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Default Elementary question on tiling a kitchen floor.

we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.

I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.

One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:

- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?

I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?

Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?

Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!

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I have a tile floor in my kitchen and it was only installed up to the
cupboards. I think that is somewhat standard as actually pulling up
the entire cupboard would be alot of work and money especially if you
hired it out. I had to replace my dishwasher also and it was not tiled
underneath . It did make it a pain in the ass to pull out , but how
many times would you actually have to pull out a dishwasher besides
replacing it, zero I hope. The worst part of dragging out the
dishwasher was lifting the top part of the cupboard to pull it out. It
took maybe 10 mins to do , no big deal.

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On Oct 24, 7:50 am, " wrote:
we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.

I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.

One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:

- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?

I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?

Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?

Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!


You can tile up to the cabinets but that leads to the dishwasher
problem and possibly difficulties with oven/counter height since you
would tile under the oven. This can easily be remedied by placing
plywood shims under the cabinets so they will be the same height as
the finished tile. Benefit of this method is that the floor or just a
broken tile can be more easily replaced.

Or...

You can tile under the cabinets and put them on top. You don't need
to go all of the way under and waste the tile, you could just run them
under the front & sides and shim up the back. Now you have no height
issues to worry about with the DW or oven (but if you shim up the
cabinets you wouldn't the other way either). Benefit of this method
is the cabinets could be changed without much worry of tilework being
needed.

So just like our previous Governor, you can go either way


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Will you be using build in cook top oven and Fridge? If not you will want to
tile under the areas that the stove and Fridge will go anyway, so why not do
under the dishwasher also? Otherwise use plywood to bring the floor hight up
to the tile level in the dishwasher alcove after the cabnets are in.


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we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.

I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.

One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:

- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?

I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?

Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?

Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!





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we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.

I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.

One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:

- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?

I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?

Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?

Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!


If you have already done the subfloor then your question is moot.


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wrote:
we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.


I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.


One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:


- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?


I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?


Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?


Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!


If you have already done the subfloor then your question is moot.- Hide quoted text -

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mmmmm - not really. The question becomes one of timing. Do we have
time to do the floor before the kitchen arrives? On the basis of what
I have seen so far and what my gut feel is - we are better off to just
tile the whoole thing. BUT if we do not have time, then we can simply
do (as suggested) under the cupboards and dishwasher with suitable
thickness plywood and do the tile later. It is good to have options
being an amateur.....


Thanks all!

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we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.


I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.


One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:


- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?


I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?


Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?


Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!


If you have already done the subfloor then your question is moot.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


mmmmm - not really. The question becomes one of timing. Do we have
time to do the floor before the kitchen arrives? On the basis of what
I have seen so far and what my gut feel is - we are better off to just
tile the whoole thing. BUT if we do not have time, then we can simply
do (as suggested) under the cupboards and dishwasher with suitable
thickness plywood and do the tile later. It is good to have options
being an amateur.....

Thanks all!


Oh by all means, if the cabinets and appliances are already removed,
just tile the whole floor, then you don't have to worry about height
or installation issues or changing your mind about the arrangement
someday. I would say the opportunity to "do it right" is worth
hustling to get the tile in before the cabinets arrive. -- H

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On Oct 24, 11:35 am, valvejob wrote:
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wrote:
we have pulled up the old floor, screwed down a robust new subfloor
out of plywood and are almost ready to tile.
I did some tiling years ago but not a kitchen.
One thing that puzzles me, but is probably a really dumb question is:
- do you tile the whole floor, or only up to where the cupboards are
going to be?
I have seen on the web where you only do up to the cupboard base, but
does that not make it a bear to get the dishwasher in and out because
of the lip between tile height and sub-floor?
Obviously it would be cheaper that way, and that means you would put
the floor in AFTER the cupboards as opposed to before as we were
intending to do?
Help please!? We need to figure out the sequence here soon.....!

If you have already done the subfloor then your question is moot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


mmmmm - not really. The question becomes one of timing. Do we have
time to do the floor before the kitchen arrives? On the basis of what
I have seen so far and what my gut feel is - we are better off to just
tile the whoole thing. BUT if we do not have time, then we can simply
do (as suggested) under the cupboards and dishwasher with suitable
thickness plywood and do the tile later. It is good to have options
being an amateur.....


Thanks all!


If you are talking about ceramic tile, I have to ask; why are you
installing the tile over plywood in the first place? It's not
recommended for the most part. Use a backerboard of some sort over the
plywood, such as Hardibacker or Wonderboard. May I ask how thick is
your sub-floor is right now?

The times I installed floor tile the cabinets were already installed but
I did tile into the dishwasher and free-standing range openings. I've
also used a 1/4" Hardiboard over a 3/4" plywood sub-floor in one
instance and have never had any cracks or problems - knock on wood :-)
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