I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve

SteveB wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve

This is a new install at the cabin? The "unit" may be the same, but how
about the ancillary system components like the air handler, ducting,
etc.? Those components could account for a decent chunk of the
difference.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:37:15 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve



Go to a HVAC supplies shop where they have furnaces on display. Take
a good look at how they are constructed and read the installation
manual. Ask the sales counter guys all the questions you have and
you'll find that installing a furnace is not at all difficult. This
is especially if it is only to replace a current one at the same
location. The instruction manual gives all the information you need.
You can even install it yourself. But given your admission of lack of
knowledge of things mechanical pay a contractor to do it.

Get a price quote for the furnace. The basic high efficiency one I
had in mind costs CDN$1,300. A contractor gets a trade discount that
will be a profit to him. Figure out a reasonable the labor costs from
you knowledge of furnace hardware prices.

For a contractor to do more than is specified in the instruction
manual is highly unlikely. Ask what he is doing for the "more" and
you are already armed with the correct knowledge to figure out if he
is fibbing. For a contractor to do less will be a code violation and
highly dangerous for you. You have the correct knowledge from the
manual and from the shop that sells them to out him too.

Talk to the lowest bidder and ask him what his installation work will
involve. He's sounds like the most honest contractor.

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid
they
KNOW I am?

Steve

This is a new install at the cabin? The "unit" may be the same, but how
about the ancillary system components like the air handler, ducting,
etc.? Those components could account for a decent chunk of the
difference.

All three bids for the same site. Done from the blueprints and partially
framed house.

Steve

"PaPaPeng" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:37:15 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve



Go to a HVAC supplies shop where they have furnaces on display. Take
a good look at how they are constructed and read the installation
manual. Ask the sales counter guys all the questions you have and
you'll find that installing a furnace is not at all difficult. This
is especially if it is only to replace a current one at the same
location. The instruction manual gives all the information you need.
You can even install it yourself. But given your admission of lack of
knowledge of things mechanical pay a contractor to do it.

Get a price quote for the furnace. The basic high efficiency one I
had in mind costs CDN$1,300. A contractor gets a trade discount that
will be a profit to him. Figure out a reasonable the labor costs from
you knowledge of furnace hardware prices.

For a contractor to do more than is specified in the instruction
manual is highly unlikely. Ask what he is doing for the "more" and
you are already armed with the correct knowledge to figure out if he
is fibbing. For a contractor to do less will be a code violation and
highly dangerous for you. You have the correct knowledge from the
manual and from the shop that sells them to out him too.

Talk to the lowest bidder and ask him what his installation work will
involve. He's sounds like the most honest contractor.

This is for a heat pump. All three bids were names given to me by the
general contractor and said to be good craftsman. Just way different in the
price.

Steve

SteveB wrote:
"PaPaPeng" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:37:15 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was
for $4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get
the best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and
best butt crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual
favors other than bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people
have a different image of themselves and a different idea of just
how stupid they KNOW I am?

Steve



Go to a HVAC supplies shop where they have furnaces on display. Take
a good look at how they are constructed and read the installation
manual. Ask the sales counter guys all the questions you have and
you'll find that installing a furnace is not at all difficult. This
is especially if it is only to replace a current one at the same
location. The instruction manual gives all the information you need.
You can even install it yourself. But given your admission of lack
of knowledge of things mechanical pay a contractor to do it.

Get a price quote for the furnace. The basic high efficiency one I
had in mind costs CDN$1,300. A contractor gets a trade discount that
will be a profit to him. Figure out a reasonable the labor costs from
you knowledge of furnace hardware prices.

For a contractor to do more than is specified in the instruction
manual is highly unlikely. Ask what he is doing for the "more" and
you are already armed with the correct knowledge to figure out if he
is fibbing. For a contractor to do less will be a code violation and
highly dangerous for you. You have the correct knowledge from the
manual and from the shop that sells them to out him too.

Talk to the lowest bidder and ask him what his installation work will
involve. He's sounds like the most honest contractor.

This is for a heat pump. All three bids were names given to me by the
general contractor and said to be good craftsman. Just way different
in the price.

Steve

I thought you said - "I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same
unit. One was for $4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500."
Now it's a Heat Pump.

I would want to know who "sized" the equipment for your job and "how" did
they decide? Was it a mechanical engineer or did they use the "thumb rule?"
Will the ducts be installed above or below? Will they be using endflex
[spiral aluminum] or flex? Will they be using one manufactuer's equipment
or several?

I would ask the General Contractor what he thought? Also, do you "have" to
use "his" recommended contractors? Can you ask your friends, neighbors, and
relatives for their recommendations?



--
Zyp

"SteveB" wrote in message

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve

The biggest difference is what they think they can get from you.

Check carefully to see that each is actually quoting the same thing. Some
may be including material that the cheaper ones are not. Does this include
the duct work? Is the layout done?

If it truly is the same, the contractors references are all good, the
obvious is to go with the lowest bid. Price does not always indicate quality
work. At times, people look at how to do a particular job and think it is
more complex that it really is. Others just want to make a lot of money,
fast.

I'm in the middle of contracting a lot of renovation work building a
manufacturing plant in an existing building. The disparity in some prices
is alarming.

Concrete knee wall
7800
22,000

Pressure wash ceiling and walls
6800
120,000

In both cases, we used the lowest bidder and the work is perfectly
satisfactory.

"Zyp" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
"PaPaPeng" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:37:15 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was
for $4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get
the best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and
best butt crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual
favors other than bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people
have a different image of themselves and a different idea of just
how stupid they KNOW I am?

Steve



Go to a HVAC supplies shop where they have furnaces on display. Take
a good look at how they are constructed and read the installation
manual. Ask the sales counter guys all the questions you have and
you'll find that installing a furnace is not at all difficult. This
is especially if it is only to replace a current one at the same
location. The instruction manual gives all the information you need.
You can even install it yourself. But given your admission of lack
of knowledge of things mechanical pay a contractor to do it.

Get a price quote for the furnace. The basic high efficiency one I
had in mind costs CDN$1,300. A contractor gets a trade discount that
will be a profit to him. Figure out a reasonable the labor costs from
you knowledge of furnace hardware prices.

For a contractor to do more than is specified in the instruction
manual is highly unlikely. Ask what he is doing for the "more" and
you are already armed with the correct knowledge to figure out if he
is fibbing. For a contractor to do less will be a code violation and
highly dangerous for you. You have the correct knowledge from the
manual and from the shop that sells them to out him too.

Talk to the lowest bidder and ask him what his installation work will
involve. He's sounds like the most honest contractor.

This is for a heat pump. All three bids were names given to me by the
general contractor and said to be good craftsman. Just way different
in the price.

Steve

I thought you said - "I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same
unit. One was for $4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500."
Now it's a Heat Pump.

I would want to know who "sized" the equipment for your job and "how" did
they decide? Was it a mechanical engineer or did they use the "thumb
rule?" Will the ducts be installed above or below? Will they be using
endflex [spiral aluminum] or flex? Will they be using one manufactuer's
equipment or several?

I would ask the General Contractor what he thought? Also, do you "have"
to use "his" recommended contractors? Can you ask your friends,
neighbors, and relatives for their recommendations?



--
Zyp

yes

In article ,
"SteveB" wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve

I don't know, but the people who took this as a serious question instead
of the blatant poke in the ribs you intended it to be, should be crossed
off your bubba list immediately.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote


The biggest difference is what they think they can get from you.

Check carefully to see that each is actually quoting the same thing. Some
may be including material that the cheaper ones are not. Does this
include the duct work? Is the layout done?

If it truly is the same, the contractors references are all good, the
obvious is to go with the lowest bid. Price does not always indicate
quality work. At times, people look at how to do a particular job and
think it is more complex that it really is. Others just want to make a
lot of money, fast.

I'm in the middle of contracting a lot of renovation work building a
manufacturing plant in an existing building. The disparity in some prices
is alarming.

Concrete knee wall
7800
22,000

Pressure wash ceiling and walls
6800
120,000

In both cases, we used the lowest bidder and the work is perfectly
satisfactory.


I was jousting with some hvac person.

The point was that to which you have brought the discussion.

This ain't my first rodeo. I have a reasonable idea how much time it takes
to do a job, how many people, materials, machinery, etc, having had a
background in these areas. So, sometimes it is entertaining when some young
person tries to yank my chain and treat me like I don't know what's going
on. And then sometimes it is exasperating and offensive.

As you said, in both cases low bid got the job and got er done.

It's just all the dancing around that wears me out.

Steve

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best
butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other
than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid
they
KNOW I am?

Steve

This is a new install at the cabin? The "unit" may be the same, but how
about the ancillary system components like the air handler, ducting,
etc.? Those components could account for a decent chunk of the
difference.

All three bids for the same site. Done from the blueprints and partially
framed house.

Steve


Go with the cheapest, this will insure that you'll have a system that will
*not* maintain your comfort.

If one can do it for $2 grand less, ask yourself...

Why can he do it so cheaply?
Materials and installation is MONEY.
It takes materials to do a job CORRECTLY.
It takes longer to install things PROPERLY.

You can do it right or you can do it twice.
Twice isn't the cheapest route.

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"PaPaPeng" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:37:15 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best
butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid
they
KNOW I am?

Steve



Go to a HVAC supplies shop where they have furnaces on display. Take
a good look at how they are constructed and read the installation
manual. Ask the sales counter guys all the questions you have and
you'll find that installing a furnace is not at all difficult. This
is especially if it is only to replace a current one at the same
location. The instruction manual gives all the information you need.
You can even install it yourself. But given your admission of lack of
knowledge of things mechanical pay a contractor to do it.

Get a price quote for the furnace. The basic high efficiency one I
had in mind costs CDN$1,300. A contractor gets a trade discount that
will be a profit to him. Figure out a reasonable the labor costs from
you knowledge of furnace hardware prices.

For a contractor to do more than is specified in the instruction
manual is highly unlikely. Ask what he is doing for the "more" and
you are already armed with the correct knowledge to figure out if he
is fibbing. For a contractor to do less will be a code violation and
highly dangerous for you. You have the correct knowledge from the
manual and from the shop that sells them to out him too.

Talk to the lowest bidder and ask him what his installation work will
involve. He's sounds like the most honest contractor.

This is for a heat pump. All three bids were names given to me by the
general contractor and said to be good craftsman. Just way different in
the
price.

Steve


Referred by GC... LMAO
That's a sure way to find a hack!!

"SteveB" wrote in message
...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote


The biggest difference is what they think they can get from you.

Check carefully to see that each is actually quoting the same thing.
Some
may be including material that the cheaper ones are not. Does this
include the duct work? Is the layout done?

If it truly is the same, the contractors references are all good, the
obvious is to go with the lowest bid. Price does not always indicate
quality work. At times, people look at how to do a particular job and
think it is more complex that it really is. Others just want to make a
lot of money, fast.

I'm in the middle of contracting a lot of renovation work building a
manufacturing plant in an existing building. The disparity in some
prices
is alarming.

Concrete knee wall
7800
22,000

Pressure wash ceiling and walls
6800
120,000

In both cases, we used the lowest bidder and the work is perfectly
satisfactory.


I was jousting with some hvac person.

The point was that to which you have brought the discussion.

This ain't my first rodeo. I have a reasonable idea how much time it
takes
to do a job, how many people, materials, machinery, etc, having had a
background in these areas. So, sometimes it is entertaining when some
young
person tries to yank my chain and treat me like I don't know what's going
on. And then sometimes it is exasperating and offensive.

As you said, in both cases low bid got the job and got er done.

It's just all the dancing around that wears me out.

Steve


The only dancing being done is coming from the person wearing your shoes.

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid they
KNOW I am?

Steve


Steve,
In my profession (now retired) we have tried the "bid twice the price and
get only half the jobs" technique. If successful, you don't have to work as
hard and make just as much money. BTW, I am referring to professional
services, but, after all HVAC installation is also a service.

Ivan Vegvary

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:

Go with the cheapest, this will insure that you'll have a system that
will *not* maintain your comfort.

If one can do it for $2 grand less, ask yourself...

Why can he do it so cheaply?
Materials and installation is MONEY.
It takes materials to do a job CORRECTLY.
It takes longer to install things PROPERLY.

You can do it right or you can do it twice.
Twice isn't the cheapest route.

Alternatively, the guy who charges $2,000 more can more freely engage in his
profilgate lifestyle, secure in the knowledge that he has abused yet another
non-"professional."

SteveB wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid
they
KNOW I am?

Steve

This is a new install at the cabin? The "unit" may be the same, but how
about the ancillary system components like the air handler, ducting,
etc.? Those components could account for a decent chunk of the
difference.

All three bids for the same site. Done from the blueprints and partially
framed house.

Steve

That doesn't mean much. You indicate all three bids are for the
identical A/C "unit", which I believe would consist of the outdoor
condenser unit and the indoor evaporator "A" coil. I don't believe the
"unit" includes the indoor air handler that the "A" coil would be
installed in, nor the ducting, filters, thermostat, etc. and the three
bids could be specing different brands and qualities for those
components.

If you can get a full materials list to go with each bid then you can
see if they really are covering such a wide cost range for truly
identical equipment. Offhand I'd be most leery of the low bid since the
other two are relatively close together. Of course it could be that the
low bid happens to have materials on hand from a canceled order and just
wants to get rid of them. Could be that the higher bidders have all
company employees with benefits to cover, while the low bid is one guy
who hires a sub to install the ducting and has lower overhead. You
simply have to get really detailed specs to properly compare the bids.

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get
the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best
butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other
than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid
they
KNOW I am?

Steve

This is a new install at the cabin? The "unit" may be the same, but how
about the ancillary system components like the air handler, ducting,
etc.? Those components could account for a decent chunk of the
difference.

All three bids for the same site. Done from the blueprints and partially
framed house.

Steve

That doesn't mean much. You indicate all three bids are for the
identical A/C "unit", which I believe would consist of the outdoor
condenser unit and the indoor evaporator "A" coil. I don't believe the
"unit" includes the indoor air handler that the "A" coil would be
installed in, nor the ducting, filters, thermostat, etc. and the three
bids could be specing different brands and qualities for those
components.

If you can get a full materials list to go with each bid then you can
see if they really are covering such a wide cost range for truly
identical equipment. Offhand I'd be most leery of the low bid since the
other two are relatively close together. Of course it could be that the
low bid happens to have materials on hand from a canceled order and just
wants to get rid of them. Could be that the higher bidders have all
company employees with benefits to cover, while the low bid is one guy
who hires a sub to install the ducting and has lower overhead. You
simply have to get really detailed specs to properly compare the bids.

And when you've done that and feel that all three are going to do the same
work with the same equipment and achieve the same result, from there, it's
just how much profit margin they want.

I went through this recently on a metal building. The prices ran from $41
to $65 k for what I specified. Same thickness materials, same number doors,
windows, skylights, etc. A $24k spread is easily explainable. To me,
anyway.

I have decided to do the job myself.

Steve

SteveB wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:

I got three bids for an ac unit, all using the same unit. One was for
$4,100 and one was for $6,100 and one was for $7500.

Which one should I take? I'm so confused, and as a consumer, I'm so
stupid
I shouldn't have a driver's license.

I guess I had better take the highest bid as that will insure I get
the
best
job, right? Will the most expensive bubba have the biggest and best
butt
crack? Will I be expected to perform any other sexual favors other
than
bending over to pay the bill?

Any help would be better than being clueless.

Any hvac people out there?

What explains the big difference in price other than the people have a
different image of themselves and a different idea of just how stupid
they
KNOW I am?

Steve

This is a new install at the cabin? The "unit" may be the same, but how
about the ancillary system components like the air handler, ducting,
etc.? Those components could account for a decent chunk of the
difference.

All three bids for the same site. Done from the blueprints and partially
framed house.

Steve

That doesn't mean much. You indicate all three bids are for the
identical A/C "unit", which I believe would consist of the outdoor
condenser unit and the indoor evaporator "A" coil. I don't believe the
"unit" includes the indoor air handler that the "A" coil would be
installed in, nor the ducting, filters, thermostat, etc. and the three
bids could be specing different brands and qualities for those
components.

If you can get a full materials list to go with each bid then you can
see if they really are covering such a wide cost range for truly
identical equipment. Offhand I'd be most leery of the low bid since the
other two are relatively close together. Of course it could be that the
low bid happens to have materials on hand from a canceled order and just
wants to get rid of them. Could be that the higher bidders have all
company employees with benefits to cover, while the low bid is one guy
who hires a sub to install the ducting and has lower overhead. You
simply have to get really detailed specs to properly compare the bids.

And when you've done that and feel that all three are going to do the same
work with the same equipment and achieve the same result, from there, it's
just how much profit margin they want.

I went through this recently on a metal building. The prices ran from $41
to $65 k for what I specified. Same thickness materials, same number doors,
windows, skylights, etc. A $24k spread is easily explainable. To me,
anyway.

I have decided to do the job myself.

Pretty easy to DIY a (reasonable size) metal building yourself as it
doesn't require any exotic tools and the building kits are readily
available. On the HVAC end however it does require more specialized
tools and knowledge and for some parts licenses (refrigerant), and the
materials aren't as readily accessible for DIY installation.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:

Go with the cheapest, this will insure that you'll have a system that
will *not* maintain your comfort.

If one can do it for $2 grand less, ask yourself...

Why can he do it so cheaply?
Materials and installation is MONEY.
It takes materials to do a job CORRECTLY.
It takes longer to install things PROPERLY.

You can do it right or you can do it twice.
Twice isn't the cheapest route.

Alternatively, the guy who charges $2,000 more can more freely engage in
his
profilgate lifestyle, secure in the knowledge that he has abused yet
another
non-"professional."


I see you haven't found a clue yet...