been through them yet. Stay positive...if you can

--
Oren

We're going to continue using them as vacation rentals. We have them booked
into May of '08 currently. We will be installing a management couple soon,
which will lessen our headaches and involvement in their management. This
is a lucky situation. Lots of people in Vegas are walking, or just hoping
to rent them out and break even.

Las Vegas is running out of land, so I see it starting to swing back in two
to three years, then zoom. I don't know if I want to hold on that long. I
do have some other things in the pipeline and some first trust deed
investments that will hold us until then. Luckily.

Steve

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:00:06 -0700, SteveB wrote:



"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0500, HeyBub wrote:


AZ Nomad wrote:

I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless
are graced with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater,
concert, standup, etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere
else.

Getting there is cheap. Staying there is cheap. Entertainment is cheap.
Food
is VERY cheap.

Getting there is average. Staying there is slightly below average.
Entertainment is *very* expensive unless you get a casino to pay for it.
Food is average.


And I bet you have a GREAT time no matter where you go.

Right?

So far yes, except for LV. I don't smoke; don't drink any more as I'm
an alcoholic, so being in smoke filled rooms with drunks playing slot
machines bores me to tears. Theater, concerts, and standup were outragiously
expensive. I just wasn't willing to pay $150-250/seat. I'll take SF, LA,
NYC, Boston, Chicago over LV any time. LV is a useless city.

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

As per today, reasons for moving to Las Vegas:

Anyone who can count to 21 can make $60,000 a year dealing cards.
Any girl who has nice ***s can make at least that much that is reported to
the IRS.
Anyone who has a room temperature IQ can start a business that caters to
the
needs of these people who have a LOT of disposable income.
People who have higher IQs and higher ambitions are awash in customers.
Businesses and corporations are relocating to Nevada due to its tax laws.
Nevada has no state income taxes.
The sun shines 350 days a year.

Need I go on?

It's the natural beauty and peaceful demeanor of the place that draws people
from all across the country.

In case you decide to refute this, pls see the inital postings in this
thread sarcasm

curmudgeon wrote:
Somebody buy George a dictionary so he can look up the word "sarcasm"


I do know what sarcasm is. There are lots and lots of people who drank
the big box kool-aid and actually believe all of the stuff they are told.

Advertising is powerful and thats why big box places spend 100s of
millions telling you how wonderful they are.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:56:40 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

I'll take SF, LA,
NYC, Boston, Chicago over LV any time. LV is a useless city.

Those choices suck. Had you picked San Diego you would have more
lawyers.

cheers .. from the brightest city on earth...

--
Oren

"I didn’t say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you."

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:00:06 -0700, SteveB
wrote:



"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:46:17 -0500, HeyBub
wrote:


AZ Nomad wrote:

I can't even figure out why anybody would even want to visit. Unless
are graced with free tickets from some casino, show tickets (theater,
concert, standup, etc.) are priced five times higher than anywhere
else.

Getting there is cheap. Staying there is cheap. Entertainment is cheap.
Food
is VERY cheap.

Getting there is average. Staying there is slightly below average.
Entertainment is *very* expensive unless you get a casino to pay for it.
Food is average.


And I bet you have a GREAT time no matter where you go.

Right?

So far yes, except for LV. I don't smoke; don't drink any more as I'm
an alcoholic, so being in smoke filled rooms with drunks playing slot
machines bores me to tears. Theater, concerts, and standup were
outragiously
expensive. I just wasn't willing to pay $150-250/seat. I'll take SF, LA,
NYC, Boston, Chicago over LV any time. LV is a useless city.

Well, then, for the rest of us who can still drink and handle the guilt,
don't mind spending what we want for an evening's entertainment without
having to critique the cost, and who still can do what we want to do without
getting sponsor's permission, we salute you!

Steve

"George" wrote in message
. ..
curmudgeon wrote:
Somebody buy George a dictionary so he can look up the word "sarcasm"

I do know what sarcasm is. There are lots and lots of people who drank the
big box kool-aid and actually believe all of the stuff they are told.

Advertising is powerful and thats why big box places spend 100s of
millions telling you how wonderful they are.

And the sheep swallow. There's nothing better than sheep that swallow.
Other than a girlfriend that does ........................ ;-)

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message

The negatives:

Heat
Smog
Traffic
HORRIBLE drivers
High insurance rates
High crime rates
High suicide rates
Illegal aliens from various planets
High housing costs
Gangs
Other various idiots

Need I go on?

Nowhere is perfect.

Steve

When I first started going there, traffic was not so bad. Every visit seems
worse and the view from the sky just shows more and more lights spreading
further and further away. The Strip is just such an incredible mass of
people and cars on a Friday or Saturday night I'm amazed that it moves at
all.

Vegas still has some of the best shows and restaurants though. While I have
no desire to live there, it is one of those places that everyone should
experience for a few days.

As for your last item, the "other various idiots", that just adds character.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

..

Home Depot RE delivered the stuff today that they were supposed to deliver
today, but delivered last Friday. In the mix were three 24" cabinets that
were not on the order, but the driver DIDN'T want to take back.

I Love Home Depot.

Steve

PS: I gave the driver $20 to cover lunch. And I just about had to hold him
down to get it in his pocket.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
. net...

"SteveB" wrote in message

The negatives:

Heat
Smog
Traffic
HORRIBLE drivers
High insurance rates
High crime rates
High suicide rates
Illegal aliens from various planets
High housing costs
Gangs
Other various idiots

Need I go on?

Nowhere is perfect.

Steve

When I first started going there, traffic was not so bad. Every visit
seems worse and the view from the sky just shows more and more lights
spreading further and further away. The Strip is just such an incredible
mass of people and cars on a Friday or Saturday night I'm amazed that it
moves at all.

Vegas still has some of the best shows and restaurants though. While I
have no desire to live there, it is one of those places that everyone
should experience for a few days.

As for your last item, the "other various idiots", that just adds
character.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

I close my eyes.

I imagine what the Strip was like in the 1960's.

(I was a valet parking attendant, and could tell you stories.)

I see what it is now.

I sigh .......................

Last one turn out the lights ...................

Steve

SteveB wrote:
"AZ Nomad" wrote in message

And I bet you have a GREAT time no matter where you go.
Right?

So far yes, except for LV. I don't smoke; don't drink any more as I'm
an alcoholic, so being in smoke filled rooms with drunks playing slot
machines bores me to tears. Theater, concerts, and standup were
outragiously
expensive. I just wasn't willing to pay $150-250/seat. I'll take SF, LA,
NYC, Boston, Chicago over LV any time. LV is a useless city.

Well, then, for the rest of us who can still drink and handle the guilt,
don't mind spending what we want for an evening's entertainment without
having to critique the cost, and who still can do what we want to do without
getting sponsor's permission, we salute you!

Steve


Amen. And thanks for the tip on DiStefano's.